Armenian Genocide Movie ‘The Promise’ (2017)

Apr 20, '17, 7:05 pm

Dwyer Regular Member Join Date: February 26, 2007 Posts: 1,361 Religion: Byzantine Catholic

Armenian Genocide Movie ‘The Promise’ (2017) Quote: ROME – “The Promise,” a movie about the Armenian genocide, screened at the Vatican on Tuesday with director Terry George, producer Eric Esrailian and some talent in attendance, in a clear sign of Catholic Church support ahead of the film’s upcoming U.S. release . . . The Vatican screening comes after Pope Francis last year made his first visit to Armenia. During the visit, he used the term “genocide” to describe the slaughter of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians by Ottoman Turks during World War I . . . The roughly $100-million film is considered a breakthrough after several attempts to make a Hollywood film about the Armenian genocide failed during past decades because of what director Terry George calls a “denialist lobby,” which these days is efficiently run by the government of Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, he claims. http://variety.com/2017/film/global/...an-1202022474/ The professional movie critics are already skewering the film with their computer keyboards; I haven't seen it yet but as with the recent film about the Ukrainian Genocide, "Bitter Harvest", I expect more comparisons to a David Lean film from 52 years ago or complaints that the budget used to make the movie wasn't as big as Spielberg's. "The Promise" opens tomorrow at theaters in the United States. __________________ "It's a free country; you can say whatever you want." --Old American Saying (U.S. Postal Service stamp-- from 1977 Americana series which extols freedom of speech and features a Speaker's Stand decorated with an American Flag shield.) Last edited by Dwyer; Apr 20, '17 at 7:24 pm.

#2   Apr 20, '17, 9:41 pm

7 Sorrows Forum Elder Greeter Prayer Warrior Forum Supporter Book Club Member Join Date: September 23, 2008 Posts: 43,920 Religion: Catholic

Re: Armenian Genocide Movie ‘The Promise’ (2017) From the previews I can see it will definitely not have wide appeal. Many people probably could not find Armenia on a map and don't know anything about the Armenian genocide. __________________ You created every part of me; you put me together in my mother's womb. (13) when I was growing there in secret, you knew that I was there----you saw me before I was born. (15) ~~~Psalm 139

#3   Apr 20, '17, 11:46 pm

SuperLuigi Forum Elder Join Date: August 28, 2012 Posts: 21,626 Religion: Catholic

Re: Armenian Genocide Movie ‘The Promise’ (2017) Quote: Originally Posted by 7 Sorrows From the previews I can see it will definitely not have wide appeal. Many people probably could not find Armenia on a map and don't know anything about the Armenian genocide. According to Gavin McInnes, it was "the young turks". __________________ "The left is no longer liberal"-----Dave Rubin "Social network censorship----SEE HOW FAR THEY GET WITH IT!!!!!" --------from Social Justice the Musical "...censorship begins with me, but will end with you". --Milo Yiannapolous Hate speech = free speech #1A #2A

#4   Apr 21, '17, 6:49 am

randomuser Regular Member Join Date: August 27, 2013 Posts: 2,204

Re: Armenian Genocide Movie ‘The Promise’ (2017) It got a very favorable review on deadline.com Also, all the proceeds (not just opening weekend but permanently) are being donated to charity. I don't know if that's for tax write-off reasons or altruistic reasons, but I think I'll check it out this weekend. It looks like a worthwhile movie. Most people can't find Syria on a map, either. Or Granada. Or Nicaragua. What does that have do with the movie's any good?

#5   Apr 21, '17, 11:46 am

7 Sorrows Forum Elder Greeter Prayer Warrior Forum Supporter Book Club Member Join Date: September 23, 2008 Posts: 43,920 Religion: Catholic

Re: Armenian Genocide Movie ‘The Promise’ (2017) Quote: Originally Posted by randomuser It got a very favorable review on deadline.com Also, all the proceeds (not just opening weekend but permanently) are being donated to charity. I don't know if that's for tax write-off reasons or altruistic reasons, but I think I'll check it out this weekend. It looks like a worthwhile movie. Most people can't find Syria on a map, either. Or Granada. Or Nicaragua. What does that have do with the movie's any good? I don't think I said it had anything to do with whether it is any good. I mentioned that in regards to who the movie might appeal to. I like history so I had thought I might see it. However, it will probably not have wide appeal because most people know very little about Armenia or the genocide. Christian Bale might draw some people to the movie because he is a good actor. That is interesting all proceeds are going to charity. __________________ You created every part of me; you put me together in my mother's womb. (13) when I was growing there in secret, you knew that I was there----you saw me before I was born. (15) ~~~Psalm 139

