Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day

View Poll Results: Your Presidential Choice Hillary Clinton (D) 25 20.33% Donald Trump (R) 66 53.66% Gary Johnson (L) 7 5.69% Jill Stein (G) 0 0% Evan McMullin (I) 11 8.94% Other 3rd Party 9 7.32% Will not/Did not vote for President 5 4.07% Nov 8, '16, 2:42 am

Stylteralmaldo Veteran Member Join Date: June 2, 2004 Posts: 9,000 Religion: Catholic (Latin Rite)

Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day Just 596 days after Senator Ted Cruz kicked off the 2016 presidential race by announcing his candidacy, Election Day is here. Between working (efforts to make this a national holiday have failed), taking care of children (many schools are closed today), walking the dog (Hillary Clinton has two, Donald Trump none) and voting (don’t forget!), you might find yourself texting and surfing and flipping through cable news channels in search of clues to who’s winning. Here, an hour-by-hour guide for what to look for. All times are Eastern Standard Time, which is only fitting, with two New Yorkers vying to move to Washington D.C. 12 am Voting is already over in Dixville Notch, the New Hampshire hamlet that delivered a 5-5 tie in the 2012 race between Barack Obama and Mitt Romney. This time, Clinton received four votes, Trump two and Gary Johnson one, with a write-in vote for Mitt Romney, AP reported. Election Day has, finally, arrived.... More: http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/ar...n-election-day __________________ Today, I want to be transformed, whole and entire, into the love of Jesus and to offer myself, together with Him, to the Heavenly Father. - St. Faustina Kowalska

#2   Nov 8, '16, 3:23 am

Beautiful Senior Member Join Date: June 13, 2007 Posts: 6,897 Religion: Roman Catholic

Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day I was voter number 3 in my district. 6AM and the line was long and extending outside the door.

#3   Nov 8, '16, 4:54 am

Ridgerunner Forum Elder Join Date: September 10, 2006 Posts: 36,719 Religion: Catholic

Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day In my precinct there is usually one line. Today there were two. Not terribly crowded, but moderately so. My wife and I met on an election night many years ago, so it is an "anniversary" for us. So we'll be watching the returns as we do every year. Hope it turns out well.

#4   Nov 8, '16, 5:07 am

Neofight Banned Join Date: December 28, 2011 Posts: 4,197 Religion: Roman Catholic

Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day What a silly poll...a poll like this on a social network site like CAF is like going into a steakhouse and asking if the customers would rather have a rib eye or tofu!

#5   Nov 8, '16, 5:10 am

gracepoole Senior Member Join Date: June 25, 2011 Posts: 7,044 Religion: Catholic

Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day Quote: Originally Posted by Ridgerunner Hope it turns out well. Of course it won't. Either way, a good percentage of our country is going to feel disenfranchised and distrustful of the new POTUS. A recipe for disaster.

#6   Nov 8, '16, 5:11 am

ManOnFire Regular Member Join Date: January 16, 2010 Posts: 2,339 Religion: Catholic

Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day In 2012, they posted positive rosy early results for Romney, then pulled the rug out later in the process. I predict they'll do the same for Trump. __________________ Before making up your mind, consider the true motivations of the source.

#7   Nov 8, '16, 5:16 am

sweetcharity Junior Member Join Date: January 12, 2008 Posts: 275 Religion: Catholic

Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day My Voting precinct Uses paper ballots. My paper ballot was number 652. When I place my ballot into the votinh machine it registered as Voting number 144. Can anybody explain the difference in the two numbers?

#8   Nov 8, '16, 5:25 am

Ridgerunner Forum Elder Join Date: September 10, 2006 Posts: 36,719 Religion: Catholic

Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day Quote: Originally Posted by gracepoole Of course it won't. Either way, a good percentage of our country is going to feel disenfranchised and distrustful of the new POTUS. A recipe for disaster. If the pro-abortion, anti-Catholic Clinton is defeated, that's "turning out well", to the extent it can turn out well. But I agree it won't be a smooth thing, either way. If Trump wins, there will likely be riots and possibly more shooting of police. The liberal media and the Dems will encourage violence. If Clinton wins, nearly half the population will be totally disaffected from the government and be as passively resistant to government measures as they can manage. And they'll expect their legislators to be passively resistant as well.

#9   Nov 8, '16, 5:40 am

philipl Regular Member Join Date: February 14, 2005 Posts: 1,165 Religion: catholic

Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day Quote: Originally Posted by gracepoole Of course it won't. Either way, a good percentage of our country is going to feel disenfranchised and distrustful of the new POTUS. A recipe for disaster. People act as if an election is like the Super Bowl or some other sports title. But elections make a difference and can affect lives for years if not decades. I rally do believe that if Clinton is elected she will be the last President of the USA as we know it today. Almost 50% of the country will not have voted for her for good reasons. She is not going to represent those people of this country. Those people believe in individual liberty and individual responsibility. Clinton firmly believes an extremely strong central government. Those two beliefs can not coexist! To have a strong central government the citizens of the country have to sacrifice both of those two beliefs. The Constitution as written does not allow for a strong central government. It was written with the intention of preventing a strong central government. It's only government twisting the words of the Constitution and their abuse of power by doing this the government has created a central government. It's now leaning towards an elected dictator. Back to My Point That Clinton Will Be the Last President Of the United States. That She Can Be Prevented from Causing Any Damage of Congress Stays in the GOP Control. Even That May Not Prevent Clinton Thirst for Power. Over the past Eight Years The GOP Congress Has Pretty Much Given and Everything Obama Will Desired. With Her Ability to Select Supreme Court Justices She Can Pretty Much Create An Environment In Which The President Has Supreme Authority. Because of That The Last Remaining Thing That Exist Is a Convention of the States In Which the States Ban Together And Remove Presidential Power. I for One Believe in a Fourth Check and Balance This Would Give the States the Right To Supersede Any Laws Created by the Federal Congress, Any Executive Order Signed by the President, And Overturn Supreme Court Rulings. But What I Suspect Will Happen Will Be There Will Be a Constitutional Amendment Allowing the States To Peaceably Leave the Union. Here Is Facts, We Are a 50/50 nation. Many People Believe It's Time for a Divorce. Folks In Big Cities Think Very Differently Than Folks out and rural America. I Doubt You Can Find Many Big Cities That Vote Conservatively. And in Small Town America I Doubt You Can Find Many of Them That Vote Liberal. But Each One of Them Need to Be Properly Represent In Government. And the Truth Is That's a Divided Government And It Doesn't Work. One of Those Two Are Going to Win the Other One Is Going to Lose. And the Group That Loses Will Not Be Happy With the Outcome. So What Is the Option We Don't Need a Revolution That Just Not the Way We Americans Work, But We Do Have the Ability to Say Goodbye. And to Do so Legally. That's Why I Believe The States Will Finally Ban Together Amend the Constitution That Gives Them the Right To Leave the Union Peaceably.

