Re: FBI Director Comey says agency won’t recommend charges over Clinton email
The fact that this issue was re-raised to begin with was silly. Not
surprised nothing is coming out of it. Clinton is far from perfect, and
certainly wasn't my first or even second choice, but there exists a
caricature of "Hillary Clinton" out there that some people are
determined to cling to, no matter what.
I'm more concerned about Wednesday morning, when millions of Trump
supporters wake up to the realization that Trump lost. Then comes the
rioting and violence, because Trump has convinced them that the only
possible way he loses is by cheating....which is comical when you
consider who this guy is.
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Chicago is only one example of inner city murder skyrocketing.
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Has been since the days of Al Capone. Why do you keep posting this? What's the connection to the topic at hand?
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Possibly Clinton borrowed a DeLorean and popped back there, considering
how bizarre the US election cycle has got this time around I would not
put it past someone to throw that in as a charge against her.
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Re: FBI Director Comey says agency won’t recommend charges over Clinton email
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Those issues are relevant to Catholic
voters indeed. However simply because they are and run counter to
Catholic morality does not mean they can be pulled in at all times (as
is becoming tiresomely the case) on all threads whether relevant or not
to the issues under discussion It risks devaluing g the issue and the
evil of abortion that whatever is under discussion abortion is thrown in
whether relevant or irrelevant in such threads.
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Hillary Clinton's ONLY strength on her resume is that she has a lot of experience.
THE PROBLEM is that ALL of her experience is NEGATIVE.
So, for the benefit of those people for whom abortion is not a negative
and for whom lying under oath is not a problem, it becomes important to
remind people that there are more than a dozen actual issues at stake in
this election.
Fourteen issues:
Go back to the basic issues.
Let us not be distracted by accusations that all of a sudden come out of
nowhere just a few days before a major national election.
Keep visualizing the porous border, no more NRA. and much higher taxes.
1) Supreme Court Justices ... left wing appointees would permanently tilt the United States to the left.
2) Southern Border is porous ... right now there is no one stopping the
flood of undocumented people AND HEROIN entering the United States.
Hillary believes in open borders. Her good friend and supporter, George
Soros is a firm supporter of open borders. Trump has been endorsed by
Border Patrol and ICE. Immigration and Customs Enforcement
3) The U. S. tax structure is the worst in the developed world. High tax rates discourage investment in jobs and facilities.
4) Veterans are getting terrible treatment from the Veterans
Administration. Trump has a many years record and reputation of actively
supporting veterans.
5) U.S. Foreign Policy is a disaster. [Most recent example: $400
>$1200+ MILLION in CASH flown to Iran under conditions of secrecy.
If it was legitimate, they would do an electronic transfer. And that's
just the latest.]
6) Radical Islamic Terrorism is uncontested.
7) Second Amendment. Gun control only controls law abiding citizens.
Inner city crime and gang crime and black-on-black crime is/are
epidemic. Getting worse and worse.
8) The economy. Record numbers of people on food stamps. People forced
into part-time work owing to restrictions by government controlled
medical legislation. Make participation in government controlled medical
to be optional: if you can find a better and/or cheaper plan then take
it.
9) Restrictions on religion. Freedom of Worship instead of freedom of
religion. Mandatory Islam lessons in schools [as now in places]
[Example: Why should the Little Sisters of the Poor be forced to
purchase contraception?] [Example: Why should someone who posted
dissection of aborted babies be prosecuted? Remember David Daleiden.]
... read p37 0f the DNC platform.
https://www.demconvention.com/wp-con...6-no-lines.pdf
10) Education: The United States ranks around 27th in math. WHY????
Cursive handwriting is being removed ! Education SHOULD be controlled by
states and communities ... there should be NO Federal control over
education. Trump encourages inner city charter schools. Especially for
African American students to improve their educational results. Inner
city graduation rates and reading performance are terrible. See "Con
Job", below.
11) U.S. Military is not being kept up to date. Navy is behind in
technology and numbers and readiness. Aircraft are kept going using
parts from the boneyard instead of buying new stuff. Troops are not
training enough. Focus is on social changes instead of on training.
12) Continued inner city collapse. In 1965, 24 percent of black infants
were born to single mothers. In 2013, 72 percent of black infants were
born to single mothers. Source: page 157, "Con Job" by Crystal Wright.
"Con Job -- How Democrats Gave Us Crime, Sanctuary Cities, Abortion
Profiteering, and Racial Division". Crystal Wright's Web site is www.conservativeblackchick.com
Police are being targeted by Black Lives Matter and BLM leadership
visits the White House and is entertained by the current President.
George Soros puts up money for BLM.
Chicago is only one example of inner city murder skyrocketing.
13) "Clinton Cash" ... How did Hillary Clinton, who was Secretary of
State, turn a modest government salary into personal assets of around
$300,000,000.
14) Haiti:
Speaking of Secretary Clinton, she has been involved in Haiti since at
least 2010 .... we have a thread here on Catholic Answers Forums about
that in 2010 ... , and yet with all the billions, there have been NO
IMPROVEMENTS ... Hurricanes come and go, and yet the situation of the
people of Haiti does not improve. You would think that by now, Secretary
Clinton would have made some basic improvements ... you know storm
drainage and paved roads and some actual drinkable water and houses made
of something better than cardboard [such as ferrocement].
But, no.
Do you want your neighborhood controlled by large numbers of
military-age unvetted men? Who are officially considered as refugees?
So, decide what is more important.
These dozen or so issues discussed by a non-politician who built up a
company with more than 20,000 employees and his own Boeing 757 airliner
he uses for travel and a lifetime of anonymous philanthropy. OR free
college from a career politician who has a history of doing nothing for
30 years.
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The fact that this issue was re-raised to
begin with was silly. Not surprised nothing is coming out of it.
Clinton is far from perfect, and certainly wasn't my first or even
second choice, but there exists a caricature of "Hillary Clinton" out
there that some people are determined to cling to, no matter what.
I'm more concerned about Wednesday morning, when millions of Trump
supporters wake up to the realization that Trump lost. Then comes the
rioting and violence, because Trump has convinced them that the only
possible way he loses is by cheating....which is comical when you
consider who this guy is.
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the mob's insanity.
All that it demonstrates
is inhumanity.