#6   Apr 23, '17, 1:33 pm

randomuser Regular Member Join Date: August 27, 2013 Posts: 2,204

Re: Armenian Genocide Movie ‘The Promise’ (2017) Excellent movie. Unlike "Allied" (which was basically "Casablanca" with f-bombs), "The Promise" really is an historical drama more on par with an "Exodus" (the Paul Newman movie) and a "Reds" (the Warren Beatty movie), which are two of my all-time favorites. So, naturally, I really liked "The Promise." A lot. And I hope it shows up on the year-end Best Of's. Unusually restrained for a PG-13 movie, the Catholic News Service gave it a mostly favorable review with "A-III -- Adults" classification: "Remarkable courage, perseverance and their unwavering Christian faith sustain the victims against all odds. "Our revenge will be to survive," Ana tells Michael. Despite the warnings below, given its potential to raise awareness of a historical tragedy -- one that the Turkish government, to this day, has never acknowledged -- "The Promise" is probably acceptable for mature adolescents." http://www.catholicnews.com/services...he-promise.cfm

#7   Apr 23, '17, 1:40 pm

7 Sorrows Forum Elder Greeter Prayer Warrior Forum Supporter Book Club Member Join Date: September 23, 2008 Posts: 43,920 Religion: Catholic

Re: Armenian Genocide Movie ‘The Promise’ (2017) Quote: Originally Posted by randomuser Excellent movie. Unlike "Allied" (which was basically "Casablanca" with f-bombs), "The Promise" really is an historical drama more on par with an "Exodus" (the Paul Newman movie) and a "Reds" (the Warren Beatty movie), which are two of my all-time favorites. So, naturally, I really liked "The Promise." A lot. And I hope it shows up on the year-end Best Of's. Unusually restrained for a PG-13 movie, the Catholic News Service gave it a mostly favorable review with "A-III -- Adults" classification: "Remarkable courage, perseverance and their unwavering Christian faith sustain the victims against all odds. "Our revenge will be to survive," Ana tells Michael. Despite the warnings below, given its potential to raise awareness of a historical tragedy -- one that the Turkish government, to this day, has never acknowledged -- "The Promise" is probably acceptable for mature adolescents." http://www.catholicnews.com/services...he-promise.cfm Has our government acknowledged the genocide? __________________ You created every part of me; you put me together in my mother's womb. (13) when I was growing there in secret, you knew that I was there----you saw me before I was born. (15) ~~~Psalm 139

#8   Apr 23, '17, 2:35 pm

randomuser Regular Member Join Date: August 27, 2013 Posts: 2,204

Re: Armenian Genocide Movie ‘The Promise’ (2017) Quote: Originally Posted by 7 Sorrows Has our government acknowledged the genocide? On behalf of the U.S. Senate: sadly, no. On behalf of individual states: currently, 45 of 50 (props to Wyoming, the latest) http://armenianweekly.com/2017/04/21...nian-genocide/ Here's the state by state breakdown: https://anca.org/us-genocide-recognition/

#9   Apr 23, '17, 2:40 pm

7 Sorrows Forum Elder Greeter Prayer Warrior Forum Supporter Book Club Member Join Date: September 23, 2008 Posts: 43,920 Religion: Catholic

Re: Armenian Genocide Movie ‘The Promise’ (2017) Quote: Originally Posted by randomuser On behalf of the U.S. Senate: sadly, no. On behalf of individual states: currently, 45 of 50 (props to Wyoming, the latest) http://armenianweekly.com/2017/04/21...nian-genocide/ Here's the state by state breakdown: https://anca.org/us-genocide-recognition/ So each state voted on it individually? __________________ You created every part of me; you put me together in my mother's womb. (13) when I was growing there in secret, you knew that I was there----you saw me before I was born. (15) ~~~Psalm 139