#10   Nov 8, '16, 5:43 am

chero23 Forum Master Join Date: November 12, 2012 Posts: 15,743 Religion: Catholic

Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day Quote: Originally Posted by philipl People act as if an election is like the Super Bowl or some other sports title. But elections make a difference and can affect lives for years if not decades. I rally do believe that if Clinton is elected she will be the last President of the USA as we know it today. Almost 50% of the country will not have voted for her for good reasons. She is not going to represent those people of this country. Those people believe in individual liberty and individual responsibility. Clinton firmly believes an extremely strong central government. Those two beliefs can not coexist! To have a strong central government the citizens of the country have to sacrifice both of those two beliefs. The Constitution as written does not allow for a strong central government. It was written with the intention of preventing a strong central government. It's only government twisting the words of the Constitution and their abuse of power by doing this the government has created a central government. It's now leaning towards an elected dictator. Back to My Point That Clinton Will Be the Last President Of the United States. That She Can Be Prevented from Causing Any Damage of Congress Stays in the GOP Control. Even That May Not Prevent Clinton Thirst for Power. Over the past Eight Years The GOP Congress Has Pretty Much Given and Everything Obama Will Desired. With Her Ability to Select Supreme Court Justices She Can Pretty Much Create An Environment In Which The President Has Supreme Authority. Because of That The Last Remaining Thing That Exist Is a Convention of the States In Which the States Ban Together And Remove Presidential Power. I for One Believe in a Fourth Check and Balance This Would Give the States the Right To Supersede Any Laws Created by the Federal Congress, Any Executive Order Signed by the President, And Overturn Supreme Court Rulings. But What I Suspect Will Happen Will Be There Will Be a Constitutional Amendment Allowing the States To Peaceably Leave the Union. Here Is Facts, We Are a 50/50 nation. Many People Believe It's Time for a Divorce. Folks In Big Cities Think Very Differently Than Folks out and rural America. I Doubt You Can Find Many Big Cities That Vote Conservatively. And in Small Town America I Doubt You Can Find Many of Them That Vote Liberal. But Each One of Them Need to Be Properly Represent In Government. And the Truth Is That's a Divided Government And It Doesn't Work. One of Those Two Are Going to Win the Other One Is Going to Lose. And the Group That Loses Will Not Be Happy With the Outcome. So What Is the Option We Don't Need a Revolution That Just Not the Way We Americans Work, But We Do Have the Ability to Say Goodbye. And to Do so Legally. That's Why I Believe The States Will Finally Ban Together Amend the Constitution That Gives Them the Right To Leave the Union Peaceably. Bill won in 92 with 43% of the vote. People taught the country would go to ruins if either guy won in 2004 or 2008 or 2012, but the country is still here. __________________ Check out my Catholic Apologetic Booklet. 121 themes/doctrines, 5,200 Bible Verses, 192 pages. English https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B2TE...bFU/edit?pli=1 Spanish https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B2TE...M2c/edit?pli=1 Let others know about my booklet.

#11   Nov 8, '16, 5:56 am

sallybutler Regular Member Forum Supporter Join Date: July 3, 2011 Posts: 3,730 Religion: Catholic

Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day Quote: Originally Posted by sweetcharity My Voting precinct Uses paper ballots. My paper ballot was number 652. When I place my ballot into the votinh machine it registered as Voting number 144. Can anybody explain the difference in the two numbers? Were the paper ballots pre-printed? If so, the poll workers either didn't start with the packet marked one or the packets were distributed across multiple sites and there was only one packet in you city with each number. You would have done better to count how many people had voted at your precinct and compared that to the 144. That is assuming there was only one machine doing the counting. If there was more than one Voting machine, the count you saw probably wouldn't have matched either. __________________ 'Those who consider themselves religious and yet do not keep a tight rein on their tongues deceive themselves, and their religion is worthless.' James 1:26

#12   Nov 8, '16, 6:09 am

ringil Veteran Member Join Date: May 9, 2011 Posts: 9,319 Religion: Catholic

Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day Quote: Originally Posted by Ridgerunner But I agree it won't be a smooth thing, either way. If Trump wins, there will likely be riots and possibly more shooting of police. The liberal media and the Dems will encourage violence. If Clinton wins, nearly half the population will be totally disaffected from the government and be as passively resistant to government measures as they can manage. And they'll expect their legislators to be passively resistant as well. That's a pretty simplistic picture you paint there- of rioting, violent liberals on one hand and disaffected, law abiding conservatives on the other. Very black hat and white hat. __________________ To those with only hammers everything looks like a nail. "tough love thy neighbor as thyself. Get your own loaves and fishes!"- Stephen Colbert

#13   Nov 8, '16, 6:10 am

mommy k Regular Member Prayer Warrior Join Date: August 21, 2012 Posts: 4,597 Religion: Catholic

Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day Quote: Originally Posted by Neofight What a silly poll...a poll like this on a social network site like CAF is like going into a steakhouse and asking if the customers would rather have a rib eye or tofu! Unfortunately some people do order tofu at a steakhouse. __________________ Thank you Blessed Mother for bringing my intentions to your Son, Jesus. Amen

#14   Nov 8, '16, 6:12 am

jediliz Regular Member Join Date: March 20, 2005 Posts: 4,541 Religion: Catholic and Proud of it!

Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day Quote: Originally Posted by sweetcharity My Voting precinct Uses paper ballots. My paper ballot was number 652. When I place my ballot into the votinh machine it registered as Voting number 144. Can anybody explain the difference in the two numbers? Were you #144 to vote in your precinct? __________________ A Rosary a Day Keeps the Devil Away! "More souls go to hell because of sins of the flesh than for any other reason." - Our Lady of Fatima Who will speak for those who have no voice? Life.....what a beautiful choice!

