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This is what happens when we elect a person with no core principles, no sense of dignity or shame, and whose primary purpose is self-aggrandizement.
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Well in a recent thread, discussing Trump's recent vile, low blow Tweets against certain CNN personalities, the "charitable" Catholics here at Republican Answers Forums hooted and cheered. Eye for an eye, kick them while they're on the ground... that's what a lot of posters were advocating.

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Nothing happened! Chill out. It's just a tweet.
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Well in a recent thread, discussing Trump's recent vile, low blow Tweets against certain CNN personalities, the "charitable" Catholics here at Republican Answers Forums hooted and cheered. Eye for an eye, kick them while they're on the ground... that's what a lot of posters were advocating.
Yes, it seems that some here are proverbially drinking the kool-aid in following him.
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This is what happens when we elect a person with no core principles, no sense of dignity or shame, and whose primary purpose is self-aggrandizement.
If I were Trump, I would feel like punching those who spread fake scandalized news about me.

Now what principles are you talking about?

What sense of dignity or shame?

Or self-aggrandizement?
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If I were Trump, I would feel like punching those who spread fake scandalized news about me.
Perhaps. But if you were an adult, you would instead act responsibly and lead in a way that promotes proper behavior.
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If I were Trump, I would feel like punching those who spread fake scandalized news about me.
Did Jesus feel like punching those who brutalized and killed him? Did he voice anything indicating that? Did Obama say anything indicating that he felt that way, despite the fact that he has been called a terrorist, all the racist things people have said of him and his wife and family, and that his religion and nationality and nationality have been questioned? If the aforementioned persons did not, then why can't Trump handle the pressure and people simply disagreeing with him and pointing out facts like every other politician has?
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Nothing happened! Chill out. It's just a tweet.
I don't believe that you even believe what you're saying any more.

If you can honestly look at that and say, "Yup, that's the level of maturity and decorum I expect from the leader of the United States" then you are so far down the rabbit hole that no discussion is going to be fruitful.
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This is what happens when we elect a person with no core principles, no sense of dignity or shame, and whose primary purpose is self-aggrandizement.
Nope, this is what happens when someone fights back against a bully who has ran roughshod over their political opponents for decades without any pushback whatsoever. Suck it up, haters; President Trump has the media's number, and they absolutely know it. That's why they've had an eight-month-long hissy fit since he won. They are powerless against him. I, for one, absolutely love it and I hope he continues for the next seven and a half years.
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People are getting there heads chopped off by ISIS in the Philippines, a tense situation is brewing at sea with China, Illinois is on the verge of financhial collapse. and this is news ! Who cares. It gave me a laugh.
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Well in a recent thread, discussing Trump's recent vile, low blow Tweets against certain CNN personalities, the "charitable" Catholics here at Republican Answers Forums hooted and cheered. Eye for an eye, kick them while they're on the ground... that's what a lot of posters were advocating.
No, it's called 'standing up for yourself' and take the fight right to their own level. Marquis of Queensbury rules no longer apply when your opponent goes for the tenderloins. At that point, the gloves come off, and you put the opponent down for the count by whatever means necessary.

Nobody on the left seemed to complain when the media insulted Trump and his family on a daily basis. Now all of a sudden people are calling for dignity and decorum? Tell that to the people advocating that Barron Trump be killed while he's still young and can't do any harm to the country. Tell that to the people who denigrate Melania for things she did a couple of decades ago before she was even dating Donald Trump. Tell that to the people who openly cheered on the attempted assassination of members of the Republican Congress at a baseball practice. The left has been getting away with dirty fighting for years without any response from the 'dignified, gentlemanly' GOP. Well, we the voters made it quite clear in November: No. More. Don't like it? Tell your own side to dial it back. Until then, it's open season, and no more punches will be pulled.
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Nope, this is what happens when someone fights back against a bully ...
Posts a tweet. Ooooh.

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I, for one, absolutely love it and I hope he continues for the next seven and a half years.
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People are getting there heads chopped off by ISIS in the Philippines, a tense situation is brewing at sea with China, Illinois is on the verge of financhial collapse. and this is news ! Who cares. It gave me a laugh.
That is what your president wants to communicate to the world at this time.
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No, it's called 'standing up for yourself' and take the fight right to their own level. Marquis of Queensbury rules no longer apply when your opponent goes for the tenderloins. At that point, the gloves come off, and you put the opponent down for the count by whatever means necessary.

Nobody on the left seemed to complain when the media insulted Trump and his family on a daily basis. Now all of a sudden people are calling for dignity and decorum? Tell that to the people advocating that Barron Trump be killed while he's still young and can't do any harm to the country. Tell that to the people who denigrate Melania for things she did a couple of decades ago before she was even dating Donald Trump. Tell that to the people who openly cheered on the attempted assassination of members of the Republican Congress at a baseball practice. The left has been getting away with dirty fighting for years without any response from the 'dignified, gentlemanly' GOP. Well, we the voters made it quite clear in November: No. More. Don't like it? Tell your own side to dial it back. Until then, it's open season, and no more punches will be pulled.
Personally, I believe that each side should treat the other with dignity. If you feel this way about Trump, what did you say when people placed nooses in trees after Obama was elected? What did you have to say when people called Obama a terrorist and slandered him? What did you say after people called Michelle Obama an ape and worse names solely for wearing a dress that exposed her arms?
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Perhaps. But if you were an adult, you would instead act responsibly and lead in a way that promotes proper behavior.
That's exactly what Bush 43, McCain and Romney did. And guess what? They were losers. Yes, even Bush, despite his two wins, which were far narrower than they should have been considering the pathetic opponents he had. Leo Durocher said it best: Nice guys finish last. So Trump isn't playing nice? Too bad. Where was the indignity when a president weaponized the IRS against his political opponents? Where was the shock and dismay when a presidential candidate called her opponent's supporters 'deplorable' and 'irredeemable'? Where was the 'tsk-tsk' when House and Senate Democrats accused their colleagues across the aisle of wanting to murder children, seniors and poor people? Where were the cries of 'Shame!' when the media savaged Sarah Palin and sent 'reporters' to Alaska to root through her garbage?

None of you have the right to say a word about what Donald Trump does, because it was all fine and dandy when your own side was doing it. Does Trump hit back hard? Darn right he does, and good for him. Many on the right (and by many, I mean the vast majority) are sick and tired of watching our so-called leaders roll over to expose their bellies in complete submission. The Democrats have made it clear: We, the ordinary working people, are no longer their base; we are their enemies, and they have no interest in compromise or debate. Fine. You reap what you sow; welcome to the harvest.
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Nope, this is what happens when someone fights back against a bully who has ran roughshod over their political opponents for decades without any pushback whatsoever. Suck it up, haters; President Trump has the media's number, and they absolutely know it. That's why they've had an eight-month-long hissy fit since he won. They are powerless against him. I, for one, absolutely love it and I hope he continues for the next seven and a half years.
So you think Trump ISN'T a bully, but those who he attacks in his tweets ARE bullies? Um, okay.
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Did Jesus feel like punching those who brutalized and killed him? Did he voice anything indicating that? Did Obama say anything indicating that he felt that way, despite the fact that he has been called a terrorist, all the racist things people have said of him and his wife and family, and that his religion and nationality and nationality have been questioned? If the aforementioned persons did not, then why can't Trump handle the pressure and people simply disagreeing with him and pointing out facts like every other politician has?
Who says he can't handle the pressure? He's handling it just fine; he's obviously having a grand old time turning the media inside out and reducing them to squalling infants. Good for him; it's long, long overdue. The pompous 'guardians of society' have had it coming for ages.

Obama said far, far worse things about the American people in his tenure; perhaps you forgot them. But he certainly was no dignitarian, no gracious winner. He was a petty, worthless sack of drug-addled insecurities who didn't have the talent to run a lemonade stand, let along a country.
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Posts a tweet. Ooooh.

DId you ever stop to consider the roots of your "trouble".
What trouble? I'm doing just fine, and so is the President. Who, by the way, isn't named Hillary Clinton. Isn't it wonderful? It's not just springtime or morning; this is even better.
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No, it's called 'standing up for yourself' and take the fight right to their own level. Marquis of Queensbury rules no longer apply when your opponent goes for the tenderloins. At that point, the gloves come off, and you put the opponent down for the count by whatever means necessary.

Nobody on the left seemed to complain when the media insulted Trump and his family on a daily basis. Now all of a sudden people are calling for dignity and decorum? Tell that to the people advocating that Barron Trump be killed while he's still young and can't do any harm to the country. Tell that to the people who denigrate Melania for things she did a couple of decades ago before she was even dating Donald Trump. Tell that to the people who openly cheered on the attempted assassination of members of the Republican Congress at a baseball practice. The left has been getting away with dirty fighting for years without any response from the 'dignified, gentlemanly' GOP. Well, we the voters made it quite clear in November: No. More. Don't like it? Tell your own side to dial it back. Until then, it's open season, and no more punches will be pulled.
Yes !!!

Like the bully they were, when the bullied stands up and take them on, what did they do? Running home to mama and crying that they got punched in the faces.

I can't think of nothing else at this junction but am amazed that Trump haters should feel it is alright that he should be bullied, lied at and hated, just because he won the election.
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Personally, I believe that each side should treat the other with dignity. If you feel this way about Trump, what did you say when people placed nooses in trees after Obama was elected? What did you have to say when people called Obama a terrorist and slandered him? What did you say after people called Michelle Obama an ape and worse names solely for wearing a dress that exposed her arms?
I never saw a single noose in a tree. I am aware that there were some, but you'll notice how that disappeared in a serious hurry, right? People with sense took care of that. As for slandering Obama, it's difficult to do that considering that he is an admitted drug-user, a Muslim apologist, a full-blown communist, hates America and the American people, lied on a daily basis, believed there were 57 states, openly stated he wanted to redistribute American wealth, both at home and abroad, and smuggled guns into Mexico just to push a gun-control agenda, only to see those guns used to murder American border guards.

I find Michelle Obama stunningly unattractive; her skin color has nothing to do with it, only her hideous personality.
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So you think Trump ISN'T a bully, but those who he attacks in his tweets ARE bullies? Um, okay.
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Think of the current political climate as a school yard. The Democrat party is the school bully. Always picking on everyone for little to no reason except to make himself feel good. The Republican party is the bulk of the student population. They all hate the bully, but they’re too afraid to stand up to him. The teachers are the Mainstream Media. They love the bully because the bully sucks up to them. He’s always respectful to the teachers, and the teachers always take his side.

Then along comes Donald Trump. He’s the new kid, fresh from another school. Donald sees the bully picking on the other kids constantly. He sees the teachers defend the bully and punish the kids that get picked on. Donald doesn’t know why this happens. He hasn’t learned the rules of this new school yet. Donald doesn’t know that he’s supposed to be meek and quiet towards the bully.

Donald quickly becomes the bully’s new target. The bully knows Donald doesn’t understand the rules around here. That’s okay, though, because the bully is only too happy to teach Donald the ways of the world. The bully picks on Donald every single day. He picks on Donald’s friends. He picks on Donald’s family. The bully roughs Donald up. At the end of the day it’s the bully that rules the roost here at this school. The bully must teach Donald the lesson.

One day, though, Donald decides he’s had quite enough. One day while the bully is dancing around Donald laughing at him, Donald hauls off and punches the bully square in the face. The bully falls to the ground, dazed for a few seconds. All of the other kids fall silent. Donald doesn’t say a word. He simply stands over the bully, fists clenched, waiting for him to get back up. The bully stares in stunned silence at Donald. No one has ever hit the bully back before. That won’t do. The bully can’t be seen as weak. The bully gets back up, and takes a single step towards Donald. Donald, without saying a word, punches the bully again, this time square in the nose. Some of the other students gasp as an audible CRACK is heard. The bully crumples to the ground. Blood streams from his broken nose. The bully looks at Donald looming over him, still silent. The bully’s lip starts to quiver. Tears stream from his eyes. The bully jumps up and runs from Donald, sobbing and crying for his mommy. Most of the other kids cheer Donald. He has broken the bully’s iron grip on the school yard.
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Who says he can't handle the pressure? He's handling it just fine; he's obviously having a grand old time turning the media inside out and reducing them to squalling infants. Good for him; it's long, long overdue. The pompous 'guardians of society' have had it coming for ages.

Obama said far, far worse things about the American people in his tenure; perhaps you forgot them. But he certainly was no dignitarian, no gracious winner. He was a petty, worthless sack of drug-addled insecurities who didn't have the talent to run a lemonade stand, let along a country.
If he's having a "grand old time", then he wouldn't be threatening certain individuals using the National Enquirer. Instead, he tweets threateningly at people who attempt to expose him. Please share with us what Obama has said. Drug-addled, really?? And what of Jesus and other politicians? Way to ignore that one.
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The presidency of The US has become a reality show we can't turn off. Sad!
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If he's having a "grand old time", then he wouldn't be threatening certain individuals using the National Enquirer. Instead, he tweets threateningly at people who attempt to expose him. Please share with us what Obama has said. Drug-addled, really?? And what of Jesus and other politicians? Way to ignore that one.
Oh, you didn't read his book either? I wonder who was buying up all those copies.

