Re: March for Women
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Maybe we should also have a Men's March in DC?
A march dedicated to men being real men. Similar to a Men's Catholic
conference, focused on authentic masculinity: i.e. honor, respect,
fatherhood, chivalry, etc.
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Yes. There should be a Men's march dedicated to authentic masculinity.
A lot better than the women's march which has an evil like abortion enshrined as a feminist sacrament. Sickening.
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Re: March for Women
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Maybe we should also have a Men's March in DC?
A march dedicated to men being real men. Similar to a Men's Catholic
conference, focused on authentic masculinity: i.e. honor, respect,
fatherhood, chivalry, etc.
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Men don't need anything man-specific else in this world, lol.
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Men don't need anything man-specific else in this world, lol.
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Why?
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Why?
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Because our culture is so male dominated as it is.
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Re: March for Women
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Men don't need anything man-specific else in this world, lol.
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I beg to differ. Have you ever been to a Catholic Men's conference? If you haven't, I highly recommend one.
Men need to learn how to be real men again.
Pornography, "dead-beat dads," etc. plus even the radical feminist movement have all warped authentic masculinity.
Men need to be reminded how to properly take care of the wives and
children. Men need to be reminded or taught how to be good fathers and
role models. Men need to learn how to not objectify & abuse women,
etc.
There are lots of things that a Man's March can accomplish to help make
sure children have active fathers, and that number of fatherless homes
diminishes.
God Bless
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Re: March for Women
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Because our culture is so male dominated as it is.
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If you look at the Generation X & Millennials, I don't think
our culture is really male dominated anymore. The number of women
attending college out numbers the number of men. The number of female
lawyers & doctors continue to increase.
At my law firm, the majority of associates are women. The majority of
partners is most likely still men, but that's because it will take a
while for the millennial generation and the generations that come after
the millennials to replace the Baby Boomers.
The majority of families with children today are two income households
and it's not uncommon for a wife to be the breadwinner today.
In regards to the pay gap, when you look at today's starting salaries,
the pay gap is practically non-existent. Many companies are starting to
have set starting salaries instead of having a large starting range. And
when a company does have a range, more women today are negotiating
better starting salaries instead of settling for the original offer.
Some studies have shown that the main reason there is a pay gap in
average pay is because there are many women who take significant time
off to have children. For example, my wife (a teacher) has taken 5 years
off from work so far. When she eventually goes back to work, her salary
will not be what it would have been if she didn't take several years
off. Addtionally, there are several associates (like at my firm) who
select lower pay and a lower annual billing requirement so they can
spend more time at home. And some, places of employment allow a mother
(not a father) to take up to a one year unpaid sabbatical after their
paid leave is gone after childbirth.
I strongly believe that as companies switch maternity leave to paternity
leave, we will see the gap start to close a lot more. That way, if a
mother is the breadwinner and a family wants one parent to take a year
off from work, the father could do it. However, even with this, I do
think that if one parent is going to take significant time off from
work, most mothers are going to want to be the one who does it (unless
the mother makes significantly more money than the father).
My point is, this is not the 20th century anymore. Women have far more
power today in today's society than they did even 20 years ago. Look,
how close we came to having a female President and BOTH parties had
serious female Presidential candidates.
My daughter is 5 years old and I have no doubt that she will be able to
do whatever she sets her mind to doing. The fact that she's a girl will
not hinder her at all. However, I don't feel the same way about my 2
year old son. I fear that an identity crisis among young men is growing.
Today, as a manager, when dealing with kids fresh out of college, I see
far more better female candidates than male candidates. A lot of the
young men I see in the legal field today are lacking the confidence and
social skills that their female counterparts have. It's a vast
difference compared to law school classes a decade ago.
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Re: March for Women
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The March isn't pro-abortion, it's
pro-women rights. There are pro-life groups marching (secular groups
anyway). There are plenty of pro-choice groups going but that's not the
point of the March in general. Everybody there may have different views,
the one thing they have in common is they are women or for women. There
is no mention of abortion or even reproductive rights in the mission
statement.
Take a look at the Guiding Principles as well.
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It is quite global now. 600 marches across 57 countries. And you
are correct, it is not about reproductive rights. It is about human
rights and equality - and dignity.
http://www.commondreams.org/news/201...bal-day-action
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Re: March for Women
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When unborn babies (just over 50% of whom are women) have human
rights, equality, and dignity, that will be a real occasion for
marching.
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not about could've should've
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Re: March for Women
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Nope, the earlier poster you quoted, and agreed with, has already
corrected their position. The organizers of the March specifically
reject any partners, no matter how committed to women's rights, who are
also prolife.
That is the sacred cause. They will not bend on that, they will not compromise on that, though they will bend, or compromise on any other women's issue.
