Leaked Hillary Clinton emails show U.S. allies Saudi Arabia and Qatar supported ISIS

Oct 17, '16, 7:22 pm

Dwyer Regular Member   Join Date: February 26, 2007 Posts: 1,361 Religion: Byzantine Catholic

Leaked Hillary Clinton emails show U.S. allies Saudi Arabia and Qatar supported ISIS Quote: A recently leaked 2014 email from Hillary Clinton acknowledges, citing Western intelligence sources, that the U.S.-backed regimes in Saudi Arabia and Qatar have supported ISIS . . . Another newly released email, from January 2016, includes an excerpt from a private October 2013 speech in which Clinton acknowledged that “the Saudis have exported more extreme ideology than any other place on earth over the course of the last 30 years” . . . U.S. officials and many analysts and news reports have long denied that the Saudi and Qatari monarchies have supported ISIS, instead claiming the support was coming from rich donors in those countries. U.S. officials told CBS in September 2014 that wealthy “angel investors” in Qatar and other Gulf states were sending money to ISIS. The leaked August 2014 email, however, shows that Western intelligence sources knew the regimes themselves were providing support to the Islamic State. http://www.salon.com/2016/10/11/leaked-hillary-clinton-emails-show-u-s-allies-saudi-arabia-and-qatar-supported-isis/ We defended them during Desert Storm. Stabbed in the back by our Gulf "pals". __________________ "It's a free country; you can say whatever you want." --Old American Saying (U.S. Postal Service stamp-- from 1977 Americana series which extols freedom of speech and features a Speaker's Stand decorated with an American Flag shield.)

#2   Oct 17, '16, 7:51 pm

Thorolfr Regular Member   Join Date: November 4, 2014 Posts: 5,628 Religion: Lutheran (ELCA)

Re: Leaked Hillary Clinton emails show U.S. allies Saudi Arabia and Qatar supported ISIS Quote: Originally Posted by Dwyer http://www.salon.com/2016/10/11/leaked-hillary-clinton-emails-show-u-s-allies-saudi-arabia-and-qatar-supported-isis/ We defended them during Desert Storm. Stabbed in the back by our Gulf "pals". If Saudi Arabia and Qatar have supported ISIS, they have probably come to regret it since I'm sure that ISIS would like to overthrow the monarchies in those countries if they could.

#3   Oct 17, '16, 8:24 pm

7 Sorrows Forum Elder Greeter Prayer Warrior Forum Supporter Book Club Member   Join Date: September 23, 2008 Posts: 43,882 Religion: Catholic

Re: Leaked Hillary Clinton emails show U.S. allies Saudi Arabia and Qatar supported ISIS I believe they both contributed to the Clinton Foundation also. __________________ You created every part of me; you put me together in my mother's womb. (13) when I was growing there in secret, you knew that I was there----you saw me before I was born. (15) ~~~Psalm 139

#4   Oct 17, '16, 9:11 pm

po18guy Forum Elder   Join Date: April 18, 2007 Posts: 26,636 Religion: Catholic

Re: Leaked Hillary Clinton emails show U.S. allies Saudi Arabia and Qatar supported ISIS (In best Gilbert Gottfried voice) "Why am I not surprised? __________________ I say what I have to say and move on. If you have a question, kindly send a private message. 3X cancer survivor: 1) Peripheral T-Cell Lymphoma Not Otherwise Specified, 2) Angioimmunoblastic T-Cell Lymphoma, and 3) Myelodysplastic Syndrome. How? Eucharist, Anointing, Prayer. Moderator www.cancerforums.net

#5   Oct 17, '16, 9:13 pm

Tomdstone Banned   Join Date: January 21, 2013 Posts: 11,614 Religion: other

Re: Leaked Hillary Clinton emails show U.S. allies Saudi Arabia and Qatar supported ISIS ISIS has all kinds of American weapons and uniforms.