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In the USA and UK, representative democracy is steadily degenerating into mobocracy.
I strongly feel that 2016 will go down in history as a
"point-of-no-return" year, a crossing of the Rubicon. Once proud and
stable democracies are in the process of being singularly humiliated
before the eyes of authoritarian regimes abroad, the medias of which
countries are gladly lapping up the crumbling edifice of Western
exceptionalism and self-pride. I should think I'll need to dust off my
copy of Oswald Spengler's Decline of the West and give it further consideration.
Its like the French Revolution, Robespierre and the Reign of Terror all
over again. Who will be the next so-called "establishment figure" for
the chopping block? The next effigy to be burnt in the bonfire? Whose
head will roll next from the ranting and raving of populist demagogues
exploiting the grievances of their devoted masses and inciting them to
rioting?
Over here in Britain.....
http://metro.co.uk/2016/11/06/farage...iller-6238634/
Quote:
Farage warns of ‘riots’ over Brexit ruling in clash with Gina Miller
Nigel Farage today warned of ‘riots in the streets’ over the High
Court’s Brexit ruling in a live TV clash with the woman behind the legal
challenge.
In a heated debate over Thursday’s High Court ruling, Farage accused
Gina Miller of ‘stirring up the biggest political upset’ the UK has even
seen, and warned there could be chaos if the people’s vote is not
honoured.
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I speak in hyperbole of course but there are deeply concerning problems afflicting our societies right now.
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Has been since the days of Al Capone. Why do you keep posting this? What's the connection to the topic at hand?
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BECAUSE the Democrats have controlled the inner cities for nearly 100
years and nothing has improved EXCEPT where Rudy Giuliani applied
scientific policing.
AND because Chicago, Barack Obama's home town, is now the murder capital
of the world ... the land of the gang bangers and whose mayor, Rahm
Emanuel, is Barack Obama's best friend.
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Re: FBI Director Comey says agency won’t recommend charges over Clinton email
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Originally Posted by Monte RCMS
Hillary Clinton's ONLY strength on her resume is that she has a lot of experience.
THE PROBLEM is that ALL of her experience is NEGATIVE.
So, for the benefit of those people for whom abortion is not a negative
and for whom lying under oath is not a problem, it becomes important to
remind people that there are more than a dozen actual issues at stake in
this election.
Fourteen issues:
Go back to the basic issues.
Let us not be distracted by accusations that all of a sudden come out of
nowhere just a few days before a major national election.
Keep visualizing the porous border, no more NRA. and much higher taxes.
1) Supreme Court Justices ... left wing appointees would permanently tilt the United States to the left.
2) Southern Border is porous ... right now there is no one stopping the
flood of undocumented people AND HEROIN entering the United States.
Hillary believes in open borders. Her good friend and supporter, George
Soros is a firm supporter of open borders. Trump has been endorsed by
Border Patrol and ICE. Immigration and Customs Enforcement
3) The U. S. tax structure is the worst in the developed world. High tax rates discourage investment in jobs and facilities.
4) Veterans are getting terrible treatment from the Veterans
Administration. Trump has a many years record and reputation of actively
supporting veterans.
5) U.S. Foreign Policy is a disaster. [Most recent example: $400
>$1200+ MILLION in CASH flown to Iran under conditions of secrecy.
If it was legitimate, they would do an electronic transfer. And that's
just the latest.]
6) Radical Islamic Terrorism is uncontested.
7) Second Amendment. Gun control only controls law abiding citizens.
Inner city crime and gang crime and black-on-black crime is/are
epidemic. Getting worse and worse.
8) The economy. Record numbers of people on food stamps. People forced
into part-time work owing to restrictions by government controlled
medical legislation. Make participation in government controlled medical
to be optional: if you can find a better and/or cheaper plan then take
it.
9) Restrictions on religion. Freedom of Worship instead of freedom of
religion. Mandatory Islam lessons in schools [as now in places]
[Example: Why should the Little Sisters of the Poor be forced to
purchase contraception?] [Example: Why should someone who posted
dissection of aborted babies be prosecuted? Remember David Daleiden.]
... read p37 0f the DNC platform.
https://www.demconvention.com/wp-con...6-no-lines.pdf
10) Education: The United States ranks around 27th in math. WHY????
Cursive handwriting is being removed ! Education SHOULD be controlled by
states and communities ... there should be NO Federal control over
education. Trump encourages inner city charter schools. Especially for
African American students to improve their educational results. Inner
city graduation rates and reading performance are terrible. See "Con
Job", below.
11) U.S. Military is not being kept up to date. Navy is behind in
technology and numbers and readiness. Aircraft are kept going using
parts from the boneyard instead of buying new stuff. Troops are not
training enough. Focus is on social changes instead of on training.
12) Continued inner city collapse. In 1965, 24 percent of black infants
were born to single mothers. In 2013, 72 percent of black infants were
born to single mothers. Source: page 157, "Con Job" by Crystal Wright.
"Con Job -- How Democrats Gave Us Crime, Sanctuary Cities, Abortion
Profiteering, and Racial Division". Crystal Wright's Web site is www.conservativeblackchick.com
Police are being targeted by Black Lives Matter and BLM leadership
visits the White House and is entertained by the current President.
George Soros puts up money for BLM.
Chicago is only one example of inner city murder skyrocketing.
13) "Clinton Cash" ... How did Hillary Clinton, who was Secretary of
State, turn a modest government salary into personal assets of around
$300,000,000.
14) Haiti:
Speaking of Secretary Clinton, she has been involved in Haiti since at
least 2010 .... we have a thread here on Catholic Answers Forums about
that in 2010 ... , and yet with all the billions, there have been NO
IMPROVEMENTS ... Hurricanes come and go, and yet the situation of the
people of Haiti does not improve. You would think that by now, Secretary
Clinton would have made some basic improvements ... you know storm
drainage and paved roads and some actual drinkable water and houses made
of something better than cardboard [such as ferrocement].
But, no.
Do you want your neighborhood controlled by large numbers of
military-age unvetted men? Who are officially considered as refugees?
So, decide what is more important.
These dozen or so issues discussed by a non-politician who built up a
company with more than 20,000 employees and his own Boeing 757 airliner
he uses for travel and a lifetime of anonymous philanthropy. OR free
college from a career politician who has a history of doing nothing for
30 years.