If Donald Trump took a prochoice position in the campaign, and
everything else he said was the same...and Hilary took a prolife
position, every other position same as what she actually supported...the
media would have supported Trump.
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Re: March for Women
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I stand corrected. Thank you.
That's extremely disappointing. I was under the impression the march was
for all women. I guess everybody's got their sacred cow. It really does
stink being a pro-life progressive, nobody likes us.
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Hey, I like you.
As a former Democrat, as a social worker for over 40 years, who still
volunteers in the inner city, as someone who held his nose while he
voted for Trump, I think I can see your POV.
“Progress should mean that we are always changing the world to fit the
vision, instead we are always changing the vision.” G. K. Chesterton
Chesterton wrote many times about progress, and progressives. Look him
up. I know he has been claimed by some conservatives as a champion, but
he does not really fit into that category, nor does he fit into the
usual socialism vs capitalism categories. He also wrote a great deal
about progress and the family, and about contraception and foresaw legal
abortion.
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Re: March for Women
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Just curious--is anyone participating?
I'm not entirely sure what it's main purpose is.
It doesn't seem like it would be particularly Catholic-friendly. 
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Wish I could go. Would love to bring my pro-life generation banner.
Ah well.
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Re: March for Women
I bet you there will be a lot of coverage of the March for Women on all
the Cable Network News channels this Saturday, and almost wall to wall
coverage of that event on CNN and MSNBC but when the March for Life 2017
occurs on January 27th, we will be lucky if Fox News runs a two minute
news segment about it.
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Re: March for Women
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She’s a rockstar in politics right now, and that reputation is hard-earned and well- deserved.
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Kellyanne a "rock star"?
To whom?
People intensely dislike her.
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What do you mean?
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Originally Posted by ComplineSanFran
It is quite global now. 600 marches across 57 countries. And you are correct, it is not about reproductive rights. It is about human rights and equality - and dignity.
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Exactly.
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Originally Posted by commenter
If Donald Trump took a prochoice position in
the campaign, and everything else he said was the same...and Hilary
took a prolife position, every other position same as what she actually
supported...the media would have supported Trump.
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Um, no.
First of all, there's plenty of media...including The New York Post, by the way, who support and supported and publicly endorsed Trump.
Second...the media who didn't support Trump didn't do so because he implied he was against abortion.
They did it because he has no experience, he makes ill-informed, rash,
impetuous, spiteful statements and decisions, he's a bully to anyone he
doesn't like or who disagrees with him, he did not reveal his taxes, he
gave little indication of policies during the campaign, he treats women
without respect, he skips out paying hard-working people, he's a
dangerous narcissist, he's racist, he's a habitual liar, he's going to
leave millions without healthcare, he's suspected of having unethical
ties with Russia, he offends and insults patriots, and he'll probably
throw us into a world war because of a temper tantrum.
The only positive thing I can say about him is that he supports same-sex marriage--at least there's that.
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Re: March for Women
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Kellyanne a "rock star"?
To whom?
People intensely dislike her.
What do you mean?
Exactly.
Um, no.
First of all, there's plenty of media...including The New York Post, by the way, who support and supported and publicly endorsed Trump.
Second...the media who didn't support Trump didn't do so because he implied he was against abortion.
They did it because he has no experience, he makes ill-informed, rash,
impetuous, spiteful statements and decisions, he's a bully to anyone he
doesn't like or who disagrees with him, he did not reveal his taxes, he
gave little indication of policies during the campaign, he treats women
without respect, he skips out paying hard-working people, he's a
dangerous narcissist, he's racist, he's a habitual liar, he's going to
leave millions without healthcare, he's suspected of having unethical
ties with Russia, he offends and insults patriots, and he'll probably
throw us into a world war because of a temper tantrum.
The only positive thing I can say about him is that he supports same-sex marriage--at least there's that.
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Re: March for Women
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Kellyanne a "rock star"?
To whom?
People intensely dislike her.
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Some consider Obama a "rock star", some intensely disliked him. Different strokes.
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Re: March for Women
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Originally Posted by on_the_hill
Just curious--is anyone participating?
I'm not entirely sure what it's main purpose is.
It doesn't seem like it would be particularly Catholic-friendly.
If this is already in another thread, feel free to move, or whatever. |
I have been considering it, but I don't feel comfortable fighting
the crowds and packed metro by myself with a stroller and baby girl is
too heavy to wear while walking for so long. DH is not one for this sort
of thing and even if he was, his job precludes public political
activism.
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Re: March for Women
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I bet you there will be a lot of coverage
of the March for Women on all the Cable Network News channels this
Saturday, and almost wall to wall coverage of that event on CNN and
MSNBC but when the March for Life 2017 occurs on January 27th, we will
be lucky if Fox News runs a two minute news segment about it.