#6   Oct 18, '16, 6:23 am

Beryllos Senior Member   Join Date: May 23, 2013 Posts: 7,041 Religion: Catholic

Re: Leaked Hillary Clinton emails show U.S. allies Saudi Arabia and Qatar supported ISIS No surprise that they are funding ISIS (and have funded al Qaeda, etc.). I hear that religious extremism runs deep within Saudi Arabian culture. We treated them as friends because we needed the oil. Hopefully that dependence is coming to an end.

#7   Oct 18, '16, 6:24 am

Monte RCMS Forum Master   Join Date: November 9, 2008 Posts: 14,658 Religion: Roman Catholic

Re: Leaked Hillary Clinton emails show U.S. allies Saudi Arabia and Qatar supported ISIS Yesterday, Trump gave a talk at Green Bay, Wisconsin and he said that one of his first acts as President is to push for banning lobbying by foreign governments. "Redress of grievances" is a Constitutional protection for American citizens. [That is lobbying.] But there is no protection for foreign governments to use foreign money for those purposes. Trump's talk at Green Bay on October 17th was excellent. He also wants a five year ban on government employees working as lobbyists. He would start with an Executive Order and then ask Congress to put it into law, so it could not be bypassed by another Executive Order. [Apparently, Bill Clinton used an executive order ... and then apparently rescinded it.] __________________ Come, Holy Ghost, fill the hearts of thy faithful and kindle in them the fire of Thy Divine Love. Send forth Your Spirit, and they shall be created. And You will renew the face of the earth.

#8   Oct 18, '16, 8:05 am

petra22 Regular Member Prayer Warrior   Join Date: June 22, 2010 Posts: 5,048 Religion: Catholic

Re: Leaked Hillary Clinton emails show U.S. allies Saudi Arabia and Qatar supported ISIS Quote: Originally Posted by Monte RCMS Yesterday, Trump gave a talk at Green Bay, Wisconsin and he said that one of his first acts as President is to push for banning lobbying by foreign governments. "Redress of grievances" is a Constitutional protection for American citizens. [That is lobbying.] But there is no protection for foreign governments to use foreign money for those purposes. Trump's talk at Green Bay on October 17th was excellent. He also wants a five year ban on government employees working as lobbyists. He would start with an Executive Order and then ask Congress to put it into law, so it could not be bypassed by another Executive Order. [Apparently, Bill Clinton used an executive order ... and then apparently rescinded it.] __________________ God would not vouchsafe you the desire to be the Victim of His Merciful Love,were this not a favor in store...God never inspires a longing which He cannot fulfill. --St. Therese of Lisieux (Autobiography)

#9   Oct 18, '16, 9:16 am

Ridgerunner Forum Elder   Join Date: September 10, 2006 Posts: 36,714 Religion: Catholic

Re: Leaked Hillary Clinton emails show U.S. allies Saudi Arabia and Qatar supported ISIS Quote: Originally Posted by Thorolfr If Saudi Arabia and Qatar have supported ISIS, they have probably come to regret it since I'm sure that ISIS would like to overthrow the monarchies in those countries if they could. Wanting to doesn't mean they could. When Obama and Clinton abandoned Iraq to be a battleground between Iran and Sunni, there was no Sunni force other than ISIS and other radical groups. It's perfidious for Saudi Arabia and Qatar to support ISIS. But they were probably aware (as our government was not) that ISIS is actually a weak force, not a strong one. It appears ISIS was, to some extent, mercenaries for Saudi Arabia and Qatar in the war with Iran. And what did they buy when they paid Hillary Clinton millions? Perhaps pretense that it wasn't what was going on. Perhaps her silence on that and a lot of things. Well, the U.S. did provide a lot of weapons to Sunni terror groups too.