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Re: FBI Director Comey says agency won’t recommend charges over Clinton email
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Those issues are relevant to Catholic
voters indeed. However simply because they are and run counter to
Catholic morality does not mean they can be pulled in at all times (as
is becoming tiresomely the case) on all threads whether relevant or not
to the issues under discussion It risks devaluing g the issue and the
evil of abortion that whatever is under discussion abortion is thrown in
whether relevant or irrelevant in such threads.
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Here are seven more essential items:
Seven more points:
Watchdog Alleges Virginia Prepping For Mass Fraud…
The state of Virginia has five million voters, but they printed six
million ballots. Sites that needed an extra 700 ballots in 2012
(provisional ones) have been sent 84,000. Other sites are crazier:
“In 2012, Fairfax used 2,500 provisional ballots. In 2016, they received over 265,000. This is ridiculous.”
Still, a thousand illegal voters were registered to vote in Virginia in
one sample of eight localities. Perhaps they’ll need the extra ballots?
Top 7 Charges Hillary Clinton Could Face While President, by John Hayward — Breitbart.
1. Perjury: Did she turn over ALL the work related emails on orders of a federal judge?
2. Obstruction of Justice: Did she destroy evidence?
3. Bribery: Among others, there is the donations from Clinton friends to the wife of the number 3 at the FBI…
4. Pay for Play: Selling favors from the US for donations to the Clinton Foundation.
5. Illegal Use of a Nonprofit Organization: The Clinton Foundation violates the laws for charitable organizations.
6. Racketeering: Former prosecutor Andrew McCarthy observed that Hillary
Clinton’s abuse of the State Department looks an awful lot like a
“racketeering enterprise”.
7. Fraud: Wall Street analyst Charles Ortel has been building a case
that the “Clinton Charity Network,” as he calls the complete system of
Clinton operations, has committed “charity fraud of epic proportions.”
In part, he refers to discrepancies between donor accounts and the
Clinton Foundation’s books.
THERE WILL BE A QUIZ !
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In the USA and UK, representative democracy is steadily degenerating into mobocracy.
I strongly feel that 2016 will go down in history as a
"point-of-no-return" year, a crossing of the Rubicon. Once proud and
stable democracies are in the process of being singularly humiliated
before the eyes of authoritarian regimes abroad, the medias of which
countries are gladly lapping up the crumbling edifice of Western
exceptionalism and self-pride. I should think I'll need to dust off my
copy of Oswald Spengler's Decline of the West and give it further consideration.
Its like the French Revolution, Robespierre and the Reign of Terror all
over again. Who will be the next so-called "establishment figure" for
the chopping block? The next effigy to be burnt in the bonfire? Whose
head will roll next from the ranting and raving of populist demagogues
exploiting the grievances of their devoted masses and inciting them to
rioting?
Over here in Britain.....
http://metro.co.uk/2016/11/06/farage...iller-6238634/
I speak in hyperbole of course but there are deeply concerning problems afflicting our societies right now. |
[Yeah, you're not from around here, are ya.]
Here's an idea: move to Detroit or to Chicago and then write back in a few months.
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The concept of neighbourhoods in general in the US been controlled by
large numbers of 'unvetted' lads of military age strikes me as another
example of what one Irish news forum has started calling 'project fear'.
America has 330 million people in it, the idea that the US will be
overrun by some nascent Caliphate in the making all waving Scimitars and
shouting 'Allah Akbar' is great for bad action movies but bears little
resemblance to reality.
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The concept of neighbourhoods in general
in the US been controlled by large numbers of 'unvetted' lads of
military age strikes me as another example of what one Irish news forum
has started calling 'project fear'. America has 330 million people in
it, the idea that the US will be overrun by some nascent Caliphate in
the making all waving Scimitars and shouting 'Allah Akbar' is great for
bad action movies but bears little resemblance to reality.
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[ You're not from around here, either ... I can tell.]
[My friends who live in New Mexico and Arizona and Texas, near the
border with Mexico ... they could tell you some interesting stories.]
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[ You're not from around here, either ... I can tell.]
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I think that is fairly obvious Monte and not something I have ever endeavoured to hide on the forums.
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[Yeah, you're not from around here, are ya.]
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Most definitely not.
I'm a Brit.
And a disillusioned one at that, with regards to the English-speaking world and Anglophone civilization in general.
If it wasn't for Australia, Canada and New Zealand holding up the fort,
I'd have lost all faith in our once envied cultural integrity and past
glories. How the mighty have fallen.
We're a shambles right now on both sides of the Atlantic. Shambolic state of affairs.
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Most definitely not.
I'm a Brit.
And a disillusioned one at that, with regards to the English-speaking world and Anglophone civilization in general.
If it wasn't for Australia, Canada and New Zealand holding up the fort,
I'd have lost all faith in our once envied cultural integrity and past
glories. How the mighty have fallen.
We're a shambles right now on both sides of the Atlantic. Shambolic state of affairs.
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What's the source of disillusionment over there?
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Re: FBI Director Comey says agency won’t recommend charges over Clinton email
The Breitbart article linked to in post #10 posits that the FBI only
reopened their investigation due to what the NYPD found on Anthony
Weiner's computer. This seems to be a mostly behind-the-scenes series of
battles involving the Obama administration fighting tooth and nail to
suppress what's contained in those "lost" 650,000 emails, which are now
no longer lost due to Weiner's fondness for sexting little kids and the
subsequent investigation into whether he broke child pornography laws.
Obama and Hillary are trying to shift all attention to the Russian bogey
rather than directly addressing the content of the emails, and when
that subject does come up, they downplay it for all they're worth. But
this story should be a far larger news item than the Iran-Contra Affair, Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky or Watergate. In fact, those scandals are nothing compared to Hillary's "email controversy." It's like trying to compare the Titanic to a kayak - the scale just isn't the same.
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What's the source of disillusionment over there?
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It would be a tad ill-advised of me to let my embittered ramblings take the thread off-topic.
If time permits, I would humbly ask that you type the words "Brexit"
"pound sterling" "high court", "single market", "the three Brexiteers",
"Scottish independence" and "EU nationals" into Google and you will get a
sense of the intense polarization, disorder and paranoia that is
gripping the ' Disunited Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland' right now.