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On the other hand, it allows us to keep making headway under the
radar. Sometimes the ignoring strategy is a two-edged sword. I don't
understand the strategy myself. If I were pro-choice, I would rather
cast flood-lights on the March for Life in order to motivate the base.
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Re: March for Women
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Nope, the earlier poster you quoted, and
agreed with, has already corrected their position. The organizers of the
March specifically reject any partners, no matter how committed to
women's rights, who are also prolife.
That is the sacred cause. They will not bend on that, they will not compromise on that, though they will bend, or compromise on any other women's issue.
If Donald Trump took a prochoice position in the campaign, and
everything else he said was the same...and Hilary took a prolife
position, every other position same as what she actually supported...the
media would have supported Trump.
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Yeah, that was me. I haven't seen anything else come out that contradicts yesterday's news.
I talked to my wife about it a bit and she tended to agree a bit
although she isn't against the march (I'd consider her a moderate
feminist, more old school than new). In fact she was reading an article
from a minorities woman's point of view and the author felt that
minorities weren't well represented either. I didn't read that article
so I don't know the details. I think the gist of it was that the
organizers are treating woman as a monolith that all think alike.
I am for women's rights but those rights end when they infringe on
another persons rights. I think the pro-life groups will go anyway. Some
of these young girls are tough, they aren't going to stay away just
because someone told them to.
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Re: March for Women
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Nope, the earlier poster you quoted, and
agreed with, has already corrected their position. The organizers of the
March specifically reject any partners, no matter how committed to
women's rights, who are also prolife.
That is the sacred cause. They will not bend on that, they will not compromise on that, though they will bend, or compromise on any other women's issue.
If Donald Trump took a prochoice position in the campaign, and
everything else he said was the same...and Hilary took a prolife
position, every other position same as what she actually supported...the
media would have supported Trump.
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!!!!!!!
You have articulated what I wanted to say perfectly.
Society did a terrific job in acting like they care about all women. It's scary, really.
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Re: March for Women
Women’s March raises more questions than answers
Media coverage of the Jan. 21 Women's March on Washington will frame it
as an expression of a "women's agenda," but Professor Helen Alvare
claims the reality is that some of the ideas it's likely to express are
good, some are vague, and some are just plain terrible.
https://cruxnow.com/commentary/2017/...tions-answers/
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Re: March for Women
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I beg to differ. Have you ever been to a Catholic Men's conference? If you haven't, I highly recommend one.
Men need to learn how to be real men again.
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Real men do not care about what people like you think a man has to do to qualify as a "real man".
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Pornography, "dead-beat dads," etc. plus even the radical feminist movement have all warped authentic masculinity.
Men need to be reminded how to properly take care of the wives and
children. Men need to be reminded or taught how to be good fathers and
role models. Men need to learn how to not objectify & abuse women,
etc.
There are lots of things that a Man's March can accomplish to help make
sure children have active fathers, and that number of fatherless homes
diminishes.
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So basically the purpose is to remind men just how oppressive and terrible they are and to teach them to better serve women.
That does not address any of the issues men face today.
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Re: March for Women
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Real men do not care about what people
like you think a man has to do to qualify as a "real man".So basically
the purpose is to remind men just how oppressive and terrible they are
and to teach them to better serve women.
That does not address any of the issues men face today.
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Funny.
I didn't read any of it that way.
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Re: March for Women
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Funny.
I didn't read any of it that way.
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I actually though Phil has a great concept for a men's march. And I
did get the idea that men's rights types might not agree. I seemed to
be right. 
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I actually though Phil has a great
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Of course the battle lines would be self-evident. Those actually
interested in helping men have no interest in being berated for not
doing enough for women. So instead of pointing out the obvious, how
about discussing the issues?
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Of course the battle lines would be
self-evident. Those actually interested in helping men have no interest
in being berated for not doing enough for women. So instead of pointing
out the obvious, how about discussing the issues?
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He mentioned being against porn. Isn't that a good thing?
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Re: March for Women
Some of the things said and done at the march are disgusting. Be aware that the following article has some rough language.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...est-Trump.html
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Lovely, lovely stuff
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poem claiming Trump has 'wet dreams' about Ivanka 'his favorite sex
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Re: March for Women
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Just curious--is anyone participating?
I'm not entirely sure what it's main purpose is.
It doesn't seem like it would be particularly Catholic-friendly.
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Here. The women's march and the pro life march overlapped. The
women's march was incredibly pro choice and vulgar and outnumbered the
life march by about six times.
It's sad.
And it's also why I think the time for marching for life has passed.
Nothing changes
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Here. The women's march and the pro life
march overlapped. The women's march was incredibly pro choice and vulgar
and outnumbered the life march by about six times.
It's sad.
And it's also why I think the time for marching for life has passed.