#10   Oct 18, '16, 9:19 am

Padres1969 Regular Member   Join Date: October 28, 2015 Posts: 5,291 Religion: Episcopalian

Re: Leaked Hillary Clinton emails show U.S. allies Saudi Arabia and Qatar supported ISIS Quote: Originally Posted by Thorolfr If Saudi Arabia and Qatar have supported ISIS, they have probably come to regret it since I'm sure that ISIS would like to overthrow the monarchies in those countries if they could. True. I'm sure at first the Saudis saw fellow Wahhabist/Salafists attempting to establish themselves (not unlike how the Saudis themselves first came to power). But ISIL is so much more than just a Wahhabist/Salafist organization when it comes down to it. They're the doomsday cult version of that theology who want to watch the world burn. That said, getting in bed with the devil by mistake is not a unique trait to the Saudis and Qataris if this is true. The US made the same mistake in the 80's with what became Al Qaeda and the Taliban.

#11   Oct 18, '16, 10:47 am

Ridgerunner Forum Elder   Join Date: September 10, 2006 Posts: 36,714 Religion: Catholic

Re: Leaked Hillary Clinton emails show U.S. allies Saudi Arabia and Qatar supported ISIS Quote: Originally Posted by Padres1969 True. I'm sure at first the Saudis saw fellow Wahhabist/Salafists attempting to establish themselves (not unlike how the Saudis themselves first came to power). But ISIL is so much more than just a Wahhabist/Salafist organization when it comes down to it. They're the doomsday cult version of that theology who want to watch the world burn. That said, getting in bed with the devil by mistake is not a unique trait to the Saudis and Qataris if this is true. The US made the same mistake in the 80's with what became Al Qaeda and the Taliban. Not to mention our present aid and cooperation with Iran's mullahs, whose version of Shia is a doomsday cult as well.

#12   Oct 18, '16, 11:36 am

gus Regular Member   Join Date: September 24, 2004 Posts: 1,018 Religion: catholic

Re: Leaked Hillary Clinton emails show U.S. allies Saudi Arabia and Qatar supported ISIS Quote: Originally Posted by Padres1969 True. I'm sure at first the Saudis saw fellow Wahhabist/Salafists attempting to establish themselves (not unlike how the Saudis themselves first came to power). But ISIL is so much more than just a Wahhabist/Salafist organization when it comes down to it. They're the doomsday cult version of that theology who want to watch the world burn. That said, getting in bed with the devil by mistake is not a unique trait to the Saudis and Qataris if this is true. The US made the same mistake in the 80's with what became Al Qaeda and the Taliban. It's undeniable that ISiS grew out of the anti-Assad rebellion supported by the Saudi and the Obama administration. Hillary''s attemp to blame the Russians for Syria is a joke as they didn'5 enter the conflict until well after the rise of ISiS. We sponsored a revolt that a large factor became even more radical and then blame the chaos on the Russians, nice going Hillary __________________ "Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashionable". G.K. Chesterton ILN 1930

#13   Oct 18, '16, 11:46 am

Ridgerunner Forum Elder   Join Date: September 10, 2006 Posts: 36,714 Religion: Catholic

Re: Leaked Hillary Clinton emails show U.S. allies Saudi Arabia and Qatar supported ISIS Quote: Originally Posted by gus It's undeniable that ISiS grew out of the anti-Assad rebellion supported by the Saudi and the Obama administration. Hillary''s attemp to blame the Russians for Syria is a joke as they didn'5 enter the conflict until well after the rise of ISiS. We sponsored a revolt that a large factor became even more radical and then blame the chaos on the Russians, nice going Hillary Just a minor detail. ISIS was born out of Al Quaeda in Iraq. ISIS broke off over killing Shiites. ISIS wanted to do that, A.Q. did not. But the U.S. had pretty much made Iraq a losing situation for both ISIS and A.Q., so ISIS left and put its efforts into Syria. When the U.S. abandoned Iraq, ISIS further consolidated its grip in Syria and then went back into Iraq as well. The Russians are not good guys in this. But they waited for three years to see if we would do anything in Syria. We didn't, so then Russia committed a lot of resources in support of Assad. Forces friendly to Iran are taking over Iraq with the help of our "boots on the ground" and our air force. Two vacuums. Russia and Iranian proxies filled one and Iran is filling the other.