We are perhaps a few paces in front of the U.S. at the moment in terms
of national malaise, loathing among fellow countrymen and internal
strife.
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Most definitely not.
I'm a Brit.
And a disillusioned one at that, with regards to the English-speaking world and Anglophone civilization in general.
If it wasn't for Australia, Canada and New Zealand holding up the fort,
I'd have lost all faith in our once envied cultural integrity and past
glories. How the mighty have fallen.
We're a shambles right now on both sides of the Atlantic. Shambolic state of affairs.
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I agree with every word. But I believe we are 180 degrees apart on
why democracy is down the drain. I marvel at the high court stepping up
to "clarify" or "ensure" the lawmakers' burgeoning role in the
misguided Brexit vote, saving the mob from themselves. Where would we be
without them. A page from Obama's Supreme Court. And, no,
representative democracy will not survive in this fashion for very long.
It is being dismantled by high level special interest, agendas. We are
already quite close to the French Revolution. Tyranny of equality,
imposed well being. We know what is good for you.
As far as I am concerned Britain is as Tonto to the US Lone Ranger as
they have ever been. The EU and Obama are as close in spirit as Reagan
and Thatcher. And it is destroying the West.
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Does the FBI train you in speed reading?
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what's contained in those "lost" 650,000
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Is 650,000 the total number of e-mails (both Clinton and non-Clinton) in
the Huma's account, or did her personal account contain a greater
number of e-mails 650,000 of which were associated with Clinton?
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Re: FBI Director Comey says agency won’t recommend charges over Clinton email
Why did James Comey allow speculation to occur for over a week about the
possible indictment of Hillary Clinton to occur? I don't understand it?
By the way, this is very important:
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https://twitter.com/andrewcmccarthy/...67264992264192
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Why did James Comey allow speculation to
occur for over a week about the possible indictment of Hillary Clinton
to occur? I don't understand it?
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That is the million dollar question.
It could make it appear, quite possibly, like an entirely unwarranted
penetration of the electoral process from an outside source which is
supposed to be impartial and removed from partisan politicking.
Of course Trump supports will aver that Comey - praised by Trump only
last week for his intervention - is now "crooked Comey", cowed and
bribed by the insatiable powers that be.
In other words, the mud from his 'bombshell letter' that turned out to
be a damp squid is likely to stick and make an already polarized,
febrile atmosphere even more incendiary (if that were possible).
As to his motives and the reasoning behind them, who really knows? It is
what the respective 'camps' will make of them that matters IMHO.
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Three simultaneously potential scandals
are about par for the course for Clinton in this presidential election.
Can Trump match that? I have every confidence he can. So far he has the
pending fraud and racketeering charges from his Trump University and the
allegations of several women regarding his sexual misconduct. Have I
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No, but you didn't mention that the Plaintiff in the trump
University case tried to drop her case last summer, but Judge Curiel
wouldn't let her, appointing another person to take her place as
Plaintiff.
And the one woman who accused Trump of sexual misconduct dropped her suit. There is no corroborating evidence of any of them.
I would say Trump has not yet matched Clinton when it comes to corruption. Not by a long way.
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That is the million dollar question.
It could make it appear, quite possibly, like an entirely unwarranted
penetration of the electoral process from an outside source which is
supposed to be impartial and removed from partisan politicking.
Of course Trump supports will aver that Comey - praised by Trump only
last week for his intervention - is now "corrupt Comey", cowed and
bribed by the insatiable powers that be.
In other words, the mud from his 'bombshell letter' that turned out to
be a damp squid is likely to stick and make an already polarized,
febrile atmosphere even more incendiary (if that were possible).
As to his motives and the reasoning behind them, who really knows? It is
what the respective 'camps' will make of them that matters IMHO.
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How about a little balance.
Clinton supporters who were praising Comey over his original decision were cursing him for reopening the investigation.
There's been a lot of jersey changing on this one.
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How about a little balance.
Clinton supporters who were praising Comey over his original decision were cursing him for reopening the investigation.
There's been a lot of jersey changing on this one.
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Agreed.
My point remains that what matters is not his original motives - which
no one seems to have a fig's clue about - but the interpretation that
the Trump and Clinton camps will tag onto his actions.
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I'm more concerned about Wednesday
morning, when millions of Trump supporters wake up to the realization
that Trump lost. Then comes the rioting and violence, because Trump has
convinced them that the only possible way he loses is by
cheating....which is comical when you consider who this guy is.
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Those millions weren't convinced by Trump. He only voiced what
millions already believe. Even Democrats don't deny that the DNC aided
Clinton against Sanders. If that isn't "rigging", I don't know what you
would call it. I remember too in the 2008 election at least one heavily
Dem precinct in St. Louis counted more votes than people living in the
precinct, men, women and children.
But I wouldn't worry about rioting and violence if Trump loses, if I
were you. Trump supporters will only be confirmed in their disillusion
with the "powers that be" in this country, and most of it not having
anything to do with voting.
The rioting and violence will occur only if Trump wins, and it won't be
by Trump supporters, it will be by people paid to do it by the Clinton
organization, just as the violence at Trump rallies has been by their
paid thugs.
Those who support Hillary Clinton ought to realize that what is looming
for this country is not violence by Trump supporters. It's the prospect
of the majority of the population being disgusted with the government.
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LOL...and it's dark earlier today...I hope the FBI is looking into
her complicity in turning the clocks back an hour this morning!
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Is 650,000 the total number of e-mails
(both Clinton and non-Clinton) in the Huma's account, or did her
personal account contain a greater number of e-mails 650,000 of which
were associated with Clinton?
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It's not really clear if there are more than the thirty-three
thousand emails Hillary deleted and destroyed among the material found
on Weiner's computer, because the Justice Department is protecting her,
and is trying to run out the clock by suppressing this information, and
by delaying everything as much as possible until after the election. The
Obama Administration firmly controls the US Justice Department, and the
FBI is an agency that operates under the jurisdiction of the Justice
Department. Which suggests this whole FBI investigation is pure farce,
and is all for show, because those agencies are largely
Democrat-directed. But it's interesting to watch the infighting between
these huge and powerful different agencies, because the NYPD is
apparently not so directly beholden to Obama and Hillary, and it's
possible there are some people there brave enough to stand up to the
current administration. That's what I'm pulling for, at least. So, there
are apparently two sides here, the FBI and Justice Department siding
with Clinton and attempting to bury the emails, and the New York City
Police Department, who also have the 650,00 emails, and are supposedly
incensed and disgusted over the crimes they reveal. And of course it
could also just be partisan lies on each side. 