What about Jesus and other politicians? If Hillary Clinton had won, mentioning Jesus would have become illegal eventually. The Democrats are the party that booed God and demanded that He be removed from the party platform. The Democrats are the ones who worship at the altar of the abortion table. The Democrats have nothing to do with Jesus, and want nothing to do with Him.

Trump didn't win because of religion; he won because of economics. Let him save the country from the disaster of the last three decades, then worry about a moral rejuvenation. One step at a time, please.
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He became President of the United States in this moment
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Marquis of Queensbury rules no longer apply when your opponent goes for the tenderloins. At that point, the gloves come off, and you put the opponent down for the count by whatever means necessary.
No, at that point the referee stops the fight. If you're going to use a metaphor you gotta have it make sense.

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Tell that to the people who denigrate Melania for things she did a couple of decades ago before she was even dating Donald Trump.
I don't believe Melania should be deported for the immigration laws she violated, I'm mostly just curious why people who hate illegal immigrants so much seem to love Melania.
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I really am disgusted at reading some of the posts on this thread. This man has his hands on the nuclear football for heavens sake. If he can't take some bad press without resorting to childlike behavior, how is he going to deal with the the likes of Putin and North Korea?
I honestly believe there is something seriously wrong with Trump. His behavior seems to getting worse by the day. I used to pray that he would change and act presidential, but it's obvious he has no intention of doing that. He's an embarrassment and I'm ashamed that our country elected such a man!
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All I can say, is that at this point, I actually think Trump was right when he claimed that he could shoot someone and still not lose his supporters.
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The presidency of The US has become a reality show we can't turn off. Sad!
My thought exactly. It's really getting sickening. And that's exactly what it is. No dignity at all anymore, from either side, but really, the real bigotry is coming from those who love to cry it. It's because, I personally believe, we are a spoiled nation that overindulges in every vile deadly sin there is. What do you get when that happens? Craziness, insanity, chaos. When there is no right or wrong, there is no rhyme nor reason. When anyone can just go around and do whatever they feel like without any responsibilities, this is what you get. The blind leading the blind. And then I look at other countries, like the places Mother Teresa visited. I look at all of those poor, starving children, women, and families. Over there, they have REAL problems to deal with, not petty stupidities like we have over here. Over here, we don't know that a fetus is a human being with a right to live. Over here, we can be five thousand different genders, or no gender at all, if you can figure how that's supposed to work. Over here, we have to be politically "correct" in order to be "popular" or else you're a demon, hateful, intolerant, bigoted, homophobic, and blah, blah, blah. Don't really care. No. I don't support abortion, I reject it is a horrible violence against an innocent child, and I believe marriage is between one man, one woman. How awful to have such values, right? I know. Just awful.
In those Mother Teresa countries, those poor families at least seem to have morals and values and a sense of what is truly important in life. Over here, we just look like spoiled brats with all of our hatred, hypocrisy, and bigotry. Bigotry against what is right and moral. I'm angrier about all of this than I can even express, and I only see it as getting worse. We're becoming completely without any sense of reality, everything has to be "fake" and yet it's presented as "reality," and it's just craziness, ALL of it. We're getting further and further away from any sense of what is even real, let alone right, and I think we're just too far gone. We're an eroded society that should be destroyed. We're already an extremely Godless nation, and it definitely shows. God said He will turn His back on a nation that rejects Him, and I believe that is exactly what has happened. And a nation without Him seems to be what we want, prefer, and have sought. Well, this is the result, and I see no end in sight. Our nation does not deserve His mercy one bit.
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Oh, what perfect timing. I wish I could take credit for this one, but it's not mine. Full kudos to Radius at the Sparta Report for this perfect take on exactly that topic:

https://www.spartareport.com/2017/07...-donald-trump/
I wouldn't want to take credit for that drivel either.
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I really am disgusted at reading some of the posts on this thread. This man has his hands on the nuclear football for heavens sake. If he can't take some bad press without resorting to childlike behavior, how is he going to deal with the the likes of Putin and North Korea?
I honestly believe there is something seriously wrong with Trump. His behavior seems to getting worse by the day. I used to pray that he would change and act presidential, but it's obvious he has no intention of doing that. He's an embarrassment and I'm ashamed that our country elected such a man!
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How is he going to deal with Putin ? Very cordially I hope.
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He's already shown the world how he deals with Putin and North Korea. He's done very well but for fake news jokester journalists, he is allowed to try something unconventional. No harm done except to the feelings of some.
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Yes !!!

I can't think of nothing else at this junction but am amazed that Trump haters should feel it is alright that he should be bullied, lied at and hated, just because he won the election.
This statement is full of erroneous assumptions and generalizations. People don't hate him for winning the election, they're opposed to the fact that his policies will leave the poor and disabled disadvantaged and without access to food or healthcare, and probably dead if they have any serious medical emergencies. At least for those opposed to Obamacare, all they had to complain about was the fact that it cost extra money but they still had access to healthcare. People love scapegoating the poor and defenseless instead of examining other extraneous taxpayer costs.

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I have no issues with him going after the media for slander, just as long as he stops short of personal insults.

This tweet is pretty light, so I don't mind it much.
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The tweet was funny.
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Disrespecting the CNN logo? This is the last straw!
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My thought exactly. It's really getting sickening. And that's exactly what it is. No dignity at all anymore, from either side, but really, the real bigotry is coming from those who love to cry it. It's because, I personally believe, we are a spoiled nation that overindulges in every vile deadly sin there is. What do you get when that happens? Craziness, insanity, chaos. When there is no right or wrong, there is no rhyme nor reason. When anyone can just go around and do whatever they feel like without any responsibilities, this is what you get. The blind leading the blind. And then I look at other countries, like the places Mother Teresa visited. I look at all of those poor, starving children, women, and families. Over there, they have REAL problems to deal with, not petty stupidities like we have over here. Over here, we don't know that a fetus is a human being with a right to live. Over here, we can be five thousand different genders, or no gender at all, if you can figure how that's supposed to work. Over here, we have to be politically "correct" in order to be "popular" or else you're a demon, hateful, intolerant, bigoted, homophobic, and blah, blah, blah. Don't really care. No. I don't support abortion, I reject it is a horrible violence against an innocent child, and I believe marriage is between one man, one woman. How awful to have such values, right? I know. Just awful.
In those Mother Teresa countries, those poor families at least seem to have morals and values and a sense of what is truly important in life. Over here, we just look like spoiled brats with all of our hatred, hypocrisy, and bigotry. Bigotry against what is right and moral. I'm angrier about all of this than I can even express, and I only see it as getting worse. We're becoming completely without any sense of reality, everything has to be "fake" and yet it's presented as "reality," and it's just craziness, ALL of it. We're getting further and further away from any sense of what is even real, let alone right, and I think we're just too far gone. We're an eroded society that should be destroyed. We're already an extremely Godless nation, and it definitely shows. God said He will turn His back on a nation that rejects Him, and I believe that is exactly what has happened. And a nation without Him seems to be what we want, prefer, and have sought. Well, this is the result, and I see no end in sight. Our nation does not deserve His mercy one bit.
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If you want to criticize Trump for a WWE video with a staged punch out of an superimposed cartoon head of CNN, go ahead, but when the main opposition political party is led by the likes of Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Sanders who strongly support the intrinsically evil public policy of abortion, which rips apart and kills innocent unborn children, with approximately 926,200 abortions having been performed in 2014 alone, I don't think a reasonable person can get too upset about President Trump's Twitter Tweet antics.
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If you want to criticize Trump for a WWE video with a staged punch out of an superimposed cartoon head of CNN, go ahead ...
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I don't believe that you even believe what you're saying any more.

If you can honestly look at that and say, "Yup, that's the level of maturity and decorum I expect from the leader of the United States" then you are so far down the rabbit hole that no discussion is going to be fruitful.
I would not say that was the level of decorum I expect or desire in a President - but really - we have had so much worse from the Oval Office and past Presidents - that Tweet is nothing.

And its not the Trumpers looking foolish here - its the Democrats and the Liberal Hate and Spin Against Trump Media ...

I want a President who does not use his position to engage in sex with interns in the Oval Office ..

I want Senators who don't engage in drunken sex orgies with young women and then get behind the wheel of a car - crash and kill the young woman - failing to seek help for here or even report the accident until the next day ..

Both that President and that Senator are two of the most respected and venerated politicians .... but I find their behavior despicable and both cases involved the incumbent committing crimes ...

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This story is hours old already. I saw it early this morning. It was not just tweeted.

I am sure before the week is over he will have done something else that will have
people upset all over again.
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I would not say that was the level of decorum I expect or desire in a President - but really - we have had so much worse from the Oval Office and past Presidents - that Tweet is nothing.

And its not the Trumpers looking foolish here - its the Democrats and the Liberal Hate and Spin Against Trump Media ...

I want a President who does not use his position to engage in sex with interns in the Oval Office ..

I want Senators who don't engage in drunken sex orgies with young women and then get behind the wheel of a car - crash and kill the young woman - failing to seek help for here or even report the accident until the next day ..

Both that President and that Senator are two of the most respected and venerated politicians .... but I find their behavior despicable and both cases involved the incumbent committing crimes ...

But a Tweet - now thats really important
Drunken orgy? How made up is that?

The key point. All fall short. But with Trump, we do not see a contrite acknowledgment of shortcoming - even a phony one. He personally publicizes his missing the mark with pride. Please don't make excuses, please don't pretend that this is note wholly new territory.
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Well in a recent thread, discussing Trump's recent vile, low blow Tweets against certain CNN personalities, the "charitable" Catholics here at Republican Answers Forums hooted and cheered. Eye for an eye, kick them while they're on the ground... that's what a lot of posters were advocating.
Amen to that. One of the best posts I've seen on here. The posts joining in Trump's mocking of plastic surgery and 'low IQ' people was embarrassing.

Cause, you know, IQ and eugenics are super Catholic. Where is Leon Bloy when you need him?
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We're an eroded society that should be destroyed.

We're already an extremely Godless nation, and it definitely shows. God said He will turn His back on a nation that rejects Him, and I believe that is exactly what has happened. And a nation without Him seems to be what we want, prefer, and have sought. Well, this is the result, and I see no end in sight. Our nation does not deserve His mercy one bit.
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I would not say that was the level of decorum I expect or desire in a President - but really - we have had so much worse from the Oval Office and past Presidents - that Tweet is nothing.

And its not the Trumpers looking foolish here - its the Democrats and the Liberal Hate and Spin Against Trump Media ...

I want a President who does not use his position to engage in sex with interns in the Oval Office ..

I want Senators who don't engage in drunken sex orgies with young women and then get behind the wheel of a car - crash and kill the young woman - failing to seek help for here or even report the accident until the next day ..

Both that President and that Senator are two of the most respected and venerated politicians .... but I find their behavior despicable and both cases involved the incumbent committing crimes ...

But a Tweet - now thats really important
How do you feel about a president who likes to watch underage beauty pageant contestants in their dressing room?
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How is he going to deal with Putin ? Very cordially I hope.
Putin is cool and smart and evil. I think he canl manipulate Trump any way he wants. I hope I am wrong,
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Drunken orgy? How made up is that?

The key point. All fall short. But with Trump, we do not see a contrite acknowledgment of shortcoming - even a phony one. He personally publicizes his missing the mark with pride. Please don't make excuses, please don't pretend that this is note wholly new territory.
And Kennedy and Clinton were not contrite or apologetic ... get real ... Kennedy went on a sex party and while driving drunk the woman he was with was killed ... those are facts .. he never lost an election or paid any political price really .. The Lion of the Senate

Clinton is still a power broker with many people giving him fat speaking fees and millions of dollars for quid pro quo deals ... and the Democrats rewarded Hillary for staying with him with a Senate seat - and when they wanted to run Obama they rewarded her with Secretary of State and a guaranteed position as the Democratic Candidate in 2016 ... to which they burned the Bernie in order to fulfill

Thats just two ... it was said that in LBJ's tenure a secretary was not permanent until she'd been scr@wed on the desk [not my wording].. and John Kennedy was not the family man the world thought ...

This Tweet and all of Trumps Tweets are nothing .. when you consider the abhorrent behaviors of past occupiers of the Oval Office
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How do you feel about a president who likes to watch underage beauty pageant contestants in their dressing room?
Not to mention assaulting women, and bragging about it too....

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And Kennedy and Clinton were not contrite or apologetic ... get real ... Kennedy went on a sex party and while driving drunk the woman he was with was killed ... those are facts .. he never lost an election or paid any political price really .. The Lion of the Senate

Clinton is still a power broker with many people giving him fat speaking fees and millions of dollars for quid pro quo deals ... and the Democrats rewarded Hillary for staying with him with a Senate seat - and when they wanted to run Obama they rewarded her with Secretary of State and a guaranteed position as the Democratic Candidate in 2016 ... to which they burned the Bernie in order to fulfill

Thats just two ... it was said that in LBJ's tenure a secretary was not permanent until she'd been scr@wed on the desk [not my wording].. and John Kennedy was not the family man the world thought ...