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The March for Life is on the 27th!
http://marchforlife.org/
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Re: March for Women
So is this march for women's rights or is it anti-Trump? I have heard both reasons for the event.
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Re: March for Women
HOW MANY WOMEN at these marches support the sex trafficking of young
girls? Hillary stood by Bill's 26 flights aboard Jeffrey "the
trafficking" Epstein's private plane, the Lolita Express, flying with
underaged girls on board, where there are no laws at 35,000 feet over
international waters in an attempt to become President. Do you support
her ignorance of principle for her own potential political gain? The
mainstream media hides the dirty deeds of their faves.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...n-multiple-lo/
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Yeah I'm pretty glad I didn't go. Apparently the streets are full it's
hard to move, and the stuff people are saying is pretty vulgar and
crass. I think we can do better than lowering ourselves to the level of
Trump's Twitter account.
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Yeah I'm pretty glad I didn't go.
Apparently the streets are full it's hard to move, and the stuff people
are saying is pretty vulgar and crass. I think we can do better than
lowering ourselves to the level of Trump's Twitter account.
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If you follow any of these celebrities, it's clear that they were at this level long before Trump's twitter blew up.
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Millions of women and friends of women. Have you seen the pictures from
all over the world? City after city - cramming the streets in support of
the rights and dignity of women. Some places - like DC, NYC, Chicago -
the crowds cannot move to march to the key events. They just gather,
more and more, filling the streets.
It gives one hope, as we see a sea of pink hats, that human rights and
respect will prevail. I really do think that the women will not let this
'carnage' come to fruition. So grateful for those who march today.
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It gives one hope, as we see a sea of
pink hats, that human rights and respect will prevail. I really do think
that the women will not let this 'carnage' come to fruition. So
grateful for those who march today.
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The carnage has already occurred and as far as abortion is
concerned, is continuing. But that doesn't seem to concern a lot of
people on the march.
On the flip side, it wouldn't do Trump any harm to reach out to the organizers of the march to see what common ground there is.
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In my city it's today
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Same in my old stomping grounds. The march for life took place at
10 a.m., and the women's march at 1 p.m. (the latter with a lot of pink
hats. And fond as I am of knitting, and of pink, and of kitties--I
refuse to use the term which has become co-opted as a vulgar
epithet--this is one hat that I will never knit, or wear. )
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Millions of women and friends of women.
Have you seen the pictures from all over the world? City after city -
cramming the streets in support of the rights and dignity of women. Some
places - like DC, NYC, Chicago - the crowds cannot move to march to the
key events. They just gather, more and more, filling the streets.
It gives one hope, as we see a sea of pink hats, that human rights and
respect will prevail. I really do think that the women will not let this
'carnage' come to fruition. So grateful for those who march today.
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Just over 50% of aborted babies are female, and in many areas of
the world where abortion for 'selection' is possible the carnage is
closer to 90%.
As I have said, I'll be grateful when women stand up for the babies in
the wombs as well as all the other people seen as in danger.
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Just over 50% of aborted babies are
female, and in many areas of the world where abortion for 'selection' is
possible the carnage is closer to 90%.
As I have said, I'll be grateful when women stand up for the babies in
the wombs as well as all the other people seen as in danger.
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Many are.
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Millions of women and friends of women.
Have you seen the pictures from all over the world? City after city -
cramming the streets in support of the rights and dignity of women. Some
places - like DC, NYC, Chicago - the crowds cannot move to march to the
key events. They just gather, more and more, filling the streets.
It gives one hope, as we see a sea of pink hats, that human rights and
respect will prevail. I really do think that the women will not let this
'carnage' come to fruition. So grateful for those who march today.
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I can't figure out what they hope to accomplish. I don't think
what they are doing is going to make any difference. Better they do
something constructive with their times rather than parading around in
pink hats.
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Millions of women and friends of women.
Have you seen the pictures from all over the world? City after city -
cramming the streets in support of the rights and dignity of women. Some
places - like DC, NYC, Chicago - the crowds cannot move to march to the
key events. They just gather, more and more, filling the streets.
It gives one hope, as we see a sea of pink hats, that human rights and
respect will prevail. I really do think that the women will not let this
'carnage' come to fruition. So grateful for those who march today.
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What rights are Trump depriving from women?
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I have loads of friends who are marching around the country. My Facebook
feed is crammed full of their posts. Two of them are a married lesbian
couple who've fostered and adopted two young boys. They're marching
because they're terrified that LGBT rights will be rolled back. Other
women friends are marching because they fear that Trump's election has
normalized sexual assault of women. Some support PP and are marching
against its being defunded. I don't agree with all of these women and
I've long since given up trying to explain to some women why being
pro-life is being pro-woman. But I respect them for marching so long as
they're peaceful.
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I can't figure out what they hope to
accomplish. I don't think what they are doing is going to make any
difference. Better they do something constructive with their times
rather than parading around in pink hats.