This Daily Mail article is interesting, too:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...00-emails.html
http://www.breitbart.com/radio/2016/...s-weiner-case/
Plus, I'd like to apologize for the Daily Mail link, but this story is
still in the tabloid stage at the moment. As a helpful hint, here's how I
read Daily Mail articles: take the cursor up near the URL bar and then
drag the entire screen about five inches to the right. This will remove
the ultra-toxic column of idiotic, celebrity-related news stories on the
right side completely out of sight. 
Then scroll up and down the article your reading by using the up and
down arrow buttons on your keyboard. And voilà! The Daily Mail has been
defeated; you only have to deal with the filth and stupidity of that one
single article you're reading.
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I agree with every word. But I believe we
are 180 degrees apart on why democracy is down the drain. I marvel at
the high court stepping up to "clarify" or "ensure" the lawmakers'
burgeoning role in the misguided Brexit vote, saving the mob from
themselves. Where would we be without them. A page from Obama's Supreme
Court. And, no, representative democracy will not survive in this
fashion for very long. It is being dismantled by high level special
interest, agendas. We are already quite close to the French Revolution.
Tyranny of equality, imposed well being. We know what is good for you.
As far as I am concerned Britain is as Tonto to the US Lone Ranger as
they have ever been. The EU and Obama are as close in spirit as Reagan
and Thatcher. And it is destroying the West.
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Interesting post, thank you!
I have quoted your post and replied too you on a thread specifically
about the Brexit ruling by the high court judges. Here's a link:
http://forums.catholic.com/showthrea...3#post14268263
This is a fascinating and important discussion but I don't want to derail the thread with my off-topic remarks.
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Three simultaneously potential scandals
are about par for the course for Clinton in this presidential election.
Can Trump match that? I have every confidence he can. So far he has the
pending fraud and racketeering charges from his Trump University and the
allegations of several women regarding his sexual misconduct. Have I
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I'd add the partial birth abortio to Hillarys scandals, for isn't
it a scsndal to put unborn lives on the line! I'm a woman and this is
much worse than anythingTrunp has said or done. Oh add to that the
campaigns hatred of Cstholics and her revusal to apologize for that
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I'd add the partial birth abortio to
Hillarys scandals, for isn't it a scsndal to put unborn lives on the
line! I'm a woman and this is much worse than anythingTrunp has said or
done. Oh add to that the campaigns hatred of Cstholics and her revusal
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States can and have put limits to women and abortions. That will continue to be a states right.
Trump went after the pope in February. Why do you trust him?
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States can and have put limits to women and abortions. That will continue to be a states right.
Trump went after the pope in February. Why do you trust him?
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States are severely constrained in limiting abortion on demand.
The only clear victory was in regard to partial birth abortion bans, and
that was only because of a Republican majority on the Supreme Court at
the time. It's absolutely preposterous to say states have meaningful
right to limit abortion.
If Clinton appoints even one justice, pro-abortionists will run the
Court, and probably even partial birth abortion bans will be "revisited"
and probably overruled.
Trump didn't "go after the Pope". He disagreed with something reported
as being said by the Pope. Trump is a Presbyterian. He doesn't have to
agree with the Pope in religious matters, let alone the political matter
he was talking about, which was immigration.
Here's what he actually said:
"Well, I think his words are beautiful and I respect the pope and I like
the pope very much," he said in an interview on CNN. "I will say this,
we have a country that is going through tremendous problems. We owe $19
trillion. So number one, we can't afford this process."
But at least Trump hasn't set up anti-Catholic organizations like
Clinton has, or called for a "Catholic Spring" to rid the Church of its
"backwardness" and "authoritarianism" like she has.
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This whole incident was handled by Comey very poorly from the start.
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I'm more suspicious of the way he handled it and hesitant to
dismiss the situation as simply handled poorly. By all appearances
...looks like the symptoms of organized crime.
Handled poorly sounds more like a grade/comment on a kindergarten report
card...just saying Americans are too smart for this latest call from
Comey.
Furthermore...Comey is too smart for all this.
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Who would have known?
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Perhaps more snide than even Clinton partisanship would require.
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States can and have put limits to women and abortions. That will continue to be a states right.
Trump went after the pope in February. Why do you trust him?
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In the past, individual states have attempted to place restrictions on
abortion based on the length of gestation, whether the baby can feel
pain, whether the abortion places have medical doctors available, etc.
However the U.S. Supreme Court has struck them all down.
If Trump gets one or more pro-life justices onto the Supreme Court, the
issues could be placed back into the states, making protection of the
unborn more likely.
Trump did not "go after the pope" ... he simply pointed out that the
Vatican itself has a protective wall. [around part of the perimeter].
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I'm quoting something I read somewhere on Twitter:
The Clintons will never be defeated in scandals. They can only be defeated at the ballot.
How true! Tuesday is the last chance to say goodbye to the Clintons.
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Perhaps more snide than even Clinton partisanship would require.
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Fair enough, I've removed the glib comment.
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Here is another good one:
Whatever Comeys around, goeys around....
https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/stat...31066324635648
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This Comey flipflop might turn out to be the honey that draws in the
NeverTrumpers, unites the Republicans. Ryan is fuming. We shall see.
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States can and have put limits to women and abortions. That will continue to be a states right.
Trump went after the pope in February. Why do you trust him?
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Hillary is on the record that you and me, the taxpayers will pay
for partial abortions, and the states csnt, forget the pun, "trump" the
Feds. Everytime they try the fed courts shut them down. And I really
dont care if Trump dislikes the Pope. Hillary camp hates Catholics and
wishes our church will change its mind abort abortion and trad
marriages. If wishes were fishes.
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This Comey flipflop might turn out to be
the honey that draws in the NeverTrumpers, unites the Republicans. Ryan
is fuming. We shall see.
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I don't know what is going on at the FBI and with James Comey, but
I think Republicans are already 90% behind Trump according to one of
the latest polls, but that statement from Paul Ryan might actually be
the first time I've seen him explicitly state Donald Trump's name when
saying who should be voted for by the American people.