This Tweet and all of Trumps Tweets are nothing .. when you consider the abhorrent behaviors of past occupiers of the Oval Office
None of this is abhorrent or morally objectionable at all, right?
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And Kennedy and Clinton were not contrite or apologetic ... get real ... Kennedy went on a sex party and while driving drunk the woman he was with was killed ... those are facts .. he never lost an election or paid any political price really .. The Lion of the Senate

Clinton is still a power broker with many people giving him fat speaking fees and millions of dollars for quid pro quo deals ... and the Democrats rewarded Hillary for staying with him with a Senate seat - and when they wanted to run Obama they rewarded her with Secretary of State and a guaranteed position as the Democratic Candidate in 2016 ... to which they burned the Bernie in order to fulfill

Thats just two ... it was said that in LBJ's tenure a secretary was not permanent until she'd been scr@wed on the desk [not my wording].. and John Kennedy was not the family man the world thought ...

This Tweet and all of Trumps Tweets are nothing .. when you consider the abhorrent behaviors of past occupiers of the Oval Office


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This Tweet and all of Trumps Tweets are nothing .. when you consider the abhorrent behaviors of past occupiers of the Oval Office
If you are so captivated by the private sex life of these men, then tall us also about Trump's sex life. perhaps you might just recapitulate the public details.

I am less concerned with the sins of others - and have no prurient interest in the private affairs of others. I am not eager to cast stones,

I am much more concerned of the blasphemous attitude of a person who is proud to be in your face with awful behavior, and professes a lack of compunction.
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Man has poor memory. It is made worse when they don't make use of it.
The true facts are remembered. The use of them to imagine that they somehow exculpate Trump is a shameful abuse,
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If you are so captivated by the private sex life of these men, then tall us also about Trump's sex life. perhaps you might just recapitulate the public details.

I am less concerned with the sins of others - and have no prurient interest in the private affairs of others. I am not eager to cast stones,

I am much more concerned of the blasphemous attitude of a person who is proud to be in your face with awful behavior, and professes a lack of compunction.
Nice deflection - I am not really interested in private sex lives of people .. and I dont throw stones .. what I dont care for is selective outrage and attempts to malign some people and have hyperbole over others ..

The democrat party loves Ted Kennedy and Clinton but castigates Trump

How about Biden - a racist who said of Barrack Obama
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The most powerful man in the world taking advantage of an Intern sexually in the Oval Office - a private sexual matter ...

But a meme Tweet of a cartoon .. thats awful

Trump was not my first second or even third choice - but he is better than Hillary - Gorsuch on the SCOTUS is good IMHO ...

Call a man a Cheeto, and Insane and dis his physicality and attack his family day in and day out .. well - the Tweets are small payback ... really not anything I worry about - but then I dont read Twitter posts - just the made up outrage of the left .. and it is all made up ... its as Fake as much of the news they print -
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How do you feel about a president who likes to watch underage beauty pageant contestants in their dressing room?
I thought that was the way our wonderful society is hoping to go, allowing men who think they are women into ladies' dressing rooms?
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Nice deflection - I am not really interested in private sex lives of people .. and I dont throw stones ...
LOL you are the one who deflected from Trump to others.
And you can't seem to get over it.

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Small payback. Yes. Small. Very small.
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[quote=dvdjs;14752757]LOL you are the one who deflected from Trump to others.
And you can't seem to get over it.

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Small payback. Yes. Small. Very small.
No I said the outrage over the Tweets - so UN- Presidential and not what we expect from one who occupies the Oval Office .. I merely pointed out that train left the station ... and its fake outrage .. fake I mean really fake ..
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Nope, this is what happens when someone fights back against a bully who has ran roughshod over their political opponents for decades without any pushback whatsoever. Suck it up, haters; President Trump has the media's number, and they absolutely know it. That's why they've had an eight-month-long hissy fit since he won. They are powerless against him. I, for one, absolutely love it and I hope he continues for the next seven and a half years.
Were you asleep during the Republican primaries? Donald Trump did nothing but bully the other candidates.

Sorry to disappoint you but I don't see this embarrassment finishing out the year. His support is rapidly fading except for the few like yourself have been brainwashed by the cult of Donald Trump. 
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I thought that was the way our wonderful society is hoping to go, allowing men who think they are women into ladies' dressing rooms?
Nice red herring there. Way to address the actual subject. So many here refuse to acknowledge the overwhelming abundance of morally questionable behavior here. Have you read about all this? it's funny how someone posted about Obama being "drug-addled" earlier, when marijuana is nowhere near as bad as the drugs Trump was using and encouraging underage girls to use.
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Nothing happened! Chill out. It's just a tweet.
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I thought that was the way our wonderful society is hoping to go, allowing men who think they are women into ladies' dressing rooms?
Especially when our society refuses to punish men who do. You can apparently now brag about sexual assault on tape, have the whole world see it, and STILL be elected president. Why wouldn't that deter men from going into dressing rooms?!
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No, at that point the referee stops the fight. If you're going to use a metaphor you gotta have it make sense.
It's a crooked referee, obviously, because no one has said a word about the dirty tactics up until now.

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I wouldn't want to take credit for that drivel either.
Apparently, you didn't read it. It's a perfect metaphor for what has been going on for the past few decades in politics.
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Nice red herring there. Way to address the actual subject. So many here refuse to acknowledge the overwhelming abundance of morally questionable behavior here. Have you read about all this? it's funny how someone posted about Obama being "drug-addled" earlier, when marijuana is nowhere near as bad as the drugs Trump was using and encouraging underage girls to use.
I'm just being honest, and it is the truth. I don't at all condone anything our current president has said or done, I agree that he is vulgar and childish, and I do wish we had someone more dignified, someone who stood for true Catholic values, because that is what I care about, at least, I don't know about anyone else really, anymore. I'm just making a point by saying that I'm really surprised our society, which seems to embrace perversions and vulgarity, would find anything wrong with what he's done. Again, I myself don't agree with it at all, but I also don't embrace things that are disgusting and wrong.
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This statement is full of erroneous assumptions and generalizations. People don't hate him for winning the election, they're opposed to the fact that his policies will leave the poor and disabled disadvantaged and without access to food or healthcare, and probably dead if they have any serious medical emergencies. At least for those opposed to Obamacare, all they had to complain about was the fact that it cost extra money but they still had access to healthcare. People love scapegoating the poor and defenseless instead of examining other extraneous taxpayer costs.
And if his policies had anything to do with that, the people who think that might have a point. Since your claims bear zero resemblance to the truth, they don't. No, the statement wasn't erroneous in the slightest; Trump's biggest detractors are those who hate him for defeating Hillary Clinton.
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This story is hours old already. I saw it early this morning. It was not just tweeted.

I am sure before the week is over he will have done something else that will have
people upset all over again.
A week? Independence Day is in two days; he's going to say something positive about America, the flag and God, and the left will find a new way to simultaneously have a conniption and a fainting spell.
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Oh, please. She immigrated legally, and waited until she had been here long enough to apply for citizenship. If you're going to spread lies, try to make them a little more convincing.
Melania Trump modeled in US prior to getting work visa

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Melania Trump was paid for 10 modeling jobs in the United States worth $20,056 that occurred in the seven weeks before she had legal permission to work in the country, according to detailed accounting ledgers, contracts and related documents from 20 years ago provided to The Associated Press.

The details of Mrs. Trump's early paid modeling work in the U.S. emerged in the final days of a bitter presidential campaign in which her husband, Donald Trump, has taken a hard line on immigration laws and those who violate them. Trump has proposed broader use of the government's E-verify system allowing employers to check whether job applicants are authorized to work. He has noted that federal law prohibits illegally paying immigrants.

Mrs. Trump, who received a green card in March 2001 and became a U.S. citizen in 2006, has always maintained that she arrived in the country legally and never violated the terms of her immigration status. During the presidential campaign, she has cited her story to defend her husband's hard line on immigration.

The wife of the GOP presidential nominee, who sometimes worked as a model under just her first name, has said through an attorney that she first came to the U.S. from Slovenia on Aug. 27, 1996, on a B1/B2 visitor visa and then obtained an H-1B work visa on Oct. 18, 1996.

The documents obtained by the AP show she was paid for 10 modeling assignments between Sept. 10 and Oct. 15, during a time when her visa allowed her generally to be in the U.S. and look for work but not perform paid work in the country. The documents examined by the AP indicate that the modeling assignments would have been outside the bounds of her visa.
If discovered at the time this would have been grounds for deportation, and still is (even if rarely prosecuted against people who have gained citizenship). The Trump administration recently argued in front of the Supreme Court that any false statement on naturalization applications is grounds for revoking citizenship and deportation, I wonder how they feel about Melania and her illegal employment?
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The video was one of the funniest things ive seen lately. i remember watching that live when i was about 12 years old! just a tweet. i think watching snowflakes melt over it is the funniest thing of all. If THAT is what the liberals are calling "a call to violence," then they should be thankful to have lived such a safe, secure, and sheltered life.
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Were you asleep during the Republican primaries? Donald Trump did nothing but bully the other candidates.
I wasn't, but apparently you were. Trump never struck first; he always counterpunched, and did so masterfully. He even warned Ted Cruz not to play dirty before Special Ted's campaign manager set up the softcore Melania picture ads in Utah. No sympathy whatsoever for any of the Republican candidates, all whom would have pulled a McCain and rolled over for Hillary.

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His support is rapidly fading? Interesting viewpoint. Of course, polls that sample Democrats at +6 or +9 are so utterly reliable, right? If you want to throw piddling little insults about cults and brainwashing, you're really going to have to do better; I've heard much more clever comments; I had the pleasure of taking a politics course with a hardcore left-wing professor last year. I have it on good authority that he was out on the lawn screaming at 3 am on November 9th. I got more nastiness from that class than you could dream up. So bring it on; you've got as much chance of hurting my feelings as Hillary does of ever being President.
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I remember seeing a video of Trump supposedly throwing someone around a wrestling arena and hitting them with a chair. I thought it was funny when I saw it (is it even really him?). It's just as funny with the guy representing CNN.

I'm not a fan of his late night tweeting (or any of his tweets, come to think of it), nor some of his actions, but I'll recognize humor where I find it.
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Were you asleep during the Republican primaries? Donald Trump did nothing but bully the other candidates.

Sorry to disappoint you but I don't see this embarrassment finishing out the year. His support is rapidly fading except for the few like yourself have been brainwashed by the cult of Donald Trump.
Yes, all he did was bully. That's why I stopped liking him and was firmly Cruz during the primaries. But I highly doubt that his support is dwindling.
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Especially when our society refuses to punish men who do. You can apparently now brag about sexual assault on tape, have the whole world see it, and STILL be elected president. Why wouldn't that deter men from going into dressing rooms?!
Well, really, how can anyone think it's just fine for a clearly man to go into a woman's dressingroom, simply because he thinks he's a female? Anyone fine with that is really just...oh, nevermind. I'm ready to pull out my hair and scream, so I'd better just get on out of here!
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I remember seeing a video of Trump supposedly throwing someone around a wrestling arena and hitting them with a chair. I thought it was funny when I saw it (is it even really him?). It's just as funny with the guy representing CNN.

I'm not a fan of his late night tweeting (or any of his tweets, come to think of it), nor some of his actions, but I'll recognize humor where I find it.
I admit that I didn't watch the video (didn't want to use my phone for the purpose) but did later in another website and thought it was incredibably funny.

Liberals have an issue with it though. I just wish they had as much issue with all the videos and false reportings against Trump by the Fake News, then we don't have to argue much on this thread.
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No, it's called 'standing up for yourself' and take the fight right to their own level. Marquis of Queensbury rules no longer apply when your opponent goes for the tenderloins. At that point, the gloves come off, and you put the opponent down for the count by whatever means necessary.

Nobody on the left seemed to complain when the media insulted Trump and his family on a daily basis. Now all of a sudden people are calling for dignity and decorum? Tell that to the people advocating that Barron Trump be killed while he's still young and can't do any harm to the country. Tell that to the people who denigrate Melania for things she did a couple of decades ago before she was even dating Donald Trump. Tell that to the people who openly cheered on the attempted assassination of members of the Republican Congress at a baseball practice. The left has been getting away with dirty fighting for years without any response from the 'dignified, gentlemanly' GOP. Well, we the voters made it quite clear in November: No. More. Don't like it? Tell your own side to dial it back. Until then, it's open season, and no more punches will be pulled.
Well said. The liberal left leaning Press is totally out of control with their hatred for Trump. Enough is Enough.
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How many times is that excuse gonna work you think?
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Think of the current political climate as a school yard. The Democrat party is the school bully. Always picking on everyone for little to no reason except to make himself feel good. The Republican party is the bulk of the student population. They all hate the bully, but they’re too afraid to stand up to him. The teachers are the Mainstream Media. They love the bully because the bully sucks up to them. He’s always respectful to the teachers, and the teachers always take his side.

Then along comes Donald Trump. He’s the new kid, fresh from another school. Donald sees the bully picking on the other kids constantly. He sees the teachers defend the bully and punish the kids that get picked on. Donald doesn’t know why this happens. He hasn’t learned the rules of this new school yet. Donald doesn’t know that he’s supposed to be meek and quiet towards the bully.