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It seems if one raises a ruckus and gathers enough people, that's considered "success".
It's quite laughable that they masquerade in utero murder as
"reproductive justice" and "women's health". And yet people fall for it.
At what point did people forget to recognize reality and go for saccharine slogans and latest social fads?
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I can't figure out what they hope to
accomplish. I don't think what they are doing is going to make any
difference. Better they do something constructive with their times
rather than parading around in pink hats.
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But couldn't one make the same argument about the March for Life?
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I have loads of friends who are marching
around the country. My Facebook feed is crammed full of their posts. Two
of them are a married lesbian couple who've fostered and adopted two
young boys. They're marching because they're terrified that LGBT rights
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I'm not sure why they think that. Trump hasn't indicated any
interest in doing so. His interests lay elsewhere. Do they think that
because he ran as a Republican?
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Other women friends are marching because they fear that Trump's election has normalized sexual assault of women.
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This is silly, thank you liberal media for promoting a red herring.
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Some support PP and are marching against its being defunded.
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PP supporters should probably be worried. The government shouldn't be supporting abortion and that funding will probably go.
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I'm not sure why they think that. Trump
hasn't indicated any interest in doing so. His interests lay elsewhere.
Do they think that because he ran as a Republican?
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No, they think that because he made Pence his VP.
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This is silly, thank you liberal media for promoting a red herring.
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I don't think it's silly or a red herring, though I think women
should have noticed in many other politicians a willingness to justify
sexual assault before now.
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I can't figure out what they hope to
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difference. Better they do something constructive with their times
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I disagree. Marching, exercising the right to free speech, to
gather peacefully, to speak up for wrongs that need to be righted is a
time honorable tradition, and we certainly note them in our history.
I know people who marched with Martin Luther King, Jr. His speech at the
Lincoln Memorial is considered one of America's finest. And it changed
history.
Women Suffragists who marched on Washington after the Inauguration of Woodrow Wilson brought the right for women to vote.
In 1989, in China, the Tiananmen Square protests became a part of history. Those who were martyred are still in our memory.
Our voices and presence makes a difference. Please don't ever deny
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I disagree. Marching, exercising the
right to free speech, to gather peacefully, to speak up for wrongs that
need to be righted is a time honorable tradition, and we certainly note
them in our history.
I know people who marched with Martin Luther King, Jr. His speech at the
Lincoln Memorial is considered one of America's finest. And it changed
history.
Women Suffragists who marched on Washington after the Inauguration of Woodrow Wilson brought the right for women to vote.
In 1989, in China, the Tiananmen Square protests became a part of history. Those who were martyred are still in our memory.
Our voices and presence makes a difference. Please don't ever deny
anyone the right to protest where we see wrong. Or denigrate those who
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But what exactly are they marching *for*? Abortion rights?
The pop artist Madonna said she thought about blowing up the White
House, and the crowd cheered. Ashley Judd ranted something obscene about
Trump's daughter. The pink hats are euphemisms for vulgarity.
The difference between the marches you mention above and this disaster
is that the purpose of this women's pro-death march is to throw a temper
tantrum because Hillary lost.
The crowd is protesting *something* apparently.
Which is what exactly?
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The pink hats are euphemisms for vulgarity.
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You mean the same vulgarity that Trump used?
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You mean the same vulgarity that Trump used?
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He did use that term. No one is squeaky, and he doesn't advocate for violence against women, a manufactured excuse to hate.
But why "celebrate" vulgarity out in the open?
If the leftists had truth and reason on their side, they wouldn't have to resort to cheap tactics to get heard.
What are they marching *for*? Does anyone know? Other than PP defunding, what are they fearful of?
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Same in my old stomping grounds. The
march for life took place at 10 a.m., and the women's march at 1 p.m.
(the latter with a lot of pink hats. And fond as I am of knitting, and
of pink, and of kitties--I refuse to use the term which has become
co-opted as a vulgar epithet--this is one hat that I will never knit, or
wear. )
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I knit, although I like crocheting more. I have a cat, Peaches. I hate
that term and have for decades, it was considered vulgar before I was
born. The British comedy show, Are You Being Served? used it in a
running gag that always made me cringe.
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You mean the same vulgarity that Trump used?
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You mean in private?
I say a lot of things in private that I wouldn't put on a hat or shirt.
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He did use that term. No one is squeaky, and he doesn't advocate for violence against women, a manufactured excuse to hate.
But why "celebrate" vulgarity out in the open?
If the leftists had truth and reason on their side, they wouldn't have to resort to cheap tactics to get heard.
What are they marching *for*? Does anyone know? Other than PP defunding, what are they fearful of?