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No, but you didn't mention that the
Plaintiff in the trump University case tried to drop her case last
summer, but Judge Curiel wouldn't let her, appointing another person to
take her place as Plaintiff.
And the one woman who accused Trump of sexual misconduct dropped her suit. There is no corroborating evidence of any of them.
I would say Trump has not yet matched Clinton when it comes to corruption. Not by a long way.
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Balloting isn't a court of law. It's what the voter perceives or
cares not to that matters on Nov 8th and up to then. Corruption is just
another word in politics, along with disaster, lie, and the like.
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Trump did not "go after the pope" ... he
simply pointed out that the Vatican itself has a protective wall.
[around part of the perimeter].
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No, but you didn't mention that the
Plaintiff in the trump University case tried to drop her case last
summer, but Judge Curiel wouldn't let her, appointing another person to
take her place as Plaintiff.
And the one woman who accused Trump of sexual misconduct dropped her suit. There is no corroborating evidence of any of them.
I would say Trump has not yet matched Clinton when it comes to corruption. Not by a long way.
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I would not underestimate Trump, but prefer to give him time. Now
that he has entered politics, I think he has it in him to catch up to
Clinton, and his business dealings are chock full of juicy stories,
whether or not all are true.
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Those issues are relevant to Catholic
voters indeed. However simply because they are and run counter to
Catholic morality does not mean they can be pulled in at all times (as
is becoming tiresomely the case) on all threads whether relevant or not
to the issues under discussion It risks devaluing g the issue and the
evil of abortion that whatever is under discussion abortion is thrown in
whether relevant or irrelevant in such threads.
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Uhm...actually, bringing up Hillary's stance on abortion doesn't devalue the "issue" and "evil" of abortion one bit.
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While I don't know what technique they
used for their analysis it's not necessary for all comparison techniques
to read emails to discover to hey are duplicates. Given that to this is
information is digital and that there exist script enabled comparison
tools already it is possible to automate the task.
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That's true. They would have to read them I would think to find
any corruption though. What they said about the Catholic Church and the
revolution they started with groups founded and funded to attack and
intimidate the Catholic Church is enough for me. Had it not been for
WikiLeaks, we would have no news of that, as I imagine the FBI would not
release something like that nor charge anyone over it.
I will be very surprised if nothing eventuates with the FBI regarding the pay to play scheme.
I hope this has helped
God Bless
Thank you for reading
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Those millions weren't convinced by
Trump. He only voiced what millions already believe. Even Democrats
don't deny that the DNC aided Clinton against Sanders. If that isn't
"rigging", I don't know what you would call it. I remember too in the
2008 election at least one heavily Dem precinct in St. Louis counted
more votes than people living in the precinct, men, women and children.
But I wouldn't worry about rioting and violence if Trump loses, if I
were you. Trump supporters will only be confirmed in their disillusion
with the "powers that be" in this country, and most of it not having
anything to do with voting.
The rioting and violence will occur only if Trump wins, and it won't be
by Trump supporters, it will be by people paid to do it by the Clinton
organization, just as the violence at Trump rallies has been by their
paid thugs.
Those who support Hillary Clinton ought to realize that what is looming
for this country is not violence by Trump supporters. It's the prospect
of the majority of the population being disgusted with the government.
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It would seem that he is not averse to a bit of popular street violence.
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Given that the same candidate for POTUS has been cleared once again by
the FBI of any criminality, let us pray Comey's premature announcement
just a little over a wk ago did not change enough people's votes in the
past week's early voting that would affect the results of the election.
That would be a disservice to the election process of our great nation.
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Given that the same candidate for POTUS
has been cleared once again by the FBI of any criminality, let us pray
Comey's premature announcement just a little over a wk ago did not
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That is my fear.
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That's true. They would have to read them I would think to find any corruption though.
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If these "new" e-mails were only duplicates/forwards of the
previously evaluated ones then from the server then they've already been
evaluated.
If 650,000 was the count of e-mails in Huma's yahoo account and *not*
the number of actual Clinton e-mails then there's potentially a much
smaller number of e-mails to be actually be processed. They could
inherit what ever evaluation that the earlier encounter of the e-mails
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I'm quoting something I read somewhere on Twitter:
The Clintons will never be defeated in scandals. They can only be defeated at the ballot.
How true! Tuesday is the last chance to say goodbye to the Clintons.
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Oh man!Do I hope this is the case.They have got to go!Ughhhhhhh
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If these "new" e-mails were only
duplicates/forwards of the previously evaluated ones then from the
server then they've already been evaluated.
If 650,000 was the count of e-mails in Huma's yahoo account and *not*
the number of actual Clinton e-mails then there's potentially a much
smaller number of e-mails to be actually be processed. They could
inherit what ever evaluation that the earlier encounter of the e-mails
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Oh Okay, I thought maybe they got lucky and perhaps found copies of the emails that were deleted/wiped.
I feel a bit sorry for Comey and the FBI, they are really in a 'damned
if you do damned if you don't' situation, so I hope they block all that
out and do their job with diligence and non bias.
Doesn't mean I wouldn't rule out possible corruption with the
investigation though if evidence presents itself, as it's run by people
and some people can be gotten to.
God Bless
Thank you for reading
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The fact that this issue was re-raised to
begin with was silly. Not surprised nothing is coming out of it.
Clinton is far from perfect, and certainly wasn't my first or even
second choice, but there exists a caricature of "Hillary Clinton" out
there that some people are determined to cling to, no matter what.
I'm more concerned about Wednesday morning, when millions of Trump
supporters wake up to the realization that Trump lost. Then comes the
rioting and violence, because Trump has convinced them that the only
possible way he loses is by cheating....which is comical when you
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I understand where you are coming from--though I don't agree with
your point of view of Hillary--but one thing bothers me. Did you see the
video of the Clinton people paying people to create incidents at the
Trump rallies??? Who is it that is pushing the violence issue? Really?