#15   Nov 8, '16, 6:52 am

Holly3278 Forum Elder Prayer Warrior Join Date: April 21, 2005 Posts: 21,702 Religion: Roman Catholic

Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day I didn't want to vote for Trump but I feel like Trump is the best option. I don't agree with him on some things and I strongly disagree with his statements on several issues but I feel like he is a better candidate than Hillary Clinton. I also cannot vote for an independent party candidate because I personally feel like that would be wasting my vote since they have virtually no chance of winning. I haven't gone to the polls yet but I am going to do so after while.  Nov 8, '16, 7:11 am queenofheartscv Regular Member Join Date: January 25, 2016 Posts: 3,399 Religion: Catholic Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day Quote: Originally Posted by Holly3278 I didn't want to vote for Trump but I feel like Trump is the best option. I don't agree with him on some things and I strongly disagree with his statements on several issues but I feel like he is a better candidate than Hillary Clinton. I also cannot vote for an independent party candidate because I personally feel like that would be wasting my vote since they have virtually no chance of winning. I haven't gone to the polls yet but I am going to do so after while.   #17   Nov 8, '16, 7:12 am christofirst Regular Member Join Date: June 23, 2009 Posts: 5,279 Religion: Catholic Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day There's already a huge line and an overflowing parking lot at my polling place, the likes of which I haven't seen in years. I voted by mail already, as I always do, but clearly the controversies surrounding this election are rousing many of us here from what appeared to be apathy is previous elections. It will be interesting to see the turnout numbers.   #18   Nov 8, '16, 7:15 am Al Moritz Regular Member Join Date: April 20, 2011 Posts: 3,024 Religion: Roman Catholic/Freethinker/Skeptic Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day Quote: Originally Posted by ringil That's a pretty simplistic picture you paint there- of rioting, violent liberals on one hand and disaffected, law abiding conservatives on the other. Very black hat and white hat. Especially since Trump repeatedly has incited violence at his rallies. Very reminiscent of George Wallace 1968. __________________ Health is not a consumer good but a universal right, so access to health services cannot be a privilege. Pope Francis   #19   Nov 8, '16, 7:15 am Convert in 99 Senior Member Join Date: April 20, 2007 Posts: 8,587 Religion: Catholic Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day Is it over yet? __________________ I side with Pope Francis!   #20   Nov 8, '16, 7:23 am ManOnFire Regular Member Join Date: January 16, 2010 Posts: 2,339 Religion: Catholic Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day Quote: Originally Posted by philipl People act as if an election is like the Super Bowl or some other sports title. But elections make a difference and can affect lives for years if not decades. I rally do believe that if Clinton is elected she will be the last President of the USA as we know it today. Almost 50% of the country will not have voted for her for good reasons. She is not going to represent those people of this country. Those people believe in individual liberty and individual responsibility. Clinton firmly believes an extremely strong central government. Those two beliefs can not coexist! To have a strong central government the citizens of the country have to sacrifice both of those two beliefs. The Constitution as written does not allow for a strong central government. It was written with the intention of preventing a strong central government. It's only government twisting the words of the Constitution and their abuse of power by doing this the government has created a central government. It's now leaning towards an elected dictator. Back to My Point That Clinton Will Be the Last President Of the United States. That She Can Be Prevented from Causing Any Damage of Congress Stays in the GOP Control. Even That May Not Prevent Clinton Thirst for Power. Over the past Eight Years The GOP Congress Has Pretty Much Given and Everything Obama Will Desired. With Her Ability to Select Supreme Court Justices She Can Pretty Much Create An Environment In Which The President Has Supreme Authority. Because of That The Last Remaining Thing That Exist Is a Convention of the States In Which the States Ban Together And Remove Presidential Power. I for One Believe in a Fourth Check and Balance This Would Give the States the Right To Supersede Any Laws Created by the Federal Congress, Any Executive Order Signed by the President, And Overturn Supreme Court Rulings. But What I Suspect Will Happen Will Be There Will Be a Constitutional Amendment Allowing the States To Peaceably Leave the Union. Here Is Facts, We Are a 50/50 nation. Many People Believe It's Time for a Divorce. Folks In Big Cities Think Very Differently Than Folks out and rural America. I Doubt You Can Find Many Big Cities That Vote Conservatively. And in Small Town America I Doubt You Can Find Many of Them That Vote Liberal. But Each One of Them Need to Be Properly Represent In Government. And the Truth Is That's a Divided Government And It Doesn't Work. One of Those Two Are Going to Win the Other One Is Going to Lose. And the Group That Loses Will Not Be Happy With the Outcome. So What Is the Option We Don't Need a Revolution That Just Not the Way We Americans Work, But We Do Have the Ability to Say Goodbye. And to Do so Legally. That's Why I Believe The States Will Finally Ban Together Amend the Constitution That Gives Them the Right To Leave the Union Peaceably. Progressives won't permit a divorce. Progressives know that an agnostic hedonistic one-world govt. is the only path forward toward world peace. Agnosticism will remove the religious divisions and violence and hedonism will make sex casual for birth control and abortion to stop world overpopulation. It's a No-God solution. On the other hand, Trump tapped into the psyche of the pro-family religious deplorables who want to return America to romantic Mayberry minus the racism, bigotry, spousal abuse, and alcoholism of that period, which would Make America Great Again, but this doesn't create peace through agnosticism and population control through birth control and abortion, so progressives see no successful final solution there. If you divide America peacefully, the conservatives will outpopulate the liberals over time until there's another conservative majority and the cycle begins all over again. They see it as deplorable to act in the name of a God for which there is no scientific proof of existence because that will lead to division, war, population growth where we run out of resources, and no final solution. They believe we're not smart enough to choose progressive thinking for ourselves, so it must be thrust upon us. As painful as it is to admit, I'd rather have a return to romantic innocence for our kids, the end of bigotry and racism, and formal population control than this slow godless descent into individual selfishness. Hopefully that explains the current Frustration. __________________ Before making up your mind, consider the true motivations of the source. Last edited by ManOnFire; Nov 8, '16 at 7:41 am.   #21   Nov 8, '16, 7:52 am queenofheartscv Regular Member Join Date: January 25, 2016 Posts: 3,399 Religion: Catholic Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day Quote: Originally Posted by Al Moritz Especially since Trump repeatedly has incited violence at his rallies. Very reminiscent of George Wallace 1968. Yeah, never mind hillary paying people to cause trouble at Trump's rallies, trump supporters getting eggs on their face, getting rocks thrown at them, roads being illegally blocked off on route to trump rallies. Reality and truth don't matter to hillary supporters.   #22   Nov 8, '16, 7:55 am queenofheartscv Regular Member Join Date: January 25, 2016 Posts: 3,399 Religion: Catholic Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day A shot of encouragement for those who vote against hillary: https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/stat...04887393955840 Gabriel: "Lord, why do you always seem to pick the underdog?" God: "No one thanks me when the favorite wins..."   #23   Nov 8, '16, 7:57 am Saints Alive Regular Member Prayer Warrior Join Date: September 10, 2012 Posts: 1,240 Religion: Roman Catholic Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day Parked at my polling place at 10:19 a.m., voted, and was back in my vehicle headed home at 10:27 a.m. About 50 or 60 people coming and going. __________________ Go Cubs !   #24   Nov 8, '16, 7:59 am signit Regular Member Join Date: October 26, 2006 Posts: 1,523 Religion: Catholic Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day Quote: Originally Posted by Holly3278 I didn't want to vote for Trump but I feel like Trump is the best option. I don't agree with him on some things and I strongly disagree with his statements on several issues but I feel like he is a better candidate than Hillary Clinton. I also cannot vote for an independent party candidate because I personally feel like that would be wasting my vote since they have virtually no chance of winning. I haven't gone to the polls yet but I am going to do so after while. This is a lot like how I feel about it. I am not a big Trump supporter, at all, but I'll be putting in a vote for him today after work. I don't support some of his statements (women, Mexicans, Muslims, veterans, etc.). and there are some things I strongly don't like about his personal life. But all this pales compared to Hillary Clinton and her support for late-term abortions and Planned Parenthood. Especially if she has three or four picks on the Supreme Court. The people at the local Planned Parenthood would like nothing better than a Clinton presidency Also there's the issue of the Second Amendment. She said that the Supreme Court got it “wrong on the Second Amendment” in the famous decision where it found that the Second Amendment is an individual right.   #25   Nov 8, '16, 8:02 am Oneofthewomen Regular Member Join Date: December 12, 2009 Posts: 3,529 Religion: Catholic Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day Quote: Originally Posted by gracepoole Of course it won't. Either way, a good percentage of our country is going to feel disenfranchised and distrustful of the new POTUS. A recipe for disaster. So, no real change, then? __________________ The most difficult thing I have ever had to do is follow the guidance I prayed for. -Albert Schweitzer   #26   Nov 8, '16, 8:03 am Stylteralmaldo Veteran Member Join Date: June 2, 2004 Posts: 9,000 Religion: Catholic (Latin Rite) Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day Update from the city where I live (Democrat dominated politics): Surprisingly easy to vote today in my precinct as the lines were relatively short for a Presidential election. May be an indication of lower voter turnout for the Dems (at least here). __________________ Today, I want to be transformed, whole and entire, into the love of Jesus and to offer myself, together with Him, to the Heavenly Father. - St. Faustina Kowalska   #27   Nov 8, '16, 8:11 am Seamus L Senior Member Join Date: November 22, 2007 Posts: 8,097 Religion: Catholic Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day I voted a couple of hours ago, and the only dilemma I had was who to vote for in the US Senate race. Tammy Duckworth is far left, but Republican Mark Kirk isn't a whole lot better. I realise a vote against Kirk is very likely a vote for Duckworth, but after seeing Kirk on TV yesterday and hearing him boasting of how he supports a woman's right to choose, and same sex marriage, I decided, the sooner this man's political career is over the better, so I voted Libertarian.   #28   Nov 8, '16, 8:21 am 7 Sorrows Forum Elder Greeter Prayer Warrior Forum Supporter Book Club Member Join Date: September 23, 2008 Posts: 43,894 Religion: Catholic Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day Quote: Originally Posted by philipl People act as if an election is like the Super Bowl or some other sports title. But elections make a difference and can affect lives for years if not decades. I rally do believe that if Clinton is elected she will be the last President of the USA as we know it today. Almost 50% of the country will not have voted for her for good reasons. She is not going to represent those people of this country. Those people believe in individual liberty and individual responsibility. Clinton firmly believes an extremely strong central government. Those two beliefs can not coexist! To have a strong central government the citizens of the country have to sacrifice both of those two beliefs. The Constitution as written does not allow for a strong central government. It was written with the intention of preventing a strong central government. It's only government twisting the words of the Constitution and their abuse of power by doing this the government has created a central government. It's now leaning towards an elected dictator. Back to My Point That Clinton Will Be the Last President Of the United States. That She Can Be Prevented from Causing Any Damage of Congress Stays in the GOP Control. Even That May Not Prevent Clinton Thirst for Power. Over the past Eight Years The GOP Congress Has Pretty Much Given and Everything Obama Will Desired. With Her Ability to Select Supreme Court Justices She Can Pretty Much Create An Environment In Which The President Has Supreme Authority. Because of That The Last Remaining Thing That Exist Is a Convention of the States In Which the States Ban Together And Remove Presidential Power. I for One Believe in a Fourth Check and Balance This Would Give the States the Right To Supersede Any Laws Created by the Federal Congress, Any Executive Order Signed by the President, And Overturn Supreme Court Rulings. But What I Suspect Will Happen Will Be There Will Be a Constitutional Amendment Allowing the States To Peaceably Leave the Union. Here Is Facts, We Are a 50/50 nation. Many People Believe It's Time for a Divorce. Folks In Big Cities Think Very Differently Than Folks out and rural America. I Doubt You Can Find Many Big Cities That Vote Conservatively. And in Small Town America I Doubt You Can Find Many of Them That Vote Liberal. But Each One of Them Need to Be Properly Represent In Government. And the Truth Is That's a Divided Government And It Doesn't Work. One of Those Two Are Going to Win the Other One Is Going to Lose. And the Group That Loses Will Not Be Happy With the Outcome. So What Is the Option We Don't Need a Revolution That Just Not the Way We Americans Work, But We Do Have the Ability to Say Goodbye. And to Do so Legally. That's Why I Believe The States Will Finally Ban Together Amend the Constitution That Gives Them the Right To Leave the Union Peaceably. I have been thinking along similar lines in recent days. I am not sure about being able to leave peacefully though. Right now I feel like our government is not much different from Mexico or Russia as two examples. Maybe I have been naive the past 50 years and corruption has always been there, but maybe not as blatant. I feel our country has been very divided for many years politically and it is getting worse. __________________ You created every part of me; you put me together in my mother's womb. (13) when I was growing there in secret, you knew that I was there----you saw me before I was born. (15) ~~~Psalm 139   #29   Nov 8, '16, 8:24 am 7 Sorrows Forum Elder Greeter Prayer Warrior Forum Supporter Book Club Member Join Date: September 23, 2008 Posts: 43,894 Religion: Catholic Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day Quote: Originally Posted by signit This is a lot like how I feel about it. I am not a big Trump supporter, at all, but I'll be putting in a vote for him today after work. I don't support some of his statements (women, Mexicans, Muslims, veterans, etc.). and there are some things I strongly don't like about his personal life. But all this pales compared to Hillary Clinton and her support for late-term abortions and Planned Parenthood. Especially if she has three or four picks on the Supreme Court. The people at the local Planned Parenthood would like nothing better than a Clinton presidency Also there's the issue of the Second Amendment. She