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Vulgarity and all manner of rudeness is apparently part and parcel
of being politically incorrect, something to be proud of. If you tell
me a word is offensive, all the more reason to use it rather than give
into the word/thought police. It is as if we've become a nation of 5
year-olds who get a kick out of using naughty words.
Note that I see evidence of this on all sides of any issue. Republicans,
Democrats, Libertarians, Independents, Christians, Muslims, Hindus,
atheists, etc. Here on CAF, although somewhat muted (THANK YOU
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You mean in private?
I say a lot of things in private that I wouldn't put on a hat or shirt.
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Unfortunately, private no longer means what it used to (if it ever
did). And as my mother once told me, if you would be ashamed to have
your gg-grandparents or your gg-grandchildren, the pope, or someone else
read it on the front page, or you wouldn't say it in front of a tape
recorder (aka a 3 year-old) perhaps you should re-think saying or
writing it. It's probably why I never kept a diary 
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He mentioned being against porn. Isn't that a good thing?
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Porn has deleterious effects on men. The only reason the issue
gets any attention is because it supposedly objectifies women or some
such Feminist malarkey.
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Porn has deleterious effects on men. The
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If you follow any of these celebrities, it's clear that they were at this level long before Trump's twitter blew up.
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My own 2cents this march lost all credibility for me when The New Wave feminists and other pro-life groups were disinvited.
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What amazes me is how liberals now constantly talk about how afraid they
supposedly are. I seem to remember one of their idols say "we have
nothing to fear but fear itself" but it seems the left no longer
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My own 2cents this march lost all credibility for me when The New Wave feminists and other pro-life groups were disinvited.
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While I wish they had not been dis-invited, perhaps it was an
effort to protect them. Which also annoys me that people with differing
opinions in some areas can't work together in others.
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To comment would be as unnecessary as would be pointless. All one needs
to do is to look at the long list of participating organizations https://www.womensmarch.com/partners/.
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I hope not.
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I'm not entirely sure what it's main purpose is.
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Abortion.
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What amazes me is how liberals now
constantly talk about how afraid they supposedly are. I seem to remember
one of their idols say "we have nothing to fear but fear itself" but it
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On CAF (and in Kansas) I am a flaming liberal. I am no more afraid than the right were with Obama.
Actually, anytime I get too worried, I remind myself that I have indoor
plumbing, WiFi, live in the best country ever (sorry to those of you who
live elsewhere  ), don't have to worry about where my next meal is coming from, and am allowed to whine about anything I want to whine about.
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Then it would be a women's issue and there are plenty of Feminists without something useful to do as evidenced by this march.
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It amazes me that many protestors protesting Trump I have seen reported,
are so reminiscent of those we used to see in the Middle East during
Obama's Administration in the earlier years, burning cars and things,
riot squads having to be formed and things being thrown at one another.
If Protestors are burning cars, burning the American flag, burning
images of Trump and things like that in their protest of Trump, they are
hardly peaceful and they can hardly liken themselves to MLK and the
like.
I hope this has helped
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Vulgarity and all manner of rudeness is
apparently part and parcel of being politically incorrect, something to
be proud of. If you tell me a word is offensive, all the more reason to
use it rather than give into the word/thought police. It is as if we've
become a nation of 5 year-olds who get a kick out of using naughty
words.
Note that I see evidence of this on all sides of any issue. Republicans,
Democrats, Libertarians, Independents, Christians, Muslims, Hindus,
atheists, etc. Here on CAF, although somewhat muted (THANK YOU
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It's called "vulgar" for a reason. The flaunting of immodesty of sexual nature.
Not something to promote and celebrate.
Has nothing to do with political in/correctness.
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Then it would be a women's issue and there are plenty of Feminists without something do as evidenced by this march.
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I am totally not getting your point.
In my opinion, pornography is bad. Full stop. There is no reason for it.
It hurts those who make it. It hurts those who view it. There is no
socially redeeming value to it.
Perhaps this is because I am female. Perhaps it is because I am Catholic. I don't know.
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While I wish they had not been
dis-invited, perhaps it was an effort to protect them. Which also annoys
me that people with differing opinions in some areas can't work
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I doubt they were interested in their safety.
Feminism Today = Abortion on demand, no exception, no apology.
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Then it would be a women's issue and there are plenty of Feminists without something useful to do as evidenced by this march.
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P.S. because making comments on CAF is more useful. Perhaps you and I are indulging in behavior that is just as useless.
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I stand corrected. Thank you.
That's extremely disappointing. I was under the impression the march was
for all women. I guess everybody's got their sacred cow. It really does
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I disagree. Marching, exercising the
right to free speech, to gather peacefully, to speak up for wrongs that
need to be righted is a time honorable tradition, and we certainly note
them in our history.
I know people who marched with Martin Luther King, Jr. His speech at the
Lincoln Memorial is considered one of America's finest. And it changed
history.