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Given that the same candidate for POTUS
has been cleared once again by the FBI of any criminality, let us pray
Comey's premature announcement just a little over a wk ago did not
change enough people's votes in the past week's early voting that would
affect the results of the election. That would be a disservice to the
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I have had this feeling from the first time Comey said no
prosecutor in his right mind would bring charges.. it was from something
Comey suggested in a sentence that I can't remember the exact
wording... but the gist of it that stuck in my mind was that no
prosecutor would bring charges because it goes all the way to the very
top, the President of the United States. He knew about the secret server
and in fact wrote to Hillary on it... Now who will bring charges
against the first black President? And before you think I was Anti-
Obama all along--it's not so. I wanted him to be a good president. I
worked in a school in NC and watched the faces of the little boys and
girls who were thrilled with his election. I wanted him to succeed, but
over the years I have seen him lie and lie and lie and it seems like try
to tear America down for some reason. Maybe he has reasons, IDK. I'm
just telling how it seems to me. Hillary is going to continue the
downward spiral IMHO... but that's why no prosecutor would touch it. Not
again, Not the President of the U.S.A.! 
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Does the FBI train you in speed reading?
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yes. wasn't this the investigation that would not be finished
until aftsr the election? 650, 000 e-mails? really? Comey seems to have
been threatened with something...?
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I'm quoting something I read somewhere on Twitter:
The Clintons will never be defeated in scandals. They can only be defeated at the ballot.
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that is what I think too. it is up to the voters to put a stop to
this corrupt administration and the democrat party. Hillary will be
worse than Obama.
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That is my fear.
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this decision could also anger more people about how Comey is
owned by the administration just like the IRS and the DOJ and cause more
people to vote for Trump!
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Yes, the Grand Conspiracy marches on!!
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yes. wasn't this the investigation that
would not be finished until aftsr the election? 650, 000 e-mails?
really? Comey seems to have been threatened with something...?
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At first it was thought the review would take longer. But as it
turned out, no. Not by working night and day and using special software.
"From the moment they secured a warrant, dozens of FBI agents worked
night and day to analyze a trove of messages that they thought might
help advance their probe of Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email
server, according to a senior law enforcement official... The agents’
work, at first, seemed endless. They had to use special software to sift
through some 650,000 emails."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...6d4_story.html
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Most definitely not.
I'm a Brit.
And a disillusioned one at that, with regards to the English-speaking world and Anglophone civilization in general.
If it wasn't for Australia, Canada and New Zealand holding up the fort,
I'd have lost all faith in our once envied cultural integrity and past
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Not perfect down here in New Zealand, though I'm glad we have as a form
of government MMP (Mixed Member Proportional voting - as invented in
Germany to ensure that no despot could ever get into power again). It's
messy in a way, but small parties can really have some influence with
their policies and people can feel heard.
Like you, watching the US elections with amazement. Can't really fathom
how these 2 came to be the final candidates - especially Trump.
I am nervous - even from so far away - as to what will happen when the result is announced.
The world watches - agog! 
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yes. wasn't this the investigation that
would not be finished until aftsr the election? 650, 000 e-mails?
really? Comey seems to have been threatened with something...?
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Not perfect down here in New Zealand, though I'm glad we have as a form
of government MMP (Mixed Member Proportional voting - as invented in
Germany to ensure that no despot could ever get into power again). It's
messy in a way, but small parties can really have some influence with
their policies and people can feel heard.
Like you, watching the US elections with amazement. Can't really fathom
how these 2 came to be the final candidates - especially Trump.
I am nervous - even from so far away - as to what will happen when the result is announced.
The world watches - agog!
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Regarding how these two came to be the final candidates ... in previous elections excellent candidates were destroyed.
Illegal foreign campaign contributions were not challenged.
In the case of Trump, only he had the internal strength to persevere. Out of a field of 17 !
Opponents ultimately have had to resort to violence and fraud.
Useful authors include Dinesh D'Souza. He has books and films about the phenomena going on here.
Also read "None Dare Call It Treason" by John A. Stormer.
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Not perfect down here in New Zealand, though I'm glad we have as a form
of government MMP (Mixed Member Proportional voting - as invented in
Germany to ensure that no despot could ever get into power again). It's
messy in a way, but small parties can really have some influence with
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Like you, watching the US elections with amazement. Can't really fathom
how these 2 came to be the final candidates - especially Trump.
I am nervous - even from so far away - as to what will happen when the result is announced.
The world watches - agog!
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What's your primary source of information on American politics? The media?
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Lord helps us all..they got to Comey as well.
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My take: Comey was promised something (cash, power, etc.) if he
dropped the case, then when he realized he wasn't going to get the
payout, he (in a very public way) 're-opened' the case. Then when he
received the payout he was promised, he reclosed it....just in time for
the election.
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It was a set up from the get go.Put it to rest by presumably reopening and examine the emails.We have been duped once again.
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Are you suggesting that George Soros, on orders from the Clinton camp, bought Comey?
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I have come to never be hopeful when they are investigating the
Clintons. There is always a good show of pounding of drums and banging
of cymbals in these investigations but nothing ever happens. She remains
the "Teflon Lady".
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WikiLeaks keeps releasing more and more horrible news about Clinton.
There is no end.
Someone asked "why don't you release bad stuff about Trump?"
The answer is: "There isn't any."
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Either that or threatened with prison. This really makes him look bad though.
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I think it is very worrying and downright
damnable that Comey, as the FBI director, waded into this election 11
days ago by resurrecting Clinton's e-mail issue, only to now claim at
the eleventh hour that it was all much ado about nothing.
40 million or so people have already voted and may have been influenced
by a revelation that has turned out to be no such revelation.
The whole world could be impacted by that decision.
Before that so-called revelation, Trump was claiming the election was
rigged. After it, as the polls evened off, he stopped claiming this.
Now, its rigged again
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There was the now famous "coincidental" meeting of Bill Clinton and
Attorney General Loretta Lynch where by stunning coincidence their two
jets landed and they had an in-jet meeting. And all they talked about
was golf and grand children.
Loretta Lynch has been promised to be able to continue being Attorney General under President Hillary Clinton.
Was there a similar meeting with Comey?
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There was the now famous "coincidental"
meeting of Bill Clinton and Attorney General Loretta Lynch where by
stunning coincidence their two jets landed and they had an in-jet
meeting. And all they talked about was golf and grand children.
Loretta Lynch has been promised to be able to continue being Attorney General under President Hillary Clinton.
Was there a similar meeting with Comey?
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SOMETHING happened twice!
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SOMETHING happened twice!
