'The Hidden Rebellion' documentary is an antidote to the 'Silence' film

Jan 13, '17, 4:57 pm

Cid New Member   Join Date: December 3, 2006 Posts: 55 Religion: Catholic

'The Hidden Rebellion' documentary is an antidote to the 'Silence' film I have just watched a powerful Catholic documentary called The Hidden Rebellion on a little known part of the French Revolution when 150,000 priests and people were exterminated in the region of Vendee. Unlike the Silence film, which is really a stealth attack on the faith, there is no glorification of apostasy here but rather a well documented timeline for the emergence of the Black Beast in all its terror. The viewer cannot but see the disturbing parallels between that tragic time and the world we are living in today where masonry has its paw marks all over the place. A great quote from one of the academic interviewees is: "Intellectual terrorism - it's when intellectuals take control and decide they want reality to conform to them instead of them trying to understand what reality is." The filmmaker invested his own money in this documentary so I would encourage everyone to support it. https://screeningnow.com/public/prod...b2494af47701de __________________ Mary, royal highway to the heart of Jesus, pray for me. .

#2   Jan 13, '17, 7:16 pm

7 Sorrows Forum Elder Greeter Prayer Warrior Forum Supporter Book Club Member   Join Date: September 23, 2008 Posts: 43,903 Religion: Catholic

Re: 'The Hidden Rebellion' documentary is an antidote to the 'Silence' film Sounds good. __________________ You created every part of me; you put me together in my mother's womb. (13) when I was growing there in secret, you knew that I was there----you saw me before I was born. (15) ~~~Psalm 139

#3   Jan 13, '17, 10:47 pm

Milestone Junior Member   Join Date: August 29, 2016 Posts: 124 Religion: Protestant at the moment

Re: 'The Hidden Rebellion' documentary is an antidote to the 'Silence' film Haven't watched Silence, but I've read the novel. It was written by a Catholic, and the apostasy of Rodriguez wasn't directly glorified or encouraged by the author. In fact, there's reason to believe the voice Rodriguez heard wasn't that of Jesus, but his own voice, or that of the devil. Regardless, I don't see it as an attack. Maybe the movie is different, though.

#4   Jan 14, '17, 3:13 am

zaida Junior Member   Join Date: December 8, 2011 Posts: 151 Religion: Roman Catholic

Re: 'The Hidden Rebellion' documentary is an antidote to the 'Silence' film Loved SILENCE, think it was a thoroughly Catholic film, and doesn't need an antidote! Saying that - the hidden rebellion sounds very interesting....

#5   Jan 14, '17, 3:21 am

7 Sorrows Forum Elder Greeter Prayer Warrior Forum Supporter Book Club Member   Join Date: September 23, 2008 Posts: 43,903 Religion: Catholic

Re: 'The Hidden Rebellion' documentary is an antidote to the 'Silence' film Silence was very good. I saw it yesterday. __________________ You created every part of me; you put me together in my mother's womb. (13) when I was growing there in secret, you knew that I was there----you saw me before I was born. (15) ~~~Psalm 139

#6   Jan 14, '17, 3:26 am

7 Sorrows Forum Elder Greeter Prayer Warrior Forum Supporter Book Club Member   Join Date: September 23, 2008 Posts: 43,903 Religion: Catholic

Re: 'The Hidden Rebellion' documentary is an antidote to the 'Silence' film Quote: Originally Posted by Milestone Haven't watched Silence, but I've read the novel. It was written by a Catholic, and the apostasy of Rodriguez wasn't directly glorified or encouraged by the author. In fact, there's reason to believe the voice Rodriguez heard wasn't that of Jesus, but his own voice, or that of the devil. Regardless, I don't see it as an attack. Maybe the movie is different, though. Scorcese said he tried to follow the book. The author is a Japanese Catholic. I didn't see the movie as an attack either. You should see the movie if you liked the book. __________________ You created every part of me; you put me together in my mother's womb. (13) when I was growing there in secret, you knew that I was there----you saw me before I was born. (15) ~~~Psalm 139

#7   Jan 14, '17, 5:36 am

randomuser Regular Member   Join Date: August 27, 2013 Posts: 2,200

Re: 'The Hidden Rebellion' documentary is an antidote to the 'Silence' film Quote: Originally Posted by Cid Unlike the Silence film, which is really a stealth attack on the faith... Is that your opinion, or do you have evidence to substantiate that "Silence" is a "stealth attack on the faith"? What's all we're hearing lately? Christians are under attack -- Christians are being persecuted -- someone makes a movie about that very subject, literally, and it gets criticized. I don't get it. The fact of the matter is, Scorcese premiered "Silence" at the Vatican -- here's corroborating source of that: https://cruxnow.com/vatican/2016/11/...ening-silence/ Additionally, it seems a little odd that a "stealth attack on the faith" is being ignored by all the major awards people in Hollywood -- that's right: "Silence" has *not* gotten any nominations from the PGA, the DGA, the SAG, etc. -- all those different branches of Oscar voters, so it's pretty doubtful it will get any Oscar nominations, either, when those are announced. Would this be the first time that such a high-profile "anti-Christian" movie is ignored by all the awards people in Hollywood?