Women Suffragists who marched on Washington after the Inauguration of Woodrow Wilson brought the right for women to vote.
In 1989, in China, the Tiananmen Square protests became a part of history. Those who were martyred are still in our memory.
Our voices and presence makes a difference. Please don't ever deny
anyone the right to protest where we see wrong. Or denigrate those who
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I can't figure out what they hope to
accomplish. I don't think what they are doing is going to make any
difference. Better they do something constructive with their times
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These Hollywood women are so disgusting! I am so fed up with them.
I noticed Maxine Waters there too.
These women do not speak for me. They are embarrassing.
Looks like George Soros and friends are keeping busy!
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These women do not speak for me. They are embarrassing.
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is it safe to say that abortion is the main issue that motivates these
women? It's really sad that in this country of affluence women feel they
have to have access to abortion, while in some countries women are
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They don't speak for me, either
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Wow! Seems to me making that kind of declaration from her feminist
bully pulpit ,wanting to blow up the WH,should have some serious legal
repercussions.How is it these"celebrities" can spew this kind of vitriol
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Wow! Seems to me making that kind of
declaration from her feminist bully pulpit ,wanting to blow up the
WH,should have some serious legal repercussions.How is it
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Wow! Seems to me making that kind of
declaration from her feminist bully pulpit ,wanting to blow up the
WH,should have some serious legal repercussions.How is it
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Hey, it's politically incorrect, which makes it okay, right.?
Btw, I hate this kind of language, whether Madonna, Ted Nugent, or VP Cheney.
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These Hollywood women are so disgusting! I am so fed up with them.
These women do not speak for me. They are embarrassing.
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Born and raised in Michigan, then a New Yorker, and so on.
And, since everyone here says once you are baptized Catholic, you are Catholic always...she's Catholic.
Anything Judd and Madonna said, the new president has said much, much worse.
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is it safe to say that abortion is the
main issue that motivates these women? It's really sad that in this
country of affluence women feel they have to have access to abortion,
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Rather than say "abortion" is the main issue that motivates these
women and men, better to say abortion is the main issue that dominates
the small number of people in control of the media. The protesters have
absorbed the media, and absorbed the media's leading fanaticism, along
with gay marriage. If the media had decided to focus heavily on some
other song, these protesters would be marching to that other song.
In effect, there are 2 churches in the US and other Western countries. The media is one, backed up by higher education;
and the Catholic Church leads the other, backed up by a growing group of evangelical or conservative Protestants.
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Yes. There should be a Men's march dedicated to authentic masculinity.
A lot better than the women's march which has an evil like abortion enshrined as a feminist sacrament. Sickening.
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is it safe to say that abortion is the main issue that motivates these women? It's
really sad that in this country of affluence women feel they have to
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Um, no. It's not safe to say that at all.
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Um, no. It's not safe to say that at all.
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I saw an interview on TV of a representative from the women's
march where she said the biggest fear they have is Trump will take away
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I'm kind of wondering if she may get a visit from the Secret Service.
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I am totally not getting your point.
In my opinion, pornography is bad. Full stop. There is no reason for it.
It hurts those who make it. It hurts those who view it. There is no
socially redeeming value to it.
Perhaps this is because I am female. Perhaps it is because I am Catholic. I don't know.
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brought up the idea of a Catholic men's conference and mentioned various
subjects discussed at them. I pointed out that none of those are
actually men's issues, just a discussion about how men can modify their
behavior to better serve female interests and be reminded of how
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http://nytlive.nytimes.com/womeninth...on-washington/
By my draft research, which I’m opening up for crowd-sourcing on
GoogleDocs, Soros has funded, or has close relationships with, at least
56 of the march’s “partners,” including “key partners” Planned
Parenthood, which opposes Trump’s anti-abortion policy, and the National
Resource Defense Council, which opposes Trump’s environmental policies.
The other Soros ties with “Women’s March” organizations include the
partisan MoveOn.org (which was fiercely pro-Clinton), the National
Action Network (which has a former executive director lauded by Obama
senior advisor Valerie Jarrett as “a leader of tomorrow” as a march
co-chair and another official as “the head of logistics”). Other Soros
grantees who are “partners” in the march are the American Civil
Liberties Union, Center for Constitutional Rights, Amnesty International
and Human Rights Watch. March organizers and the organizations
identified here haven’t yet returned queries for comment.
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I agree.
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And what, exactly, is real masculinity? Is it taking care of your
family, making sure your wife isn't worn out from too many pregnancies
or worrying about how the children will be fed, protecting all women and
children from abuse, teaching boys that women are to be treated as
princesses, making sure that no woman in your community has to struggle
to feed her children (widows and abandoned women in particular come to
mind), punishing men that violate these rules.
I have yet to see men follow these rules. I am sure that there are many
that follow some of the rules. But few follow all, especially when it
comes to those outside their immediate family.