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Well ... here are a couple of ideas of possible interest:
http://newsradio1310.com/the-clinton...detat-opinion/
The writer is Catholic, by the way.
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that is what I think too. it is up to the
voters to put a stop to this corrupt administration and the democrat
party. Hillary will be worse than Obama.
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I don't know. Maybe gridlock isn't such a bad thing.
The US dollar is still the default currency of the world, the US
military is second to none, the Americans remain the most generous
people, and foreign countries are still investing in the US. If it's not
great now, it will never be.
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I don't know. Maybe gridlock isn't such a bad thing.
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So! You finally read the Federalist Papers!
Yay!!
http://spectator.org/clintons-campai...ber-principle/
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Are you suggesting that George Soros, on orders from the Clinton camp, bought Comey?
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George Soros has bought and paid for HC.He has is money and his
hands on every level of this election.He has heavily funded a local
politician here in Colo.So,yes GS paid off Comey.
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That was a great speech. Making the government work for the American people
again!
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George Soros has bought and paid for
HC.He has is money and his hands on every level of this election.He has
heavily funded a local politician here in Colo.So,yes GS paid off Comey.
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And his hands were in Obama's election also - or I should say his money!
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That misses the point. Congress needs to be involved in the equation.
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Not a huge surprise given intent standard set by Comey in July. Since
intent isn't a requirement for prosecutions related to mishandling
classified documents, I think it only gives ammo to Trump supporters who
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George Soros has bought and paid for
HC.He has is money and his hands on every level of this election.He has
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Did he pay off the Congressional leaders whose job it is to keep the system of checks and balances intact?
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Did he pay off the Congressional leaders whose job it is to keep the system of checks and balances intact?
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George Soros has ENORMOUS political operations.
Please read, read, read:
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/0...vention-226267
http://www.investors.com/politics/ed...-puppetmaster/
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And his hands were in Obama's election also - or I should say his money!
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Indeed! This has been in the works for a long time,even before
Obama.We the citizenry are like frogs in a pot of boiling water. Good
times ahead!NOT
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Did he pay off the Congressional leaders whose job it is to keep the system of checks and balances intact?
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Washington is corrupt,nothing would surprise me at this point.That
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Washington is corrupt,nothing would
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Yet investor confidence doesn't seem to be impeded. Markets up
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Washington is corrupt,nothing would surprise me at this point
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There is a book titled "The Dictator's Handbook: Why Bad Behavior
is Almost Always Good Politics" (which despite it's name is about
several power structures) that makes me think we won't see government
without corruption.
While he used stick figures for his illustrations someone did what I thought was an otherwise nice summary of the book in video form.
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Nov 7, '16, 8:49 am
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Re: FBI Director Comey says agency won’t recommend charges over Clinton email
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Indeed! This has been in the works for a
long time,even before Obama.We the citizenry are like frogs in a pot of
boiling water. Good times ahead!NOT |
If our candidates and heads of governmental agencies can be bought
and paid for by rich billionaires and bankers to push forth their
agenda the government is not working for the
American people anymore. So good times will not be ahead.
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Re: FBI Director Comey says agency won’t recommend charges over Clinton email
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Yet investor confidence doesn't seem to
be impeded. Markets up over 300 points as we speak. Gridlock over the
past six years might not have been such a bad thing.
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Do you ever ask yourself how the stock market numbers kept
climbing while the economy and jobs were shrinking? Does that make sense
to you? I think the stock Market has been manipulated too!
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Re: FBI Director Comey says agency won’t recommend charges over Clinton email
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Originally Posted by Stylteralmaldo
My take: Comey was promised something
(cash, power, etc.) if he dropped the case, then when he realized he
wasn't going to get the payout, he (in a very public way) 're-opened'
the case. Then when he received the payout he was promised, he reclosed
it....just in time for the election.
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My read of this is less conspiratorial (and therefore probably
less interesting). In the days leading up to Comey's decision to make a
statement about an investigation into "new" emails from Clinton, folks
like Guiliani publicly stated he had heard from FBI agents that
something was coming. Comey's statement, I think, was made to navigate
the leak he assumed was coming.
Either way, the man should now be fired. He either can't manage the
Bureau well enough to plug up leaks before they're outed or he made a
faulty decision about Clinton the first time around and tried to reverse
course (and save his reputation) 11 days before the election. Both
possibilities point to incompetence. Unfortunately, it's the kind of
incompetence that could have unjustified ramifications on the election.
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Re: FBI Director Comey says agency won’t recommend charges over Clinton email
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Do you ever ask yourself how the stock
market numbers kept climbing while the economy and jobs were shrinking?
Does that make sense to you? I think the stock Market has been
manipulated too!
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First of all the economy and jobs have not been shrinking. They
just have not been growing very fast. As for manipulating the stock
market, that is exceptionally hard to do. There are real investors out
there making stock decisions. You would have to fool all of them into
thinking the companies they are investing in are doing well. Not just
one or two companies - but the vast majority of them. That takes an
unbelievable level of conspiracy to accomplish that over the long term.
Sure, there have been short-term manipulations based on deception. But
they were found out fairly quickly. Gross long-term manipulation of the
stock market is just another conspiracy theory.
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Nov 7, '16, 9:38 am
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Re: FBI Director Comey says agency won’t recommend charges over Clinton email
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Originally Posted by Monte RCMS
WikiLeaks keeps releasing more and more horrible news about Clinton.
There is no end.
Someone asked "why don't you release bad stuff about Trump?"
The answer is: "There isn't any."
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If there isn't any, then why does Trump refuse to release his tax
returns? And what about all his business shenanigans throughout the
years that have been reported? Believe me, Trump too is hiding
something. I refuse to differentiate these two candidates in simplistic
terms of good vs. evil. Neither one is really evil, in my view, but they
are both speakers of untruth and half truths.
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Re: FBI Director Comey says agency won’t recommend charges over Clinton email
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If there isn't any, then why does Trump
refuse to release his tax returns? And what about all his business
shenanigans throughout the years that have been reported? Believe me,
Trump too is hiding something. I refuse to differentiate these two
candidates in simplistic terms of good vs. evil. Neither one is really
evil, in my view, but they are both speakers of untruth and half truths.
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Again, he is following the advice of his lawyers, not TV reporters looking for red meat!
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Gasoline on a fire.
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