Donald quickly becomes the bully’s new target. The bully knows Donald doesn’t understand the rules around here. That’s okay, though, because the bully is only too happy to teach Donald the ways of the world. The bully picks on Donald every single day. He picks on Donald’s friends. He picks on Donald’s family. The bully roughs Donald up. At the end of the day it’s the bully that rules the roost here at this school. The bully must teach Donald the lesson.

One day, though, Donald decides he’s had quite enough. One day while the bully is dancing around Donald laughing at him, Donald hauls off and punches the bully square in the face. The bully falls to the ground, dazed for a few seconds. All of the other kids fall silent. Donald doesn’t say a word. He simply stands over the bully, fists clenched, waiting for him to get back up. The bully stares in stunned silence at Donald. No one has ever hit the bully back before. That won’t do. The bully can’t be seen as weak. The bully gets back up, and takes a single step towards Donald. Donald, without saying a word, punches the bully again, this time square in the nose. Some of the other students gasp as an audible CRACK is heard. The bully crumples to the ground. Blood streams from his broken nose. The bully looks at Donald looming over him, still silent. The bully’s lip starts to quiver. Tears stream from his eyes. The bully jumps up and runs from Donald, sobbing and crying for his mommy. Most of the other kids cheer Donald. He has broken the bully’s iron grip on the school yard.
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Translates to: "He didn't say that, and if he did, you misunderstood him, and if you didn't, he didn't mean it that way, and if he did, well other people have said worse!"
Yep. It's depressing. This behaviour by Trump is unacceptable, but what's new there? Nothing at all.

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If I were Trump, I would feel like punching those who spread fake scandalized news about me.

Do you care about the hundreds of fake stories/lies he has spread since taking office?

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And cue a new generation of kids beating each other up because their president did.

Good thing he didnt use a gun!
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And cue a new generation of kids beating each other up because their president did.

Good thing he didnt use a gun!
The President is simply standing up to the news bullying he's received. It's not an endorsement to "beat people up."

At least he's not promoting oral sex with an intern in the oval office, or leaving people to drown after some drunken orgy.

It could be and has been far worse than this.

Obviously he did not use his gun so that comment is bizarre to me.

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The President is simply standing up to the news bullying he's received. It's not an endorsement to "beat people up."

At least he's not promoting oral sex with an intern in the oval office, or leaving people to drown after some drunken orgy.

It could be and has been far worse than this.

Obviously he did not use his gun so that comment is bizarre to me.

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This was initially made 10 years ago, it wasnt about bullying.

It was put on reddit a little while ago. Trump or his people refigured it and then he tweeted it out.

Do you think the best way to deal with bullying is to beat people up?

The man would, I imagine, have a fair bit of influence in the states. It's a pity he doesn't know the best way to use it.

Someone being bullied rarely gets to beat the bully up, they are most commonly on the receiving end. So the excuse oh he is just standing up to a bully doesn't fly.


What would people's response be if this was Cardinal Pell, Mueller, Pope Francis, be?

Why are people lowering the bar and making excuses for this.


I said , good thing he didn't use a gun. Why, because young people and even older people are quite impressionable.

I can guarantee you there will be a rise in kids and older people beating each other up because they saw the pres do it.
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This was initially made 10 years ago, it wasnt about bullying.

It was put on reddit a little while ago. Trump or his people refigured it and then he tweeted it out.

Do you think the best way to deal with bullying is to beat people up?

The man would, I imagine, have a fair bit of influence in the states. It's a pity he doesn't know the best way to use it.

Someone being bullied rarely gets to beat the bully up, they are most commonly on the receiving end. So the excuse oh he is just standing up to a bully doesn't fly.


What would people's response be if this was Cardinal Pell, Mueller, Pope Francis, be?

Why are people lowering the bar and making excuses for this.


I said , good thing he didn't use a gun. Why, young people and even older people are quite impressionable.

I can guarantee you there will be a rise in kids and older people beating each other up because they saw the pres do it.

I disagree so much with your post that I decline to comment on it. I realize from reading the thread that there are very PRO Trump people, AGAINST Trump people and some who seem to be objective.

We agree to disagree.

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The President is simply standing up to the news bullying he's received. It's not an endorsement to "beat people up."
In a world where a politician recently beat up a reporter and was celebrated for doing so people in positions of power need to be careful with what they say.
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I disagree so much with your post that I decline to comment on it. I realize from reading the thread that there are very PRO Trump people, AGAINST Trump people and some who seem to be objective.

We agree to disagree.

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I saw the video clip. It was about professional wrestling. As a youth I watched those but got over them. Unlike professional boxing, the fights were scripted. Any man with a little brain would know that they were - they were not real but for the show. The characters, Hulk Hogan or whatever names they have, were all acted on.

Only idiots would take these seriously but actually they were harmless. If anything, it is the drama and perhaps the acting and humor and of course, the muscles, that attract the audience. Probably more of guys thing.
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No, it's called 'standing up for yourself'
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No, it's being insecure and a bully and totally unfit for office.
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Nobody on the left seemed to complain when the media insulted Trump and his family on a daily basis.
The media didn't "insult" Trump on a daily basis.
They criticized him and held him accountable when he--and his cohorts- behaved foolishly, made decisions that will hurt the country, and lied to the public over and over and over again. There is a difference.

And you think it's only "the left" who can't stomach Trump? Think again. Members of his own party--senators we see every day in congress, walking next to him--can't bear the buffoon.


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The video is a doctored video that someone on Reddit edited and inserted the CNN logo into. Trump it seems for a while used to like to play wrestling. The original video features him attacking Vince McMahon.

Trump, picked up his phone, saw this and thought he should Tweet it.

These types of things cause me (and many others) to question his temperament. It isn't the media. He does a good job all by himself with these tweets.
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The video is a doctored video that someone on Reddit edited and inserted the CNN logo into. Trump it seems for a while used to like to play wrestling. The original video features him attacking Vince McMahon.

Trump, picked up his phone, saw this and thought he should Tweet it.

These types of things cause me (and many others) to question his temperament. It isn't the media. He does a good job all by himself with these tweets.
I will be more reasonable with him rather than questioning his temperament.

I think his response to the media is a measured one. They were attacking him, using false and biased reporting against him. These have negative effect on him politically and as a President.

He has to address this threat to his reputation and Presidency; and his strategy it seems is to face them head on, which no Presidents in the past would want to do. Nobody would want to make war against the media, a war they cannot win as the media control, well, the media.

Trump, to all surprises, decided to take them on in their game.

What probably gall them and Trump's haters, is that this President takes them on in their own game. He has the cheek to do that, so to speak.

Then everybody start saying what a President ought not to do.

So we can decide for ourselves - is not a President not a human being? Is he not like anyone of us? Should not we give him the privilege to use his own tactic and strategy against his adversaries?

I think we should. And that is why, not all people are outraged by what he did. In fact many of us quietly think that CNN got what was coming to them

Trump put it in a humorously mild manner though - your man lost and he had won this round.
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The video was one of the funniest things ive seen lately. i remember watching that live when i was about 12 years old! just a tweet. i think watching snowflakes melt over it is the funniest thing of all. If THAT is what the liberals are calling "a call to violence," then they should be thankful to have lived such a safe, secure, and sheltered life.

I thought it was Saturday Night Live.


The world has changed.


Everybody tweets now.


People used to use the telephone.


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The more I read Trump apologists, the more it's clear that this whole phenomenon is just them working out their insecurities and inferiority complex with people they think have looked down on them. And they're not totally wrong; the "elites" really can be smug, condescending jerks. But letting Trump turn over tables just so you can have some cathartic pleasure at seeing certain people horrified is not wise.
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I remember seeing a video of Trump supposedly throwing someone around a wrestling arena and hitting them with a chair. I thought it was funny when I saw it (is it even really him?). It's just as funny with the guy representing CNN.

I'm not a fan of his late night tweeting (or any of his tweets, come to think of it), nor some of his actions, but I'll recognize humor where I find it.
Yes, that was really him 'fighting' with Vince McMahon at Wrestlemania a few years back. The two have worked together before; Wrestlemanias IV and V were held at the Trump Plaza back in the late 1980s. It's all storyline (although people do get hurt in the ring) and melodrama; soap-operas for men, it was described as once.
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And cue a new generation of kids beating each other up because their president did.

Good thing he didnt use a gun!
Pearl-clutching, anyone? If you think that in this violence-soaked culture perpetrated by the left, that suddenly people are going to start punching each other because the President posted a humorous tweet, I think a reality check is in serious order.

I suppose the Julius Caesar play is 'just art', right?
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In a world where a politician recently beat up a reporter and was celebrated for doing so people in positions of power need to be careful with what they say.
How about a world where an otherwise-ordinary man shot people at a baseball practice after determining they were members of the other political party, and was celebrated for doing so by thousands of other people of like-mind without any serious condemnation from the media? Shoud people in positions of power be careful with what they say on this matter, too?
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No, it's being insecure and a bully and totally unfit for office.
25th Amendment, here we come!
Only in your dreams. If Obama didn't deserve the 25th, no one does. But good luck getting two-thirds of the Cabinet and/or Congress to go along with it, especially since the Democrats have demonstrated their complete inability to win down-ballot elections since 2010.

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The media didn't "insult" Trump on a daily basis.
Oh yes, they did. I can understand you didn't see it; their ratings have been in the tank for a while now, so not too many people are actually watching. But yet, they have been insulting him constantly since he announced his candidacy.
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They criticized him and held him accountable when he--and his cohorts- behaved foolishly, made decisions that will hurt the country, and lied to the public over and over and over again. There is a difference.
Yes; my statement was the truth, yours is false. Big difference. Trump's policies and decisions aren't hurting the country; on the contrary, they're making the country stronger both economically and internationally. Globalism is destined to fail, and the world will be better for it.

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And you think it's only "the left" who can't stomach Trump? Think again. Members of his own party--senators we see every day in congress, walking next to him--can't bear the buffoon.
I'm well aware of the neverTrumpers; they are a constant source of amusement. They think that the media still has the power to destroy the President, a power they have threatened to wield since Watergate made them feel empowered. But Trump has something very important in common with Ronald Reagan: He speaks directly to the people, bypassing the media filter as much as possible, and gets his message out. He also fights back, The neverTrumpers are stuck in the past, and the Uniparty members in Congress are hoping that this will all go away and they can go back to being the Democrats' lapdogs where they get to keep their perks and positions without having to actually do anything constructive.

Notice how the neverTrumpers haven't put forth a straightforward repeal bill since 2015? They made a big show of passing them in the House up until there was a chance that it might actually be signed. Suddenly, Ryan can't find a single Congressman to put that bill up for vote one more time? I guarantee you, conservatives have noticed that, and they are not pleased at all. They're not mad at Trump; if Ryan and McConnell were to put a 'Repeal of Obamacare' bill on the Resolute Desk, it would be signed into law before the pages had time to settle.

So who is really doing the lying to the American people? The man who said he would sign a repeal bill, or the men who said they'd put one on the President's desk?
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Yes, it seems that some here are proverbially drinking the kool-aid in following him.
Not at all.

Many of us who support him wish he didn't tweet, and didn't lower himself to the press's level. I want him to stay above the fray and that doesn't help him get anything done.

Does that mean I don't think he is much better than the alternative he ran against in getting the issues I care about taken care of? Nope. Does that mean I am going to suddenly oppose the policies he supports? Of course not.

People act like if Pence was the President they'd love and support him, which is nonsense. If Pence agreed to keep his platform 100% identical to Trump, he had as little support among Trump's detractors here as Trump does, they just wouldn't be as vocal, since they couldn't complain about tweeting.

Again, I didn't expect Obama's supporters to abandon him after he made repeated mistakes in office, or showed his narcissism and ignorance on a myriad of occasions. Why do you expect people who fundamentally agree with Trump on issues would be any different that BO's supporters.
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Only in your dreams. If Obama didn't deserve the 25th, no one does. But good luck getting two-thirds of the Cabinet and/or Congress to go along with it, especially since the Democrats have demonstrated their complete inability to win down-ballot elections since 2010.


Oh yes, they did. I can understand you didn't see it; their ratings have been in the tank for a while now, so not too many people are actually watching. But yet, they have been insulting him constantly since he announced his candidacy.

Yes; my statement was the truth, yours is false. Big difference. Trump's policies and decisions aren't hurting the country; on the contrary, they're making the country stronger both economically and internationally. Globalism is destined to fail, and the world will be better for it.



I'm well aware of the neverTrumpers; they are a constant source of amusement. They think that the media still has the power to destroy the President, a power they have threatened to wield since Watergate made them feel empowered. But Trump has something very important in common with Ronald Reagan: He speaks directly to the people, bypassing the media filter as much as possible, and gets his message out. He also fights back, The neverTrumpers are stuck in the past, and the Uniparty members in Congress are hoping that this will all go away and they can go back to being the Democrats' lapdogs where they get to keep their perks and positions without having to actually do anything constructive.

Notice how the neverTrumpers haven't put forth a straightforward repeal bill since 2015? They made a big show of passing them in the House up until there was a chance that it might actually be signed. Suddenly, Ryan can't find a single Congressman to put that bill up for vote one more time? I guarantee you, conservatives have noticed that, and they are not pleased at all. They're not mad at Trump; if Ryan and McConnell were to put a 'Repeal of Obamacare' bill on the Resolute Desk, it would be signed into law before the pages had time to settle.