said that the Supreme Court got it “wrong on the Second Amendment” in the famous decision where it found that the Second Amendment is an individual right. All good points! __________________ You created every part of me; you put me together in my mother's womb. (13) when I was growing there in secret, you knew that I was there----you saw me before I was born. (15) ~~~Psalm 139   #30   Nov 8, '16, 8:25 am KS Housewife Junior Member Join Date: September 15, 2010 Posts: 157 Religion: Roman Catholic Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day Quote: Originally Posted by queenofheartscv Yeah, never mind hillary paying people to cause trouble at Trump's rallies, trump supporters getting eggs on their face, getting rocks thrown at them, roads being illegally blocked off on route to trump rallies. Reality and truth don't matter to hillary supporters. Bingo! Conservatives generally know that they shouldn't engage in wrongdoings. Liberals generally do, too. So-called modern progressives, however, see their position as the only correct one and they feel free to lie, cheat and bully, as they believe their end justifies the means they use to achieve it. Intrinsic right and wrong is a convenient concept when it serves their purpose to attain their goal, but hey believe they are justified in pushing aside adherence to the concept of intrinsic right and wrong if they perceive it to impede attainment of their goals. Nov 8, '16, 8:34 am Jeanne S Veteran Member Join Date: January 14, 2012 Posts: 10,831 Religion: Roman Catholic Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day Quote: Originally Posted by chero23 Bill won in 92 with 43% of the vote. People taught the country would go to ruins if either guy won in 2004 or 2008 or 2012, but the country is still here. A lot has change n the past twenty years by design ,by the progressive left.   #32   Nov 8, '16, 8:35 am Seamus L Senior Member Join Date: November 22, 2007 Posts: 8,097 Religion: Catholic Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day Violence from Trump supporters has typically been spontaneous with lone individuals overreacting to counter protesters. Violence from anti-Trump protesters has been planned and organized in advance by large groups, as we've witnessed time and again in places like Chicago, Pittsburgh, St Louis, Albuquerque, Salt Lake City, San Jose, Costa Mesa, Burlingame, etc.   #33   Nov 8, '16, 8:37 am tomarin Senior Member Join Date: April 25, 2007 Posts: 7,539 Religion: Catholic Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day The lines at my local polling place were already long (and only two voting machines on offer) at 7:30 when I got there. They were even longer when I finished voting and left. Took about 35 minutes. __________________ If I forget thee, O Jerusalem, let my right hand wither, let my tongue cleave to my palate if I do not remember you -- Psalm 137   #34   Nov 8, '16, 8:53 am 7 Sorrows Forum Elder Greeter Prayer Warrior Forum Supporter Book Club Member Join Date: September 23, 2008 Posts: 43,895 Religion: Catholic Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day Quote: Originally Posted by queenofheartscv Yeah, never mind hillary paying people to cause trouble at Trump's rallies, trump supporters getting eggs on their face, getting rocks thrown at them, roads being illegally blocked off on route to trump rallies. Reality and truth don't matter to hillary supporters. Or getting their vehicles torched or vandalized. __________________ You created every part of me; you put me together in my mother's womb. (13) when I was growing there in secret, you knew that I was there----you saw me before I was born. (15) ~~~Psalm 139   #35   Nov 8, '16, 8:57 am 7 Sorrows Forum Elder Greeter Prayer Warrior Forum Supporter Book Club Member Join Date: September 23, 2008 Posts: 43,895 Religion: Catholic Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day Quote: Originally Posted by KS Housewife Bingo! Conservatives generally know that they shouldn't engage in wrongdoings. Liberals generally do, too. So-called modern progressives, however, see their position as the only correct one and they feel free to lie, cheat and bully, as they believe their end justifies the means they use to achieve it. Intrinsic right and wrong is a convenient concept when it serves their purpose to attain their goal, but hey believe they are justified in pushing aside adherence to the concept of intrinsic right and wrong if they perceive it to impede attainment of their goals. So true! __________________ You created every part of me; you put me together in my mother's womb. (13) when I was growing there in secret, you knew that I was there----you saw me before I was born. (15) ~~~Psalm 139   #36   Nov 8, '16, 8:59 am Michael68 Banned Join Date: August 17, 2015 Posts: 5,225 Religion: Cradle Roman Catholic Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day Quote: Originally Posted by Neofight What a silly poll...a poll like this on a social network site like CAF is like going into a steakhouse and asking if the customers would rather have a rib eye or tofu! No sillier than any other poll being shoved down our throats as news.   #37   Nov 8, '16, 9:02 am StephieNorthCo Regular Member Join Date: May 17, 2014 Posts: 890 Religion: Catholic Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day SIS and I were first 2 at the polling place. half hour before opening. got out about 7:15, and about 30 there. Perhaps 60% wearing red, if that means anything. Praying, Stephie   #38   Nov 8, '16, 9:12 am Finite Regular Member Join Date: November 22, 2014 Posts: 633 Religion: God-believing nonchristian Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day I, for one, can't wait for this election to be over. But I am a little worried about the response from Trump supporters. It seems likely that Trump is going to be defeated today. His most devoted supporters have allowed him to convince them that his win is inevitable and there is no possible way he could lose...so when inevitably does lose, they are going to follow his lead and say everything was "rigged". What happens after that is what I'm afraid of.   #39   Nov 8, '16, 9:14 am 7 Sorrows Forum Elder Greeter Prayer Warrior Forum Supporter Book Club Member Join Date: September 23, 2008 Posts: 43,895 Religion: Catholic Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day Quote: Originally Posted by Finite I, for one, can't wait for this election to be over. But I am a little worried about the response from Trump supporters. It seems likely that Trump is going to be defeated today. His most devoted supporters have allowed him to convince them that his win is inevitable and there is no possible way he could lose...so when inevitably does lose, they are going to follow his lead and say everything was "rigged". What happens after that is what I'm afraid of. oh, really? I am more worried about the left if Hillary loses. __________________ You created every part of me; you put me together in my mother's womb. (13) when I was growing there in secret, you knew that I was there----you saw me before I was born. (15) ~~~Psalm 139   #40   Nov 8, '16, 9:23 am chero23 Forum Master Join Date: November 12, 2012 Posts: 15,743 Religion: Catholic Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day Quote: Originally Posted by Al Moritz Especially since Trump repeatedly has incited violence at his rallies. Very reminiscent of George Wallace 1968. Exactly, but that poster, only sees the problem with democrats. He forgets all the hate and trouble Trump has stirred. __________________ Check out my Catholic Apologetic Booklet. 121 themes/doctrines, 5,200 Bible Verses, 192 pages. English https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B2TE...bFU/edit?pli=1 Spanish https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B2TE...M2c/edit?pli=1 Let others know about my booklet.   #41   Nov 8, '16, 9:26 am chero23 Forum Master Join Date: November 12, 2012 Posts: 15,743 Religion: Catholic Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day Quote: Originally Posted by queenofheartscv Yeah, never mind hillary paying people to cause trouble at Trump's rallies, trump supporters getting eggs on their face, getting rocks thrown at them, roads being illegally blocked off on route to trump rallies. Reality and truth don't matter to hillary supporters. What about Trump saying he won't accept the results if he loses? That's not a conservative thing to say. Aren't conservatives supposed to be mature? If he loses and does not accept the loss, guess how his base, those that "won't turn away from him if he shoots somebody" follow his lead? Very mature guys very mature __________________ Check out my Catholic Apologetic Booklet. 121 themes/doctrines, 5,200 Bible Verses, 192 pages. English https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B2TE...bFU/edit?pli=1 Spanish https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B2TE...M2c/edit?pli=1 Let others know about my booklet.   #42   Nov 8, '16, 9:28 am chero23 Forum Master Join Date: November 12, 2012 Posts: 15,743 Religion: Catholic Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day Quote: Originally Posted by Jeanne S A lot has change n the past twenty years by design ,by the progressive left. And the progressive right have been a miracle sent from Heaven? __________________ Check out my Catholic Apologetic Booklet. 121 themes/doctrines, 5,200 Bible Verses, 192 pages. English https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B2TE...bFU/edit?pli=1 Spanish https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B2TE...M2c/edit?pli=1 Let others know about my booklet.   #43   Nov 8, '16, 9:29 am chero23 Forum Master Join Date: November 12, 2012 Posts: 15,743 Religion: Catholic Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day Republicans showing voter indimidation already. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016...imidation.html __________________ Check out my Catholic Apologetic Booklet. 121 themes/doctrines, 5,200 Bible Verses, 192 pages. English https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B2TE...bFU/edit?pli=1 Spanish https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B2TE...M2c/edit?pli=1 Let others know about my booklet.   #44   Nov 8, '16, 9:32 am chero23 Forum Master Join Date: November 12, 2012 Posts: 15,743 Religion: Catholic Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day I voted at my precint earlier today. Around 830am Dallas time. Not a big line or anything. Maybe 10 of us were there voting, no setbacks what so ever. Voted for McMullin __________________ Check out my Catholic Apologetic Booklet. 121 themes/doctrines, 5,200 Bible Verses, 192 pages. English https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B2TE...bFU/edit?pli=1 Spanish https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B2TE...M2c/edit?pli=1 Let others know about my booklet.   #45   Nov 8, '16, 10:02 am Ridgerunner Forum Elder Join Date: September 10, 2006 Posts: 36,719 Religion: Catholic Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day Quote: Originally Posted by chero23 What about Trump saying he won't accept the results if he loses? He didn't say that, of course.  Nov 8, '16, 10:24 am Neofight Banned Join Date: December 28, 2011 Posts: 4,197 Religion: Roman Catholic Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day Quote: Originally Posted by Michael68 No sillier than any other poll being shoved down our throats as news. Scientific polls are accurate...but uncontrolled polls on social media sights such have CAF are no more predictive of overall sentiment as call in votes for reality TV talent shows...although on second thought. American politics may have been reduced to that level.   #47   Nov 8, '16, 10:24 am Convert in 99 Senior Member Join Date: April 20, 2007 Posts: 8,587 Religion: Catholic Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day Quote: Originally Posted by Finite I, for one, can't wait for this election to be over. But I am a little worried about the response from Trump supporters. It seems likely that Trump is going to be defeated today. His most devoted supporters have allowed him to convince them that his win is inevitable and there is no possible way he could lose...so when inevitably does lose, they are going to follow his lead and say everything was "rigged". What happens after that is what I'm afraid of. Amen to your first sentence! I think they will both go nuts if they loose. Think adult sized temper tantrums, with adult sized consequences. __________________ I side with Pope Francis!   #48   Nov 8, '16, 10:29 am Michael68 Banned Join Date: August 17, 2015 Posts: 5,225 Religion: Cradle Roman Catholic Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day Quote: Originally Posted by Neofight Scientific polls are accurate...but uncontrolled polls on social media sights such have CAF are no more predictive of overall sentiment as call in votes for reality TV talent shows...although on second thought. American politics may have been reduced to that level. Ummmmm scientific? Oversampling one group is scientific?   #49   Nov 8, '16, 10:41 am sallybutler Regular Member Forum Supporter Join Date: July 3, 2011 Posts: 3,730 Religion: Catholic Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day Quote: Originally Posted by Michael68 Ummmmm scientific? Oversampling one group is scientific? It depends. If you sample in the same percentage as the groups have, then no. But if you sample the same number from each group even though one group has more members, then you are actually overstepping from the group with less members. Since there are more Democrats than Republicans, one would expect more Democrats to be polled. __________________ 'Those who consider themselves religious and yet do not keep a tight rein on their tongues deceive themselves, and their religion is worthless.' James 1:26   #50   Nov 8, '16, 10:42 am queenofheartscv Regular Member Join Date: January 25, 2016 Posts: 3,399 Religion: Catholic Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day Quote: Originally Posted by chero23 What about Trump saying he won't accept the results if he loses? That's not a conservative thing to say. Aren't conservatives supposed to be mature? If he loses and does not accept the loss, guess how his base, those that "won't turn away from him if he shoots somebody" follow his lead? Very mature guys very mature Whatever Trump says pales in comparison to what hillary camp actually does. Endless corruption!!!   #51   Nov 8, '16, 10:45 am Abynissa Regular Member Join Date: June 2, 2015 Posts: 517 Religion: Skeptic Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day I don't have dog in this fight. Way too many undecideds this year compared to past previous elections for polls to predict accurately. It all depends on how the undecideds vote. Current polls Nat Silver 538 which avg all polls show Clinton winning the popular vote by with a 71% probability. Clinton is leading by 3% points the popular vote. Picking up 323 electoral votes. However, the margin of error is within 3% points. So if all the undecideds break toward Trump, Trump will win the electoral college but not the popular vote. If the undecideds break toward Clinton, Clinton would win in a landside both the popular vote and the electoral college count. Also, if voters decided to stay at home and not vote, it would not favor Clinton as more white voters tend to vote than minority voters So the pollsters don't really know what will happen. Of course, this is without any hanky panky going on or interference in the election process.   #52   Nov 8, '16, 10:45 am Michael68 Banned Join Date: August 17, 2015 Posts: 5,225 Religion: Cradle Roman Catholic Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day Quote: Originally Posted by sallybutler It depends. If you sample in the same percentage as the groups have, then no. But if you sample the same number from each group even though one group has more members, then you are actually overstepping from the group with less members. Since there are more Democrats than Republicans, one would expect more Democrats to be polled. So basically manufacturing news that Clinton is winning.   #53   Nov 8, '16, 10:57 am lmachine Regular Member Join Date: March 8, 2016 Posts: 1,999 Religion: Catholic Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day Quote: Originally Posted by Michael68 Ummmmm scientific? Oversampling one group is scientific? When polls oversample one group they weight that groups responses.   #54   Nov 8, '16, 10:57 am chero23 Forum Master Join Date: November 12, 2012 Posts: 15,743 Religion: Catholic Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day Quote: Originally Posted by queenofheartscv Whatever Trump says pales in comparison to what hillary camp actually does. Endless corruption!!! Republicans have been corrupt as well. Remember Tom Delay? __________________ Check out my Catholic Apologetic Booklet. 121 themes/doctrines, 5,200 Bible Verses, 192 pages. English https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B2TE...bFU/edit?pli=1 Spanish https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B2TE...M2c/edit?pli=1 Let others know about my booklet.   #55   Nov 8, '16, 10:59 am Abynissa Regular Member Join Date: June 2, 2015 Posts: 517 Religion: Skeptic Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day Quote: Originally Posted by Michael68 So basically manufacturing news that Clinton is winning. I take umbrage at your commnet, kind of snarky. No. What do you mean manufacturing news Clinton winning? This is the current status facts on the polling numbers being reported. The polls predict a Clinton win as being reported as it stands now but the polling is not as accurate this year unlike previous years. As I am trying to explain, what is being reported may not be accurrate as there are too many undecideds that the polls have not picked up that could break either way. So don't count what the polls are stating right now as they could be all wrong and give the reason for such. Just the opposite of your comment...sheesh! -   #56   Nov 8, '16, 11:01 am chero23 Forum Master Join Date: November 12, 2012 Posts: 15,743 Religion: Catholic Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day Quote: Originally Posted by Ridgerunner He didn't say that, of course. Boy, no matter what he does, you will always defend him. There was even a thread started here on CAF about how he said, that he won't accept the results, only if he wins. But of course, those on the right, will always blame democrats. Or they use the Christian shield. __________________ Check out my Catholic Apologetic Booklet. 121 themes/doctrines, 5,200 Bible Verses, 192 pages. English https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B2TE...bFU/edit?pli=1 Spanish https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B2TE...M2c/edit?pli=1 Let others know about my booklet.   #57   Nov 8, '16, 11:13 am Michael68 Banned Join Date: August 17, 2015 Posts: 5,225 Religion: Cradle Roman Catholic Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day Quote: Originally Posted by Abynissa I take umbrage at your commnet, kind of snarky. No. What do you mean manufacturing news Clinton winning? This is the current status facts on the polling numbers being reported. The polls predict a Clinton win as being reported as it stands now but the polling is not as accurate this year unlike previous years. As I am trying to explain, what is being reported may not be accurrate as there are too many undecideds that the polls have not picked up that could break either way. So don't count what the polls are stating right now as they could be all wrong and give the reason for such. Just the opposite of your comment...sheesh! - Forgive me if I find polling suspect. For over a year now we have been shown by the MSM that Trump has no chance of winning, it will be Hillary in a landslide. This apparently is not the case. They have to admit now this race is close. It was manufactured news to sway Trump supporters away from voting. This is one of the issues I brought up as the MSM rigging this election by lying about the reality that this race was always close despite the MSM's attempt to turn Trump into Satan himself!   #58   Nov 8, '16, 11:19 am Michael68 Banned Join Date: August 17, 2015 Posts: 5,225 Religion: Cradle Roman Catholic Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day Quote: Originally Posted by chero23 Boy, no matter what he does, you will always defend him. There was even a thread started here on CAF about how he said, that he won't accept the results, only if he wins. But of course, those on the right, will always blame democrats. Or they use the Christian shield. And yet you are still misquoting him and still not getting the joke about "if he wins". WOW   #59   Nov 8, '16, 11:22 am Al Moritz Regular Member Join Date: April 20, 2011 Posts: 3,024 Religion: Roman Catholic/Freethinker/Skeptic Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day Quote: Originally Posted by chero23 Boy, no matter what he does, you will always defend him. Getting tiresome, doesn't it? Well, let's wait when his candidate loses. __________________ Health is not a consumer good but a universal right, so access to health services cannot be a privilege. Pope Francis   #60   Nov 8, '16, 11:32 am twf Regular Member Join Date: May 18, 2004 Posts: 5,830 Religion: Catholic (former Evangelical Protestant) Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day Quote: Originally Posted by Al Moritz Getting tiresome, doesn't it? Well, let's wait when his candidate loses. All faithful Catholics know that Clinton supports grave intrinsic evils. There's no question, no debate, no doubt there. What makes non-American Catholics, such as myself, sick to our stomachs, is the unrelenting support for a man as vile as Trump on this forum. He's basically God in the flesh for a lot of people here...and the rest of us just keep scratching our heads in absolute disbelief. Its also interesting, as an outsider, how incredibly polarized the situation is...any time, on any thread, a poster dares criticize Trump, that poster is immediately drowning in accusations of "how can you support Hilary!!!!"...opposing Trump does not equate to support of Hilary. Nov 8, '16, 3:04 pm Convert in 99 Senior Member Join Date: April 20, 2007 Posts: 8,587 Religion: Catholic Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day Quote: Originally Posted by josh987654321 It should never have been changed to electronic voting, it's faster, more convenient, but so easily corruptible and when done electronically, there is no way to go back and do a 'recount' without getting the same incorrect results, nor to ensure the accuracy of the vote (Which is the crucial point). I hope this has helped God Bless You Thank you for reading Josh Did you forget about the accuracy of the "chad?" __________________ I side with Pope Francis!   #107   Nov 8, '16, 3:05 pm josh987654321 Regular Member Join Date: March 14, 2013 Posts: 5,266 Religion: Catholic Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day Quote: Originally Posted by Convert in 99 Why are we still fighting about this? It's pretty much set the way it's going to be set. Now let's all have a big group hug If Clinton wins, count me out of it, I will be trying to distance myself from the USA us much as possible if that happens. God Bless You Thank you for reading Josh __________________ Jesus to St Faustina You please Me most when you meditate on My Sorrowful Passion. (Diary, 1512) The greatest misery does not stop Me from uniting Myself to a soul, but where there is pride, I am not there. (Diary, 1563) We resemble God most when we forgive our neighbors. (Diary, 1148)   #108   Nov 8, '16, 3:05 pm josh987654321 Regular Member Join Date: March 14, 2013 Posts: 5,266 Religion: Catholic Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day Quote: Originally Posted by Convert in 99 Did you forget about the accuracy of the "chad?" chad? God Bless You Josh __________________ Jesus to St Faustina You please Me most when you meditate on My Sorrowful Passion. (Diary, 1512) The greatest misery does not stop Me from uniting Myself to a soul, but where there is pride, I am not there. (Diary, 1563) We resemble God most when we forgive our neighbors. (Diary, 1148)   #109   Nov 8, '16, 3:19 pm 7 Sorrows Forum Elder Greeter Prayer Warrior Forum Supporter Book Club Member Join Date: September 23, 2008 Posts: 43,895 Religion: Catholic Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day Quote: Originally Posted by Michael68 Forgive me if I find polling suspect. For over a year now we have been shown by the MSM that Trump has no chance of winning, it will be Hillary in a landslide. This apparently is not the case. They have to admit now this race is close. It was manufactured news to sway Trump supporters away from voting. This is one of the issues I brought up as the MSM rigging this election by lying about the reality that this race was always close despite the MSM's attempt to turn Trump into Satan himself! and Hillary is the little angel.... __________________ You created every part of me; you put me together in my mother's womb. (13) when I was growing there in secret, you knew that I was there----you saw me before I was born. (15) ~~~Psalm 139   #110   Nov 8, '16, 3:21 pm signit Regular Member Join Date: October 26, 2006 Posts: 1,523 Religion: Catholic Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day Just voted for Trump, as I said earlier that I would. Quote: Originally Posted by qui est ce I can't deny most of what you posted. I won't say I'm shocked that Republican voters support him, though. I like a much of what he says, and the alternative is worse. Agreed. I won't deny a lot of the negatives about him. I can think of at least ten things I really don't like about him, but I've just got to make the call for one or the other.   #111   Nov 8, '16, 3:31 pm Convert in 99 Senior Member Join Date: April 20, 2007 Posts: 8,587 Religion: Catholic Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day Quote: Originally Posted by josh987654321 chad? God Bless You Josh Ahhh...maybe you are to young? Look up 2000 election (George Bush versus Al Gore) Florida and chads. It was my first election voting...it went on for weeks. __________________ I side with Pope Francis!   #112   Nov 8, '16, 3:37 pm ringil Veteran Member Join Date: May 9, 2011 Posts: 9,319 Religion: Catholic Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day Quote: Originally Posted by Seamus L Great article on the elction from Pat Buchanan http://townhall.com/columnists/patbu...ought-n2242718 Pat Buchanan __________________ To those with only hammers everything looks like a nail. "tough love thy neighbor as thyself. Get your own loaves and fishes!"- Stephen Colbert   #113   Nov 8, '16, 3:41 pm Saints Alive Regular Member Prayer Warrior Join Date: September 10, 2012 Posts: 1,240 Religion: Roman Catholic Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day Quote: Originally Posted by josh987654321 It should never have been changed to electronic voting, it's faster, more convenient, but so easily corruptible and when done electronically, there is no way to go back and do a 'recount' without getting the same incorrect results, nor to ensure the accuracy of the vote (Which is the crucial point). I don't know how the electronic voting works over there, but I hope there are systems and measures in place to ensure it's accuracy and that the people in charge of those systems remain vigilant. And if Trump does win, I hope there are moves to return to ballot paper voting. I hope this has helped God Bless You Thank you for reading Josh Yes, with the paper ballots and scanners the paper ballots are there to be recounted if need be. __________________ Go Cubs !   #114   Nov 8, '16, 3:48 pm Convert in 99 Senior Member Join Date: April 20, 2007 Posts: 8,587 Religion: Catholic Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day Quote: Originally Posted by Saints Alive Yes, with the paper ballots and scanners the paper ballots are there to be recounted if need be. Not exactly. Do you not remember the 2000 election and the weeks spent counting chads and how many chads they couldn't discern if they were punched through or not? Pregnant chads, dimpled chads, dangling chads....for weeks after the election. Yeah it was far from perfect either. __________________ I side with Pope Francis!   #115   Nov 8, '16, 4:37 pm Dwyer Regular Member Join Date: February 26, 2007 Posts: 1,361 Religion: Byzantine Catholic Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day I want to see how this Evan McMullin does tonight. Some folks were keen on him, saying he could possibly win. Haven't heard anything about him on tonight's TV coverage though. __________________ "It's a free country; you can say whatever you want." --Old American Saying (U.S. Postal Service stamp-- from 1977 Americana series which extols freedom of speech and features a Speaker's Stand decorated with an American Flag shield.)   #116   Nov 8, '16, 4:48 pm Convert in 99 Senior Member Join Date: April 20, 2007 Posts: 8,587 Religion: Catholic Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day Quote: Originally Posted by Dwyer I want to see how this Evan McMullin does tonight. Some folks were keen on him, saying he could possibly win. Haven't heard anything about him on tonight's TV coverage though. I'm CERTAIN he can't win. But it will be nice to see how Third Parties fair this year. Probably better than other elections I'd think. __________________ I side with Pope Francis!   #117   Nov 8, '16, 4:49 pm 7 Sorrows Forum Elder Greeter Prayer Warrior Forum Supporter Book Club Member Join Date: September 23, 2008 Posts: 43,895 Religion: Catholic Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day Quote: Originally Posted by Beautiful http://www.whec.com/news/hundreds-vi...13074/?cat=565 CREEPY.... I guess they didn't learn anything about voting for an African-American because it was time we had our first black president. Look what we got. Look what we will get if we elect Hillary as the first female for president. It shouldn't be determined by race or gender, but the best person for the job. These people are misguided __________________ You created every part of me; you put me together in my mother's womb. (13) when I was growing there in secret, you knew that I was there----you saw me before I was born. (15) ~~~Psalm 139   #118   Nov 8, '16, 4:59 pm 7 Sorrows Forum Elder Greeter Prayer Warrior Forum Supporter Book Club Member Join Date: September 23, 2008 Posts: 43,895 Religion: Catholic Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day Quote: Originally Posted by Convert in 99 I'm CERTAIN he can't win. But it will be nice to see how Third Parties fair this year. Probably better than other elections I'd think. Why are you so CERTAIN? __________________ You created every part of me; you put me together in my mother's womb. (13) when I was growing there in secret, you knew that I was there----you saw me before I was born. (15) ~~~Psalm 139   #119   Nov 8, '16, 5:00 pm Inisfallen Regular Member Join Date: November 9, 2013 Posts: 1,482 Religion: Catholic Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day Quote: Originally Posted by josh987654321 It should never have been changed to electronic voting, it's faster, more convenient, but so easily corruptible and when done electronically, there is no way to go back and do a 'recount' without getting the same incorrect results, nor to ensure the accuracy of the vote (Which is the crucial point). Where I live (NYC), to vote, one fills out a paper ballot and then inserts into a scanner. The scanner allows the votes to be counted quickly (counting all the votes in New York City by hand would be time-consuming, to say the least), but the paper ballots are always there in case of a challenge, or if a recount is needed. Not a bad system. I voted this morning, at about 9:00. It was amazing -- the lines at my polling place were all the way around the block. The same was true at another nearby polling place. I got messages from friends and family in San Francisco -- they said it was the same there. Whatever the outcome, I'm glad to see so many people turning out to vote.   #120   Nov 8, '16, 5:01 pm Kit15 Regular Member Radio Club Member Join Date: March 15, 2009 Posts: 978 Religion: Catholic Re: Your Hour-by-Hour Guide to Following Obsessively on Election Day Quote: Originally Posted by Dwyer I want to see how this Evan McMullin does tonight. Some folks were keen on him, saying he could possibly win. Well…could possibly win Utah maybe. A few weeks ago there was some buzz that he could take Utah. But not the country. He wasn't even on the ballot in New Jersey. We do have the option to vote for him as a write-in but that does not do him any favors. Still… I took the extra time to write down his name so who knows? __________________