#8   Jan 14, '17, 6:53 am

Cid New Member   Join Date: December 3, 2006 Posts: 55 Religion: Catholic

Re: 'The Hidden Rebellion' documentary is an antidote to the 'Silence' film Quote: Originally Posted by zaida Loved SILENCE, think it was a thoroughly Catholic film, and doesn't need an antidote! Saying that - the hidden rebellion sounds very interesting.... I hope you are right about Silence but I doubt it. Advanced story writing technics these days are so sophisticated and hidden like a snake going for its prey. We the viewers are not aware of the organic way in which the story structure is constructed and set up to interact with our emotions and subconscious in a way that can be manipulative or even subversive. Here is a great story guru and note Worksheet 4 which deals with the moral arc: http://truby.com/using-the-anatomy-o...te-your-novel/ I mean just look at how the gay lifestyle has become so mainstream! We the viewers have been receiving messages for years beneath the story structures in the TV bubble. Today everyone owns those same messages as their own. Everyone, that is, except for religious nuts like you and me. People like us will not allow our morality to be dictated by our emotions or whatever else makes us feel good. We rely on 'reason' in the truest sense of the word, as revealed by God through his Son, Jesus. Silence may be a good film on many different levels but for me it is a film that is dishonest in portraying the heroism of both the priests and people of Japan and for that reason it is a dangerous snake that might just need some short sharp pressure from a well heeled size 8 shoe. I am glad that you are interested in The Hidden Rebellion __________________ Mary, royal highway to the heart of Jesus, pray for me. .

#9   Jan 14, '17, 7:14 am

Cid New Member   Join Date: December 3, 2006 Posts: 55 Religion: Catholic

Re: 'The Hidden Rebellion' documentary is an antidote to the 'Silence' film Quote: Originally Posted by randomuser Is that your opinion, or do you have evidence to substantiate that "Silence" is a "stealth attack on the faith"? Thanks for your reply and I ask you to follow this link http://truby.com/using-the-anatomy-o...te-your-novel/ and refer to Worksheet 4 to see how the story structure of modern works have evolved to such an extent that these techniques are being used to advance the moral view of the author in such a hidden and subtle way as to be undetected by most viewers or readers. This need not necessarily be a bad thing but it is something that we need to be aware of when going to see a film like Silence where it is obvious that the filmmaker and author's views towards the Catholic faith are at best ambiguous. We have none of that ambiguity in the documentary The Hidden Rebellion in which the forces of the French Revolution are unleashed without restraint against families, communities and faith in one little region of France where they sacrifice everything so as to be faithful to Christ and his Church. __________________ Mary, royal highway to the heart of Jesus, pray for me. .

#10   Jan 14, '17, 12:50 pm

Dwyer Regular Member   Join Date: February 26, 2007 Posts: 1,361 Religion: Byzantine Catholic

Re: 'The Hidden Rebellion' documentary is an antidote to the 'Silence' film I'd recommend instead of paying $ for a movie ticket to see Silence which is an adaptation of a work of fiction in order to get your Catholic History from Hollywood watch instead the the documentary 'Let Me Walk This Path' which follows the history of Christianity in Japan "from the arrival of St. Francis Xavier and his missionaries in 1549 to the major beatification ceremony of 188 Japanese martyrs in 2008" and was shown on EWTN Television. __________________ "It's a free country; you can say whatever you want." --Old American Saying (U.S. Postal Service stamp-- from 1977 Americana series which extols freedom of speech and features a Speaker's Stand decorated with an American Flag shield.)

#11   Jan 14, '17, 1:00 pm

7 Sorrows Forum Elder Greeter Prayer Warrior Forum Supporter Book Club Member   Join Date: September 23, 2008 Posts: 43,903 Religion: Catholic

Re: 'The Hidden Rebellion' documentary is an antidote to the 'Silence' film Quote: Originally Posted by Dwyer I'd recommend instead of paying $ for a movie ticket to see Silence which is an adaptation of a work of fiction in order to get your Catholic History from Hollywood watch instead the the documentary 'Let Me Walk This Path' which follows the history of Christianity in Japan "from the arrival of St. Francis Xavier and his missionaries in 1549 to the major beatification ceremony of 188 Japanese martyrs in 2008" and was shown on EWTN Television. Thanks! I will look for that documentary. In the meantime, this was the first movie in a long time I didn't feel like I wasted my money. __________________ You created every part of me; you put me together in my mother's womb. (13) when I was growing there in secret, you knew that I was there----you saw me before I was born. (15) ~~~Psalm 139