So who is really doing the lying to the American people? The man who said he would sign a repeal bill, or the men who said they'd put one on the President's desk?
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Trump has something very important in common with Ronald Reagan: He speaks directly to the people, bypassing the media filter as much as possible, and gets his message out. He also fights back




Trump has also suggested that Congress could make Obamacare optional ... pass a bill NOW to abolish it in a year or two ... meaning: let poor people use Obamacare but let others choose to get their own free market medical insurance.
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The more I read Trump apologists, the more it's clear that this whole phenomenon is just them working out their insecurities and inferiority complex with people they think have looked down on them. And they're not totally wrong; the "elites" really can be smug, condescending jerks. But letting Trump turn over tables just so you can have some cathartic pleasure at seeing certain people horrified is not wise.
Ah, there we go...now the truth starts to bubble up to the surface. Now it's not just the President who's immature and unstable...no, it's all the people who supported him (and still do). Clearly, we're all just a bunch of idiots who don't understand the nuances and subtleties of politics and governance, just a bunch of rednecks and factory workers lashing out at the world that has passed us by.

Quit psycho-analyzing us; you do just as bad a job of that as you do with the President. I might as well just say that all anti-Trump people are clearly self-loathing people suffering from extreme white guilt and feeling a deep need to apologize for their privilege. That's about the same breadth as the brush you're painting us with, and just as valid.

I suppose the President should be telling people to bring a gun to a knife fight or something instead. Because that's much more appropriate and presidential, right?
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Only in your dreams. If Obama didn't deserve the 25th, no one does. But good luck getting two-thirds of the Cabinet and/or Congress to go along with it, especially since the Democrats have demonstrated their complete inability to win down-ballot elections since 2010.


Oh yes, they did. I can understand you didn't see it; their ratings have been in the tank for a while now, so not too many people are actually watching. But yet, they have been insulting him constantly since he announced his candidacy.

Yes; my statement was the truth, yours is false. Big difference. Trump's policies and decisions aren't hurting the country; on the contrary, they're making the country stronger both economically and internationally. Globalism is destined to fail, and the world will be better for it.



I'm well aware of the neverTrumpers; they are a constant source of amusement. They think that the media still has the power to destroy the President, a power they have threatened to wield since Watergate made them feel empowered. But Trump has something very important in common with Ronald Reagan: He speaks directly to the people, bypassing the media filter as much as possible, and gets his message out. He also fights back, The neverTrumpers are stuck in the past, and the Uniparty members in Congress are hoping that this will all go away and they can go back to being the Democrats' lapdogs where they get to keep their perks and positions without having to actually do anything constructive.

Notice how the neverTrumpers haven't put forth a straightforward repeal bill since 2015? They made a big show of passing them in the House up until there was a chance that it might actually be signed. Suddenly, Ryan can't find a single Congressman to put that bill up for vote one more time? I guarantee you, conservatives have noticed that, and they are not pleased at all. They're not mad at Trump; if Ryan and McConnell were to put a 'Repeal of Obamacare' bill on the Resolute Desk, it would be signed into law before the pages had time to settle.

So who is really doing the lying to the American people? The man who said he would sign a repeal bill, or the men who said they'd put one on the President's desk?

Once Trump secured the Republican nomination, the "never Trumpers" came out of the woodwork.


What do or did "never Trumpers" actually want?


They wanted Hillary to be president???? Seriously????


I canceled my subscriptions to alleged right wing publications who adopted the "never Trump" mantra.


I was trained to diagnose mental illnesses.


The "never Trumpers" fit neatly into the category of schizoprenics.
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Ah, there we go...now the truth starts to bubble up to the surface. Now it's not just the President who's immature and unstable...no, it's all the people who supported him (and still do). Clearly, we're all just a bunch of idiots who don't understand the nuances and subtleties of politics and governance, just a bunch of rednecks and factory workers lashing out at the world that has passed us by.

Quit psycho-analyzing us; you do just as bad a job of that as you do with the President. I might as well just say that all anti-Trump people are clearly self-loathing people suffering from extreme white guilt and feeling a deep need to apologize for their privilege. That's about the same breadth as the brush you're painting us with, and just as valid.

I suppose the President should be telling people to bring a gun to a knife fight or something instead. Because that's much more appropriate and presidential, right?
Yeah, around here, the President is rude and nasty, according to some.

Now, those people can with rude and nasty in their broad-brush attacks on anyone who supports the President or his policies, but the rules need not apply to the people who make them up.

Again, why people expect any President's supporters to abandon him in office is beyond me, unless he changes his core principles. When Obama showed himself to be a liar, a race-baiter, and a man with no backbone who would cave on social issues like marriage because apparently, he could care less for what the authentic God thinks, did anyone of his supporters on here leave him? Were there legions of posts questioning how any of his supporters could justify staying with him? Of course not. I swear every time we have a President or an election, the left especially shows how juvenile they are at their core by losing their mind and acting like this is historic or new territory. Trump may have a different personality than BO who had a different personality than Bush, but against the backdrop of history (which is hwy DaddyGirl bringing up the 25th amendment is embarrassing), this is just another four year term. Some folks need to get a grip.

People act like we didn't know who each candidate was when we voted for or against them. The only ones who are ignorant are the people who act like this is surprising. You have a binary option in Presidential politics, so you vote for the policies that most closely align to you and hope to smooth out the rest.
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Needs to work on his 'punchlines'
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Pearl-clutching, anyone? If you think that in this violence-soaked culture perpetrated by the left, that suddenly people are going to start punching each other because the President posted a humorous tweet, I think a reality check is in serious order.

I suppose the Julius Caesar play is 'just art', right?
You dont believe children are impressionable? Esp by the actions of their president? Who, after all , has already incited impressionable adults into anti trump and anti media actions at trump rallies?

Even worse, it incites violence against news media. What message is this sending?

Guess what, I am not in your country. I am part of those in another country starting to watch what we think is a derailing little tugboat.
And its generating a lot of negative media and comedy here. And in other countries.

Btw left here is the opposite of left in USA.

But seriously ask yourself, why the smokescreen. What issue is this stopping any real discussion in?

Surely its not about spotted leapords in Indonesia? Or toll roads in Indonesia?

Or maybe not about crippling a nation economically until it dismantles a media station?

But hey wont this be fun. Afterall noone got all soapy eyed over that fun little beheading sketch? Lets see how the media responds. Cause they will.

I understand the hey i voted for you slap on the back old chum ha ha ha ,

But surely there are those who stand up and say quit beating up others in the playground and tweeting it. Quit punching others in the face and tweeting it.

Surely, in USA. There are still people like that.

And people who will stand up and say no, dont do that in the spotted leapord habitat, its an extremely endangered big cat.
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Needs to work on his 'punchlines'
Now that's the right way to approach this!!! People need to lighten up.
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Ah, there we go...now the truth starts to bubble up to the surface. Now it's not just the President who's immature and unstable...no, it's all the people who supported him (and still do). Clearly, we're all just a bunch of idiots who don't understand the nuances and subtleties of politics and governance, just a bunch of rednecks and factory workers lashing out at the world that has passed us by.

Quit psycho-analyzing us; you do just as bad a job of that as you do with the President. I might as well just say that all anti-Trump people are clearly self-loathing people suffering from extreme white guilt and feeling a deep need to apologize for their privilege. That's about the same breadth as the brush you're painting us with, and just as valid.

I suppose the President should be telling people to bring a gun to a knife fight or something instead. Because that's much more appropriate and presidential, right?
Thanks for helping me make my point.
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I think what this thread is demonstrating is that, despite claims to the contrary, tit for tat exchanges based on stereotypes and assumptions help neither side.

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Worth borrowing from your post:

Trump has something very important in common with Ronald Reagan: He speaks directly to the people, bypassing the media filter as much as possible, and gets his message out. He also fights back




Trump has also suggested that Congress could make Obamacare optional ... pass a bill NOW to abolish it in a year or two ... meaning: let poor people use Obamacare but let others choose to get their own free market medical insurance.
I don't remember Reagan acting like a frat boy ever. I remember him having significant decorum.
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I think what this thread is demonstrating is that, despite claims to the contrary, tit for tat exchanges based on stereotypes and assumptions help neither side.
I wonder if Trump's goal with this video is to underscore how his partisans will never abandon him no matter what he does.

Yet again I see people on both sides accepting the false dichotomy that one must either "support Trump 100%" or "hate Trump and want him impeached".

I still think Trump may be (marginally) preferable to HRC but that doesn't mean I find him to be beyond criticism.

Last I checked "if someone hits you, hit them back twice as hard" was NOT in the Bible. Neither was "God will excuse all your sins as long as you point to others who are worse sinners".
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People are getting there heads chopped off by ISIS in the Philippines, a tense situation is brewing at sea with China, Illinois is on the verge of financhial collapse. and this is news !
Not only that but it was all over the news media for hours and hours. I'm not sure what is gained by publicizing it, except clickbait for the media.

If you have a toddler or a small child who "acts out" sometimes then you know that the answer is NOT to give him a bunch of attention when he does so, as that just encourages the behavior. The more press attention that gets paid to tweets about plastic surgery or WWE appearance footage, the more such things will continue. But the media does not care; all they care about is clicks on their website.
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Not only that but it was all over the news media for hours and hours. I'm not sure what is gained by publicizing it, except clickbait for the media.
I'm not absolving the media either, but a whole lot of people follow Trump's tweets without any need for media coverage of them; indeed that is one defense Trump fans make of his tweeting, that they let him access his constituents directly without the media filter.

To turn around now and blame the media for giving his tweets too much coverage strikes me as yet another case of deflection.

Re your comparison to children, most parents do not accept "they started it" or "they did worse" as valid excuses for the kind of behavior that Trump is not only defended for, but praised for.

And BTW this isn't just about sore-loser liberals unhappy that Trump is winning. Trump isn't exactly having much success with his agenda last I checked. He finally got the green light (for now) for the travel ban. Health care reform reform is stalled. He hasn't even started to tackle tax reform yet.
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I wonder if Trump's goal with this video is to underscore how his partisans will never abandon him no matter what he does.

Yet again I see people on both sides accepting the false dichotomy that one must either "support Trump 100%" or "hate Trump and want him impeached".

I still think Trump may be (marginally) preferable to HRC but that doesn't mean I find him to be beyond criticism.

Last I checked "if someone hits you, hit them back twice as hard" was NOT in the Bible. Neither was "God will excuse all your sins as long as you point to others who are worse sinners".
I think this video is just so unpresidential that it should be criticized across the board. I'm just imagining if Bill Clinton or Barrack Obama or George W. Bush had made this type of video. I think I would have condemned it whoever made the video.

I'm surprised not so much that he made it, but that people defend it. Or that people defend the tweets against Mika. That people defend this behavior saddens me. Being a bully isn't a virtue.
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I'm not absolving the media either, but a whole lot of people follow Trump's tweets without any need for media coverage of them; indeed that is one defense Trump fans make of his tweeting, that they let him access his constituents directly without the media filter.

To turn around now and blame the media for giving his tweets too much coverage strikes me as yet another case of deflection.
If everyone who cares about this stuff can read it on twitter, then why do the media, and by that I mean every single media outlet in every city, have to run a story about it?

Answer: They do it for the clicks, because they know people will come there to read and argue about it.

I have a hard time finding any sort of intelligent analysis of stuff that is actually going on politically on some of the news sites because they're too busy retweeting this Hollywood celebrity garbage about what Donald said to Mika.

And yes, I can and will certainly blame the media for the failure to provide intelligent stories that I want to read in favor of paying too much attention to clickbait. Has nothing to do with deflection. I strongly dislike most of the media in this country and my dislike started years before Trump ever threw his hat in the ring. What's gone on since he did has just confirmed all the things I disliked.
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I think this video is just so unpresidential that it should be criticized across the board. I'm just imagining if Bill Clinton or Barrack Obama or George W. Bush had made this type of video. I think I would have condemned it whoever made the video.

I'm surprised not so much that he made it, but that people defend it. Or that people defend the tweets against Mika. That people defend this behavior saddens me. Being a bully isn't a virtue.
I agree, it isn't a virtue, but most of what Barack Obama stood for wasn't virtuous in my opinion, and yet we saw no calls for Americans to denounce Obama from the same people who object to Trump's lashing out.

Now let me guess how folks will respond - "it isn't even close the same thing" or "nothing Obama did was comparable" or some other somesuch vague subjective statement.

Just because Obama carried himself differently from Trump who carries himself differently than Bush doesn't mean anyone of them was more virtuous than the other.

It sounds innocent enough to say "can't we just all line up on one side against bad behavior" when the party we like isn't in power, but I have no interest in playing that game since it isn't sincere, and is only done to hurt one's political enemies. I saw the same types of democrats on here swooning over Alan Grayson, Maxine Waters, and Stuart Smalley to realize they have no standards they oppose other than Republicans.
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I agree, it isn't a virtue, but most of what Barack Obama stood for wasn't virtuous in my opinion, and yet we saw no calls for Americans to denounce Obama from the same people who object to Trump's lashing out.