So before a person complains about 'feminists', maybe they should look
to how men in general, treat women. Many women are left to fend for
themselves. Are you there to help them?
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http://nytlive.nytimes.com/womeninth...on-washington/
By my draft research, which I’m opening up for crowd-sourcing on
GoogleDocs, Soros has funded, or has close relationships with, at least
56 of the march’s “partners,” including “key partners” Planned
Parenthood, which opposes Trump’s anti-abortion policy, and the National
Resource Defense Council, which opposes Trump’s environmental policies.
The other Soros ties with “Women’s March” organizations include the
partisan MoveOn.org (which was fiercely pro-Clinton), the National
Action Network (which has a former executive director lauded by Obama
senior advisor Valerie Jarrett as “a leader of tomorrow” as a march
co-chair and another official as “the head of logistics”). Other Soros
grantees who are “partners” in the march are the American Civil
Liberties Union, Center for Constitutional Rights, Amnesty International
and Human Rights Watch. March organizers and the organizations
identified here haven’t yet returned queries for comment.
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Not surprising.GS is not going away quietly. He was so heavily
vested in the last election,all the way down to the most local level and
in spite of his efforts the Republicans prevailed.He has to be pretty
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And what, exactly, is real masculinity?
Is it taking care of your family, making sure your wife isn't worn out
from too many pregnancies or worrying about how the children will be
fed, protecting all women and children from abuse, teaching boys that
women are to be treated as princesses, making sure that no woman in your
community has to struggle to feed her children (widows and abandoned
women in particular come to mind), punishing men that violate these
rules.
I have yet to see men follow these rules. I am sure that there are many
that follow some of the rules. But few follow all, especially when it
comes to those outside their immediate family.
So before a person complains about 'feminists', maybe they should look
to how men in general, treat women. Many women are left to fend for
themselves. Are you there to help them?
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I'm just shocked the Left is approving of such language when they were so against it a few short months ago!
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I'm just shocked the Left is approving of such language when they were so against it a few short months ago!
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That is an interesting point. There has been just criticism, I
believe, of some of Donald Trump's past language... yet the disgusting
vulgarity that was on signs, etc. regarding women and other things at
the Women's March is curious. Why are so many using language which
degrades women? Aren't they claming they stand up for women?
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That is an interesting point. There has
been just criticism, I believe, of some of Donald Trump's past
language... yet the disgusting vulgarity that was on signs, etc.
regarding women and other things at the Women's March is curious. Why
are so many using language which degrades women? Aren't they claming
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It isn't the language they have a problem with -- it's the
advocated action that accompanied the language. I'm routinely surprised
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That is an interesting point. There has
been just criticism, I believe, of some of Donald Trump's past
language... yet the disgusting vulgarity that was on signs, etc.
regarding women and other things at the Women's March is curious. Why
are so many using language which degrades women? Aren't they claming
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The hypocrisy is stunning,isn't it?!?
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Um, no. It's not safe to say that at all.
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Agreed. Of the many I know who protested today, at least 3/4 of
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North Dakota introduced a bill that would allow motorists to run over and kill protesters obstructing a highway.
Given the number and increasing frequency of public protests...laws will change.
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Agreed. Of the many I know who protested
today, at least 3/4 of them were focused on other issues. Nor were they
all women by any means.
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What are these issues?
Because my FB feed was just generic anti-Trump sentiments so I have no idea what the message is...
There's a lot of talk of fear, but fear of what exactly?
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North Dakota introduced a bill that would allow motorists to run over and kill protesters obstructing a highway.
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North Dakota introduced a bill that would allow motorists to run over and kill protesters obstructing a highway.
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According to the proposal, this exemption from liability only applies if it is unintentional.
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It isn't the language they have a problem
with -- it's the advocated action that accompanied the language. I'm
routinely surprised when this is overlooked, though I don't know why I
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Do you mean what was on the Billy Bush tape? There was crude
language on that tape. That tape was disgusting, but he did apologise,
his own wife accepted the apology. Some
people won't accept that, and I'm sure they didn't vote for him but that
tape doesn't explain for example, why there was so much abortion
advocacy at the March of or why there was anti-Catholic bigotry.
I don't believe that most people attended the March to protest the billy
bush tape. I think most were they because they don't like Trump, they
are upset that he is President, they are upset that he could do away
with Planned Parenthood funding, appoint a conservative justice to the
Supreme Court, do away with environmental regulations etc.
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I'm just shocked the Left is approving of such language when they were so against it a few short months ago!
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What does that have to do with how men treat women, which is what my post was about?
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The hypocrisy is stunning,isn't it?!?
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Not really. People in general are hypocritical. And the right just
as much as the left. Or were you as incensed over VP Cheney using the
same word Madonna used?
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