Now let me guess how folks will respond - "it isn't even close the same thing" or "nothing Obama did was comparable" or some other somesuch vague subjective statement.

Just because Obama carried himself differently from Trump who carries himself differently than Bush doesn't mean anyone of them was more virtuous than the other.

It sounds innocent enough to say "can't we just all line up on one side against bad behavior" when the party we like isn't in power, but I have no interest in playing that game since it isn't sincere, and is only done to hurt one's political enemies. I saw the same types of democrats on here swooning over Alan Grayson, Maxine Waters, and Stuart Smalley to realize they have no standards they oppose other than Republicans.
I didn't vote for Obama. But I remember his most cringeworthy gaffes included giving DVDs to the British PM that were in the wrong format for him to watch. And he was criticized for not following proper protocol.

It isn't about policy. He's the president and he tweets about people bleeding from surgery scars. Maybe he should take his job more seriously?
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This is what I'm talking about. It's just catharsis. It's just "Look how mad we're making those snooty people in New York who make fun of us." It's petty and childish.
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45's presidency keeps the lulz coming.
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Not only that but it was all over the news media for hours and hours. I'm not sure what is gained by publicizing it, except clickbait for the media.

If you have a toddler or a small child who "acts out" sometimes then you know that the answer is NOT to give him a bunch of attention when he does so, as that just encourages the behavior. The more press attention that gets paid to tweets about plastic surgery or WWE appearance footage, the more such things will continue. But the media does not care; all they care about is clicks on their website.
He enjoys the response he gets on Twitter from his Twitter fans. That's why he blocks people like Stephen King the author. So he can't see his criticism.
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You just put up a picture of laughing mobsters. That's what you want republicans to look like?
It's actually a picture of actors, in a movie. If I wanted to put of pictures of mobsters, I'd have used pictures of the Democrat Party's action arm, "Antifa", or, maybe Bernie Bro, James Hodgkinson.

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Man, discussions about Trump on CAF have just gotten boring. It's just paint by numbers at this point.
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Man, discussions about Trump on CAF have just gotten boring. It's just paint by numbers at this point.
Then maybe you should leave the President alone. It is so disrespectful.
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While I find most of what President Trump does and says unfathomable, sometimes I think he does these things to distract attention from the last outrageous thing he said, which was issued to distract from the outrageous thing before that, etc. etc.
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Then maybe you should leave the President alone. It is so disrespectful.
The President is a 71 year old public official. He's not a twelve year old that we've all decided to cyber-bully. His conduct, especially that conduct he chooses to publicize on Twitter, is subject to the court of public opinion. Screw "leaving him alone." I mean, really. Hard pass on that nonsense.
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Then maybe you should leave the President alone. It is so disrespectful.
He quickly eroded the respect due the office. I, for one, was willing to give it.
At this point he needs to start earning it back.
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Just like some of you should leave former presidents alone too.
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I think you have the images reversed. I think the established Democrats in Washington, like Trumps' tweeting, because they can point to Trumps' temperment, point out his folly, and it takes focus and momentum away from the the Republican agenda.

I think the established Washington Republicans, are fed up with Trumps tweeting. Instead of spending time discussing their agenda, when Trump mindlessly tweets like this, Washington Republicans are barraged with questions regarding his attacks on mundane people like Mika brzenski, and Joe Scarborough. It takes the discussion off of the work they are doing on their Republican platform


Make no mistake about it...Washington Democrats, LOVE Trump tweeting, they want him to do more of it and often, behind the seens they are probably laughing their heads off with each new controversy, he creates... And Washington Republicans, are aggravated and flustered.
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I don't understand. What is disrespectful?

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Just like some of you should leave former presidents alone too.
Indeed. Just the way George W Bush was left alone... oh, wait.
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I think you have the images reversed. I think the established Democrats in Washington, like Trump tweeting, because they can point to Trumps' temperment, point ojt his folly, and it takes focus and momentum away from the the Republican agenda.

I think the established Washington Republicans, are fed up and with Trumps tweeting. Instead of spending time discussing their agenda, when Trump mindlessly, tweets like this, Washington Republicans are barraged with questions regarding his attacks on mundane people like Mika brzenski, and Joe Scarborough. It takes the discussion off of the work they are doing on their Republican platform


Make no mistake about it...Washington Democrats, LOVE Trump tweeting, behind the seens they are probably laughing their heads off with each new controversy, he creates... And Washington Republicans, are aggravated and flustered.
Do you really think Washington Democrats are happy with the state of political affairs now? Trump's support hasn't been hurt. Republicans are winning election after election. 2018 doesn't look promising for Dems with them having to defend 5 Senate seats in deep red states. This "Antifa" stuff isn't the sign of a political party confident of victory. Washington Republicans may be frustrated, but let's be real, Washington DC and it's surrounding suburbs are 95% Democrat. They're really not representative of the country at large.
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I thought it was funny and fairly harmless, not the best thing to put on twitter for the whole world to see though, as this thread I believe attests to. It's just Trumps outgoing personality, as for actual policies I think he is doing fairly well. If this is the worst of President Trump, I think he's doing well.

In regards to some of the comments over this, I agree that a tit for tat thing isn't helpful, but I also believe there is a lot of selective outrage here. Especially since the recent ProjectVeritas videos exposing CNN and their 'nothing burgers'. And this fake news could have cost him the election, it's defamation/slander/libel of the highest kind and CNN and others should be liable for that sort of thing I think.

Would be good if there were actually something Trump or his administration could do about this sort of corrupt reporting rather then just a joking gif of bashing up CNN over it.

Breaking up the monopolies somehow on media I think would be a good start if they could.

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Do you really think Washington Democrats are happy with the state of political affairs now? Trump's support hasn't been hurt. Republicans are winning election after election. 2018 doesn't look promising for Dems with them having to defend 5 Senate seats in deep red states. This "Antifa" stuff isn't the sign of a political party confident of victory. Washington Republicans may be frustrated, but let's be real, Washington DC and it's surrounding suburbs are 95% Democrat. They're really not representative of the country at large.
2018 is a little more ambiguous because it depends on which seats are up for reelection, but I think Democrats are very confident about 2020. I mean, Trump's approval rating has been sub-40% for a long time now.

Yeah, he has 35% of the country that is unshakably loyal to him, but I think he's shedding a bunch of Republicans and moderates who held their nose and voted for him because they couldn't bear to vote for Hillary.
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Do you really think Washington Democrats are happy with the state of political affairs now? Trump's support hasn't been hurt. Republicans are winning election after election. 2018 doesn't look promising for Dems with them having to defend 5 Senate seats in deep red states. This "Antifa" stuff isn't the sign of a political party confident of victory. Washington Republicans may be frustrated, but let's be real, Washington DC and it's surrounding suburbs are 95% Democrat. They're really not representative of the country at large.
I wouldn't be so sure of 2020 if I were you, I really hope and pray the US and Australia and others elect pro-life representatives, but if we think it's somehow assured, then we are more likely to lose.

Just as if you can't see your opponents in a race, and half way through think your winning, you will slack off, but if you can see your opponent behind you and gaining ground, you will start running faster. It's part of the reason why Clinton lost I believe.

Anyway, just some of my thoughts.

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Do you really think Washington Democrats are happy with the state of political affairs now? Trump's support hasn't been hurt. Republicans are winning election after election. 2018 doesn't look promising for Dems with them having to defend 5 Senate seats in deep red states. This "Antifa" stuff isn't the sign of a political party confident of victory. Washington Republicans may be frustrated, but let's be real, Washington DC and it's surrounding suburbs are 95% Democrat. They're really not representative of the country at large.
Yes, I do think that Washington Democrats, Love it. Anytime, they put their Republican colleagues in a situation where Republican congessman have to publicly repudiate their Republican president for a stupid tweet that hes made after the last stupid tweet. Its is one more embarrassment that Washington Republicans have to face. Yes, it's embarrassing for Washington Republicans to publicly repudiate their Republican president over and over again because of stupid tweets. And yes, I think his tweets are hurting the Republicans from getting an agenda through. Last week, when the Senate Republicans were discussing how to negotiate their healthcare bill. President Trump through a grenade in their negotiations by tweeting that they should vote to just repeal now and replace later. I think Trump needs to knock it off with the tweeting. I think that it is embarrassing for Washington Republicans, and tweeting whatever random thing that pops into his mind. Throws, extra wrenches into the discussions that are taking place to get the Republican agenda passed. Democrats love it, Republicans hate it.
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Did Jesus feel like punching those who brutalized and killed him? Did he voice anything indicating that?
No, but he did make a whip out of cords to drive the money changers out of the temple, flipped their tables and spilled their money everywhere.


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Just as if you can't see your opponents in a race, and half way through think your winning, you will slack off, but if you can see your opponent behind you and gaining ground, you will start running faster. It's part of the reason why Clinton lost I believe.
Yup, I agree. Clinton was so confident in the last few weeks that she decided to run up the popular vote totals in places she was already going to win, like CA and NY, instead of campaigning in places like Michigan and Wisconsin.
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The NY post's cover about this was pretty funny.

It is a large image so here is a direct link:
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The President is a 71 year old public official. He's not a twelve year old that we've all decided to cyber-bully. His conduct, especially that conduct he chooses to publicize on Twitter, is subject to the court of public opinion. Screw "leaving him alone." I mean, really. Hard pass on that nonsense.
There are big outlets for criticizing the President and other politicians. These big outlets are controlled by a small number of people who all think alike.

There is no large outlet on which anyone can criticize the media or criticize the media's take on things. Obama talks badly about Americans: the media swoons because they too look down on your average Joe.

Trump stands up for the average Joe and the media swarps all over him. And his wife. And his kids. Since there is no counter-balance, Trump takes the media on. On their own terms or worse.

I am sure a lot of people enjoy the chaos. I wish there had been someone better than Trump, but unfortunately, there wasn't. But we needed someone who could come out swining against the relentless condescension and Enlightened high-mindedness (yeah, right) of the media, and I am glad that one was elected President.
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There are big outlets for criticizing the President and other politicians. These big outlets are controlled by a small number of people who all think alike.

There is no large outlet on which anyone can criticize the media or criticize the media's take on things. Obama talks badly about Americans: the media swoons because they too look down on your average Joe.

Trump stands up for the average Joe and the media swarps all over him. And his wife. And his kids. Since there is no counter-balance, Trump takes the media on. On their own terms or worse.

I am sure a lot of people enjoy the chaos. I wish there had been someone better than Trump, but unfortunately, there wasn't. But we needed someone who could come out swining against the relentless condescension and Enlightened high-mindedness (yeah, right) of the media, and I am glad that one was elected President.
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Not really. But if you think so, there's likely nothing anyone can say to disabuse you of that notion.
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Yes, I do think that Washington Democrats, Love it. Anytime, they put their Republican colleagues in a situation where Republican congessman have to publicly repudiate their Republican president for a stupid tweet that hes made after the last stupid tweet. Its is one more embarrassment that Washington Republicans have to face. Yes, it's embarrassing for Washington Republicans to publicly repudiate their Republican president over and over again because of stupid tweets. And yes, I think his tweets are hurting the Republicans from getting an agenda through. Last week, when the Senate Republicans were discussing how to negotiate their healthcare bill. President Trump through a grenade in their negotiations by tweeting that they should vote to just repeal now and replace later. I think Trump needs to knock it off with the tweeting. I think that it is embarrassing for Washington Republicans, and tweeting whatever random thing that pops into his mind. Throws, extra wrenches into the discussions that are taking place to get the Republican agenda passed. Democrats love it, Republicans hate it.
I seriously can't believe all the drama about Trump's tweets. Get over it Dems.You lost the election. If the worst thing you can do is whine and complain about Tweets you don't have much time to work on your own party platform which is how to extend the murder of the unborn to whatever level up to the day of birth.

ANYTHING is better than what could have been a pro death president like Clinton.
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There are big outlets for criticizing the President and other politicians. These big outlets are controlled by a small number of people who all think alike.

There is no large outlet on which anyone can criticize the media or criticize the media's take on things. Obama talks badly about Americans: the media swoons because they too look down on your average Joe.

Trump stands up for the average Joe and the media swarps all over him. And his wife. And his kids. Since there is no counter-balance, Trump takes the media on. On their own terms or worse.

I am sure a lot of people enjoy the chaos. I wish there had been someone better than Trump, but unfortunately, there wasn't. But we needed someone who could come out swining against the relentless condescension and Enlightened high-mindedness (yeah, right) of the media, and I am glad that one was elected President.
I get the "Trump is the lesser of two evils" argument. I'm not persuaded by it, but I do get it. And I agree that "the media" tends to be dominated by people who are culturally similar to one another. National journalism is largely a coastal, cosmopolitan, urban profession. And urban cosmopolitan people can really be condescending and high handed with everyone else.

All that said, even if you agree that Trump needs to push back against "the media", why do it in such a juvenile fashion? Why not make his case in a straightforward, dignified way? Sit down with Anderson Cooper and go, "Look, on this date you reported that I said or did X. I actually said or did Y, and here's the proof." Now, I don't think Trump would win this exchange by a mile, but if he wants to joust, let him do it like a President and not an angry Internet troll.

Trump is allowed to argue that the media narrative is flawed. (I'm not saying he'd be right, but there's nothing wrong with him making his case.) But at least do it in a dignified way worthy of the office.
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I do not see a problem with it, its actually pretty tame.

Furthermore, I think the media has sort of brought this upon themselves, the press of today is not even remotely the same thing as the press of yesterday (what the press was supposed to be), they are just another faction of one particular political party, nothing more.

Its funny so many folks get upset over this, but some of the people we celebrate on July 4th, in their days, it was common to burn effigies of king george, and depict other violence, yet they are patriots that can do no wrong today..OK.
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No, but he did make a whip out of cords to drive the money changers out of the temple, flipped their tables and spilled their money everywhere.
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Woes of the Pharisees—called them hypocrites, whited sepulchers, murderers, snakes, blind guides, and fools.

Trump has not punched or murdered anyone. The metaphor of violence exists throughout any conflictual field, and politics is not immune.

Actual violence, however, has been perptrated mostly by the left, as they attacked Trump supporters and now disguised themselves as Antifascists.


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Did he voice anything indicating that? Did Obama say anything indicating that he felt that way, despite the fact that he has been called a terrorist, all the racist things people have said of him and his wife and family, and that his religion and nationality and nationality have been questioned?
If they bring knives, we will use guns?

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I think that since the White House has said the presidential tweets are official presidential statements. His tweets carry more weight. And people are going to pay closer attention to them.
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This is what happens when we elect a person with no core principles, no sense of dignity or shame, and whose primary purpose is self-aggrandizement.
I thought the video is funny. Does it represent Trump and the media in conflict with one another? Yes, but we already knew that, so who cares? Why is this video such a big deal?
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I do not see a problem with it, its actually pretty tame.

Furthermore, I think the media has sort of brought this upon themselves, the press of today is not even remotely the same thing as the press of yesterday (what the press was supposed to be), they are just another faction of one particular political party, nothing more.

Its funny so many folks get upset over this, but some of the people we celebrate on July 4th, in their days, it was common to burn effigies of king george, and depict other violence, yet they are patriots that can do no wrong today..OK.
During the War of Independence, George Washington banned burning the Pope in effigy on "Pope Day" so as to not offend his French allies.

Trump goes out of his way to be offensive. There is no comparison.
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I thought the video is funny. Does it represent Trump and the media in conflict with one another? Yes, but we already know that, so who cares? Why is this video such a big deal?
Because the President is the head of state and retweeting some photoshopped gif some goober made on Youtube is, or at least used to be, beneath the dignity of the office.
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I think that since the White House has said the the presidential tweets are official presidential statements. His tweets carry more weight. And people are going to pay closer attention to them.
I could care less about any tweets personally either way. If he wants to tweet, tweet away. The Press just gets their underwear in a bunch and he gets free press as he did during the election.

The Polls the media put out are all a joke as we know as HClinton lost the election albeit predicted " polls" indicating she was ahead and would win the election. Why should we put any trust in the Press? They have an agenda and are just cryin' up a storm because they don't have the access to the President via traditional means.

They are biased, left liberal slanted, and not trustworthy.

Seriously peeps, get over a simple twee that was to be a bit humorous.
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Because the President is the head of state and retweeting some photoshopped gif some goober made on Youtube is, or at least used to be, beneath the dignity of the office.
There have been worse things done by Trump and other Presidents than this silly video. Having sex with an intern in the Oval Office is one that comes to mind. Now THAT kind of behavior is "beneath the dignity of the office."
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There have been worse things done by Trump and other Presidents than this silly video. Having sex with an intern in the Oval Office is one that comes to mind. Now THAT kind of behavior is "beneath the dignity of the office."
I agree. We've seen far worse than t his tweet.

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During the War of Independence, George Washington banned burning the Pope in effigy on "Pope Day" so as to not offend his French allies.

Trump goes out of his way to be offensive. There is no comparison.
Did he ban the burning of King George III in effigy? That would be the more appropriate analogy.

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Yes, I do think that Washington Democrats, Love it. Anytime, they put their Republican colleagues in a situation where Republican congessman have to publicly repudiate their Republican president for a stupid tweet that hes made after the last stupid tweet. Its is one more embarrassment that Washington Republicans have to face. Yes, it's embarrassing for Washington Republicans to publicly repudiate their Republican president over and over again because of stupid tweets. And yes, I think his tweets are hurting the Republicans from getting an agenda through. Last week, when the Senate Republicans were discussing how to negotiate their healthcare bill. President Trump through a grenade in their negotiations by tweeting that they should vote to just repeal now and replace later. I think Trump needs to knock it off with the tweeting. I think that it is embarrassing for Washington Republicans, and tweeting whatever random thing that pops into his mind. Throws, extra wrenches into the discussions that are taking place to get the Republican agenda passed. Democrats love it, Republicans hate it.
They don't look like they're loving it. They look like they know they're getting curb stomped and have no idea how to stop it. They look like they're realizing that after flailing away for 5 rounds, they still haven't been able to lay a glove on Trump. Trump is moving his agenda forward, and I'm not seeing any evidence that any of the manufactured outrage from CNN and MSNBC doing anything to slow it down.
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There have been worse things done by Trump and other Presidents than this silly video. Having sex with an intern in the Oval Office is one that comes to mind. Now THAT kind of behavior is "beneath the dignity of the office."
I'm sure as long as he's the only thing we're talking about, then it's 'mission accomplished.'
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During the War of Independence, George Washington banned burning the Pope in effigy on "Pope Day" so as to not offend his French allies.

Trump goes out of his way to be offensive. There is no comparison.
What was the press like in those days? I think if they had acted like the press of today, far worse would have been done to them.
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I could care less about any tweets personally either way. If he wants to tweet, tweet away. The Press just gets their underwear in a bunch and he gets free press as he did during the election.

The Polls the media put out are all a joke as we know as HClinton lost the election albeit predicted " polls" indicating she was ahead and would win the election. Why should we put any trust in the Press? They have an agenda and are just cryin' up a storm because they don't have the access to the President via traditional means.

They are biased, left liberal slanted, and not trustworthy.

Seriously peeps, get over a simple twee that was to be a bit humorous.
I care about the tweets, because as the white house says, they are official presidential statements. And the banality of them, puts the Republican congress at odds with issuing statements that repudiate the Republican president. And some of the tweets have, contributed to the stalling of passage of the Republican agenda. If they were just the ramblings of the president, then no I wouldn't care. But, due to the reasons above, yes I do care.
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I get the "Trump is the lesser of two evils" argument. I'm not persuaded by it, but I do get it. And I agree that "the media" tends to be dominated by people who are culturally similar to one another. National journalism is largely a coastal, cosmopolitan, urban profession. And urban cosmopolitan people can really be condescending and high handed with everyone else.

All that said, even if you agree that Trump needs to push back against "the media", why do it in such a juvenile fashion? Why not make his case in a straightforward, dignified way? Sit down with Anderson Cooper and go, "Look, on this date you reported that I said or did X. I actually said or did Y, and here's the proof." Now, I don't think Trump would win this exchange by a mile, but if he wants to joust, let him do it like a President and not an angry Internet troll.

Trump is allowed to argue that the media narrative is flawed. (I'm not saying he'd be right, but there's nothing wrong with him making his case.) But at least do it in a dignified way worthy of the office.
Because we have had a number of decades in which Republicans did just that, and the news media has only been emboldened to go further.

The problems with really rude people is that the only way to get their attention is to be rude back.
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No, it's called 'standing up for yourself' and take the fight right to their own level. Marquis of Queensbury rules no longer apply when your opponent goes for the tenderloins. At that point, the gloves come off, and you put the opponent down for the count by whatever means necessary.

Nobody on the left seemed to complain when the media insulted Trump and his family on a daily basis. Now all of a sudden people are calling for dignity and decorum? Tell that to the people advocating that Barron Trump be killed while he's still young and can't do any harm to the country. Tell that to the people who denigrate Melania for things she did a couple of decades ago before she was even dating Donald Trump. Tell that to the people who openly cheered on the attempted assassination of members of the Republican Congress at a baseball practice. The left has been getting away with dirty fighting for years without any response from the 'dignified, gentlemanly' GOP. Well, we the voters made it quite clear in November: No. More. Don't like it? Tell your own side to dial it back. Until then, it's open season, and no more punches will be pulled.
Exactly, there's only so much a human being can take, and turning the other cheek doesn't mean being a doormat. I for one would fight back, perhaps, not as brashly or rudely (which I admit he is and can be), but there is s greater problem here that isn't being acknowledged by the Left and some people on the Right, and that is the MSM thinks THEY CAN BULLY PEOPLE THEY DON"T LIKE with impunity.
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I'm sure as long as he's the only thing we're talking about, then it's 'mission accomplished.'
You're spot on with regard to that.
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I get the "Trump is the lesser of two evils" argument. I'm not persuaded by it, but I do get it. And I agree that "the media" tends to be dominated by people who are culturally similar to one another. National journalism is largely a coastal, cosmopolitan, urban profession. And urban cosmopolitan people can really be condescending and high handed with everyone else.

All that said, even if you agree that Trump needs to push back against "the media", why do it in such a juvenile fashion? Why not make his case in a straightforward, dignified way? Sit down with Anderson Cooper and go, "Look, on this date you reported that I said or did X. I actually said or did Y, and here's the proof." Now, I don't think Trump would win this exchange by a mile, but if he wants to joust, let him do it like a President and not an angry Internet troll.

Trump is allowed to argue that the media narrative is flawed. (I'm not saying he'd be right, but there's nothing wrong with him making his case.) But at least do it in a dignified way worthy of the office.

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I thought the video is funny. Does it represent Trump and the media in conflict with one another? Yes, but we already knew that, so who cares? Why is this video such a big deal?
I would not have done this. I would not have recommended it. I got a very small chuckle from it and moved on to more important things like how all those Roadrunner cartoons inspired violence against coyotes.
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There have been worse things done by Trump and other Presidents than this silly video. Having sex with an intern in the Oval Office is one that comes to mind. Now THAT kind of behavior is "beneath the dignity of the office."
Yes, it is. Bill Clinton being a scummy horndog doesn't excuse Trump from acting like an out of control reality TV star. It's not either/or.
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All I can say, is that at this point, I actually think Trump was right when he claimed that he could shoot someone and still not lose his supporters.
Trump was engaging in hyperbole when he said that, but there is an underlying truth to what he said - that his most rabid supporters will not abandon him no matter how grotesque his behavior is. I would have thought that the breaking point would have been when he admitted to grabbing women by the genitals, but somehow his supporters rationalized that admission.  
 
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Here's a tweet from the President that, not surprisingly, gets very little notice.

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonal...75263700783104

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...-charlie-gard/
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Here's a tweet from the President that, not surprisingly, gets very little notice.

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonal...75263700783104

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...-charlie-gard/
Trump is to be praised for his generosity and concern in this regard.
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Here's a tweet from the President that, not surprisingly, gets very little notice.

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonal...75263700783104

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...-charlie-gard/
Whose fault is that that it doesn't get noticed? That's half the problem with Trump's ridiculous behavior: it's self-defeating. Trump has no one but himself to blame that people are distracted by his ridiculous tweets: he's the one hitting submit on them after all. He's not a victim here.
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Here's a tweet from the President that, not surprisingly, gets very little notice.

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonal...75263700783104

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...-charlie-gard/
Nbcnews is posting this story
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/tr...e-gard-n779271

As well as cnn
http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/03/health...-bn/index.html

Abcnews
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireS..._headlines_hed

Fox news
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017...d-to-help.html
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Thanks for correcting the record.
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I didn't vote for Obama. But I remember his most cringeworthy gaffes included giving DVDs to the British PM that were in the wrong format for him to watch. And he was criticized for not following proper protocol.

It isn't about policy. He's the president and he tweets about people bleeding from surgery scars. Maybe he should take his job more seriously?
I agree that Trump would give his opponents less red meat if he laid off of twitter. I disagree it indicates he doesn't take his job seriously, or he lowers the esteem of the office. Clinton had an affair in the office. Kennedy used to funnel women in the back door. LBJ was known as a profane ornery cuss. Nixon had an enemies list. Obama used to constantly lower the esteem of the office by ignorantly interjecting himself into local affairs and dividing people on racial lines. And the list goes on and on. To me, this is just another example of a President meeting the standard set by his predecessors.

Cater and Reagan seemed to treat the office with some decorum, and I am sure there were others.

But to think he is going to lose support assumes there is or will be an alternative that is better. Again, I'd prefer he lay off twitter, but I'd prefer someone whose policies I can endorse who uses twitter over someone with progressive policies who has the world's best manners any day. We do the best we can with what choices we are offered.
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I think this video is just so unpresidential that it should be criticized across the board. I'm just imagining if Bill Clinton or Barrack Obama or George W. Bush had made this type of video. I think I would have condemned it whoever made the video.

I'm surprised not so much that he made it, but that people defend it. Or that people defend the tweets against Mika. That people defend this behavior saddens me. Being a bully isn't a virtue.
Well - Trump did not make this video - a Reddit User did -

I assume he thought it was funny and probably accurate to the way he is portrayed by CNN - who which had to retract some articles and fire three people over false reporting about Trump .. he merely re-Tweeted [if that is the correct term] or posted something that was already n the public domain ...

It is not anything more than that ... and far different than is Trump actually spent time putting this video together
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Whose fault is that that it doesn't get noticed? That's half the problem with Trump's ridiculous behavior: it's self-defeating. Trump has no one but himself to blame that people are distracted by his ridiculous tweets: he's the one hitting submit on them after all. He's not a victim here.
A positive story will not get noticed for longer than 30 seconds - just long enough for them to say - Hey We covered it ... Not like the hours and days of this melt down

Nothing Trump does that would be considered good, excellent, positive or "normal" gets noticed or reported - that is not the stated goal of most of the media - who have made it clear that they want to take this President down - no matter what ...

They are so intent on that task that they have published information that has hurt the nations security.

They have published inaccurate unsubstantiated information that placed the President and or his administration in a negative light - and then had to retract.

They have continued to push the Russian Collusion story including the insinuation that Trump was a target - even while knowing there was no such connection and that Trump was not a target .. innuendo was the goal

Positive stories - nah .. they'd rather talk about anything and everything bad about Trump and even include the family - like nudes of his wife and question if his son was disabled mentally and if he should assassinate his SIL or if his children are evil murderers and rapists like Sadaam's boys and are a threat to the citizens of this country like they were
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Yes, it is. Bill Clinton being a scummy horndog doesn't excuse Trump from acting like an out of control reality TV star. It's not either/or.
Trump has got the press just where he wants them. LOL, it's they that give him all the free press. He has snubbed them and their liberal agenda and false news and they whine and cry all the time and complain and complain and complain about Trump.

It has gotten old. Having oral sex in the oval office is not a good analogy to a humorous tweet about wrestling with CNN.

Geez, lighten up peeps.
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It would not get noticed if every one of Trumps Tweets were exactly like this one .. noting Trump does that would be considered good, excellent, positive or "normal" gets noticed or reported - that is not the stated goal of most of the media - who have made it clear that they want to take this President down - no matter what ...

They are so intent on that task that they have published information that has hurt the nations security.

They have published inaccurate unsubstantiated information that placed the President and or his administration in a negative light - and then had to retract.

They have continued to push the Russian Collusion story including the insinuation that Trump was a target - even while knowing there was no such connection and that Trump was not a target .. innuendo was the goal

Positive stories - nah .. they'd rather talk about anything and everything bad about Trump and even include the family - like nudes of his wife and question if his son was disabled mentally and if he should assassinate his SIL or if his children are evil murderers and rapists like Sadaam's boys and are a threat to the citizens of this country like they were
I'll pass the standard litany of complaints against the evil media bogeyman because, frankly, it's kind of boring and tired at this point. Let's just set that aside for a minute. Let's even agree for the sake of argument that the media is irrationally hostile to Trump.

Why does he have to keep giving his opponents ammunition by acting like an idiot? He doesn't have to give them material to work with by embracing the narrative that he's an immature, juvenile, Twitter-obsessed bully with no self-control.

Wouldn't the best retort to the notion that Trump behaves like a reality TV star instead of a President be, I don't know....acting like an adult on Twitter?

I mean, let's set aside policy differences for a second. Look at Obama or Clinton's twitter. It looks like a rational, sober adult is behind them. They're not misspelled. They're not loaded down with crazy exclamation points. There are no dumb 3 AM spats with journalists. Whether you agree with the policies they advocate or not, they present themselves as calm, rational adults.
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Having oral sex in the oval office is not a good analogy to a humorous tweet about wrestling with CNN.
Depends on what the definition of "is" is.
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It has gotten old. Having oral sex in the oval office is not a good analogy to a humorous tweet about wrestling with CNN.
Don't look at me, it wasn't my analogy.
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I'll pass the standard litany of complaints against the evil media bogeyman because, frankly, it's kind of boring and tired at this point. Let's just set that aside for a minute. Let's even agree for the sake of argument that the media is irrationally hostile to Trump.

Why does he have to keep giving his opponents ammunition by acting like an idiot? He doesn't have to give them material to work with by embracing the narrative that he's an immature, juvenile, Twitter-obsessed bully with no self-control.

Wouldn't the best retort to the notion that Trump behaves like a reality TV star instead of a President be, I don't know....acting like an adult on Twitter?

I mean, let's set aside policy differences for a second. Look at Obama or Clinton's twitter. It looks like a rational, sober adult is behind them. They're not misspelled. They're not loaded down with crazy exclamation points. There are no dumb 3 AM spats with journalists. Whether you agree with the policies they advocate or not, they present themselves as calm, rational adults.
I don't find those that advocate for the murder of children as "rational, sober, adults

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I don't find those that advocate for the murder of children as "rational, sober, adults

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That's why I said remove the policy differences from the equation and focus on presentation. You missed the point.
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Whose fault is that that it doesn't get noticed? That's half the problem with Trump's ridiculous behavior: it's self-defeating. Trump has no one but himself to blame that people are distracted by his ridiculous tweets: he's the one hitting submit on them after all. He's not a victim here.
He's not a victim in any manner, that I agree with. He has the press raving mad and they hate him for it because he doesn't agree with their liberal, leftist agenda nor really give a care about answering their questions.

He is far ahead of the Press in navigating the hostile press that gets their feathers so ruffled up and angry at every tweet. Just a mob of angry press people they are.

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Depends on what the definition of "is" is.
Or your definition of what is and what is not Presidential behavior

My guess is - having a sense of humor and not taking oneself too seriously and posting a humorous video you noticed that characterizes your relationship with the media is a very serious sin - unforgivable even ... we should all be

While ....

Abusing one's power as the most powerful leader in the world - a mature married man and father - performing sex acts with a very young intern in the Oval Office located in the White House [also referred to as the "Peoples House"] - well - that is okay .. just another day at the office illustrating one's special Presidential qualities no biggie - nothing to see here
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He's not a victim in any manner, that I agree with. He has the press raving mad and they hate him for it because he doesn't agree with their liberal, leftist agenda nor really give a care about answering their questions.
"Ooh, that evil liberal media!" (shakes fist)

There, feel better? You've gotten your licks in at the evil bogeyman. Can we move past the copy+paste standard issue talking points now?
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That's why I said remove the policy differences from the equation and focus on presentation. You missed the point.
I see,so there is some way to "present" a reasonable way to justify the Democrat Platform for abortion? No, there is not. I get your point loud and clear and don't agree with it.

Presentation doesn't do any good for the dead kids with the blessing of the Democratic party. (And people are upset by a tweet, I can't even truly believe it.) What could be more immature that insisting we murder children for the sake of "choice?"

Nothing in my book.

Ok then, we'll move on.

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I see,so there is some way to "present" a reasonable way to justify the Democrat Platform for abortion? No, there is not. I get your point loud and clear and don't agree with it.

Presentation doesn't do any good for the dead kids with the blessing of the Democratic party. (And people are upset by a tweet, I can't even truly believe it.) What could be more immature that insisting we murder children for the sake of "choice?"

Nothing in my book.

Ok then, we'll move on.

Mary.
No, you really don't, and it's such an obvious point that I think you're deliberately missing it.

To spell this out for you Barney-style, I'm not pro-choice. I'm not a Democrat. I know some of you are so soaked in the partisan Kool-Aid that when you hear someone criticize Trump you assume they must be some kind of leftie kook. I'm not.

I don't think advocating for abortion is right, or good, or wise.

My point is entirely about how to present a message and a public persona that commands respect. It has nothing to do with the underlying message, which could be good, bad, or indifferent.
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No, you really don't, and it's such an obvious point that I think you're deliberately missing it.

To spell this out for you Barney-style, I'm not pro-choice. I'm not a Democrat. I know some of you are so soaked in the partisan Kool-Aid that when you hear someone criticize Trump you assume they must be some kind of leftie kook. I'm not.

I don't think advocating for abortion is right, or good, or wise.

My point is entirely about how to present a message and a public persona that commands respect. It has nothing to do with the underlying message, which could be good, bad, or indifferent.
Ah I see. I did not vote for Trump. I truly don't think his tweets are any big deal and they have been blown truly so out of proportion it's ridiculous. The underlying message of this one is a joke regarding his relationship with the press.

Lighten up people. good grief.

I disagree and we'll leave it at that.
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He's not a victim in any manner, that I agree with. He has the press raving mad and they hate him for it because he doesn't agree with their liberal, leftist agenda nor really give a care about answering their questions.

He is far ahead of the Press in navigating the hostile press that gets their feathers so ruffled up and angry at every tweet. Just a mob of angry press people they are.

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Would it be accurate to say that you trust President Trump far more than the media, (and probably most politicians), and that you see his leadership as truly giving you hope for our nation?

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No, you really don't, and it's such an obvious point that I think you're deliberately missing it.

To spell this out for you Barney-style, I'm not pro-choice. I'm not a Democrat. I know some of you are so soaked in the partisan Kool-Aid that when you hear someone criticize Trump you assume they must be some kind of leftie kook. I'm not.

I don't think advocating for abortion is right, or good, or wise.

My point is entirely about how to present a message and a public persona that commands respect. It has nothing to do with the underlying message, which could be good, bad, or indifferent.
And previous Republican presidents have done that. They have maintained their dignity and the dignity of the office. And.... ? Republicans are still run down, mischaracterized, and lied about by the partisan press.

The only way to break the stranglehold of the liberal bad behavior on our media is by doing something along the lines of what Trump os doing. He will continue until everyone gets the message.
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And previous Republican presidents have done that. They have maintained their dignity and the dignity of the office. And.... ? Republicans are still run down, mischaracterized, and lied about by the partisan press.

The only way to break the stranglehold of the liberal bad behavior on our media is by doing something along the lines of what Trump os doing. He will continue until everyone gets the message.
A) Country above party.

B) Do you really think Trump's behavior is convincing anyone who isn't already firmly in his corner? Do you think this is contributing to people "getting the message?" Sure, his diehard supporters love it, but I highly doubt he's adding any new supporters. (And the numbers seem to bear that out.) If Trump wants to win in 2020, he'll need to grow his base of support. Playing to your audience with the same old antics is not the way to do that.
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Hi Mary,

Would it be accurate to say that you trust President Trump far more than the media, (and probably most politicians), and that you see his leadership as truly giving you hope for our nation?

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I see him as giving hope to the unborn. It's too soon for me to make a definitive statement about his leadership. I like the Supreme Court Justice he appointed.

The Press I have no regard for.

That's just my opinion.
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Ah I see. I did not vote for Trump. I truly don't think his tweets are any big deal and they have been blown truly so out of proportion it's ridiculous. The underlying message of this one is a joke regarding his relationship with the press.
In light of Rep. Gianforte's recent conviction, it is not all that funnny.

Neither is this:

A Reddit user who wrote about stabbing Muslims is claiming credit for Trump’s CNN video
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.901e94c73ebd
I was wondering where Trump picked this up.

Oh, and the man he wrestled to the ground is the husband of the head of his Small business Administration.

More creepy than funny, ISTM.
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In light of Rep. Gianforte's recent conviction, it is not all that funnny.

Neither is this:

A Reddit user who wrote about stabbing Muslims is claiming credit for Trump’s CNN video
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.901e94c73ebd
I was wondering where Trump picked this up.

Oh, and the man he wrestled to the ground is the husband of the head of his Small business Administration.

More creepy than funny, ISTM.

Read for the outcome of Gianforte's conviction:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Gianforte
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I agree that Trump would give his opponents less red meat if he laid off of twitter. I disagree it indicates he doesn't take his job seriously, or he lowers the esteem of the office. Clinton had an affair in the office. Kennedy used to funnel women in the back door. LBJ was known as a profane ornery cuss. Nixon had an enemies list. Obama used to constantly lower the esteem of the office by ignorantly interjecting himself into local affairs and dividing people on racial lines. And the list goes on and on. To me, this is just another example of a President meeting the standard set by his predecessors.

Cater and Reagan seemed to treat the office with some decorum, and I am sure there were others.

But to think he is going to lose support assumes there is or will be an alternative that is better. Again, I'd prefer he lay off twitter, but I'd prefer someone whose policies I can endorse who uses twitter over someone with progressive policies who has the world's best manners any day. We do the best we can with what choices we are offered.
Well, in a way the fact that the president is using Twitter is good, because people are bypassing the media to go straight to the source.
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Obama used to constantly lower the esteem of the office by ignorantly interjecting himself into local affairs and dividing people on racial lines.
I see this criticism of Obama a lot, that he divided people along racial lines.

I don't get it. It seems to me that he worked very hard to avoid being seen as the "black President," or the "President of black America."

Sometimes I think the only thing he did to divide America along racial lines was be black.
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now that's the right way to approach this!!! People need to lighten up.
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Again, I'd prefer he lay off twitter, but I'd prefer someone whose policies I can endorse who uses twitter over someone with progressive policies who has the world's best manners any day. We do the best we can with what choices we are offered.
Well, the Republican Party offered you 15 other choices during the run-up to the primary, but Republicans chose this one. Can't figure that out. Seems like Republicans could have done better with the choices they were offered. I'm hardly a conservative, but I kind of liked Kasich, myself. And Fiorina impressed me.

But Republicans chose Trump. Go figure.
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