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I have come to think that these Catholic
Clinton supporters are pro-abortion, pro Planned Parenthood ...they just
do not want to admit it directly. There is no way they could use doubt
about Trumps being pro life as a reason to vote for Clinton, especially
after Sunday night when she specifically stated she wants to stack the
court, keep Roe V Wade and revisit the erroneous decision that upheld
the Partial Birth Abortion Ban which was upheld by the Supreme Court
unless they desire abortion to remain firmly in our culture. And now
Clinton will erode the Hyde and Helm amendments to enable exporting this
evil and using tax payer dollars to do it.
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I tend to agree. It's heartbreaking
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Re: In second Clinton debate, damaging tape increases stakes for Trump
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I have come to think that these Catholic
Clinton supporters are pro-abortion, pro Planned Parenthood ...they just
do not want to admit it directly. There is no way they could use doubt
about Trumps being pro life as a reason to vote for Clinton, especially
after Sunday night when she specifically stated she wants to stack the
court, keep Roe V Wade and revisit the erroneous decision that upheld
the Partial Birth Abortion Ban which was upheld by the Supreme Court
unless they desire abortion to remain firmly in our culture. And now
Clinton will erode the Hyde and Helm amendments to enable exporting this
evil and using tax payer dollars to do it.
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I have never understood Catholics voting democrat! It totally bewilderers me!
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Re: In second Clinton debate, damaging tape increases stakes for Trump
This is how the left treat women who are not supporting hillary.
https://twitter.com/atensnut/status/785654591891189760
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Re: In second Clinton debate, damaging tape increases stakes for Trump
Fact checkers caught Trump in a debate lie:
https://twitter.com/RogerJStoneJr?re...Ctwgr%5Eauthor
No Mr. Trump, Hillary didn't "acid wash" her private server as you
claim; she used something called "BleachBit." You liar, Mr. Trump!
How can we manage to live without the wisdom of the media.
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Re: In second Clinton debate, damaging tape increases stakes for Trump
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Fact checkers caught Trump in a debate lie:
https://twitter.com/RogerJStoneJr?re...Ctwgr%5Eauthor
No Mr. Trump, Hillary didn't "acid wash" her private server as you
claim; she used something called "BleachBit." You liar, Mr. Trump!
How can we manage to live without the wisdom of the media.
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Really? This is what you have? You and the media should be ashamed
of yourselves. He got the point across that she did something
extraordinary rather than just delete. This is a real pathetic stretch!
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Re: In second Clinton debate, damaging tape increases stakes for Trump
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As President he can give the order to
U.S. AID to actually do stuff in Haiti, instead of arguing about what
language the construction specification should be written in and how
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A lot of people will have died in Haiti before either Hillary or
Donald will have become President. Perhaps our current leaders can ask
us to help out?
Oh, and btw, it is DT who is stuck on English only, among a lot of others.
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Re: In second Clinton debate, damaging tape increases stakes for Trump
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Fact checkers caught Trump in a debate lie:
https://twitter.com/RogerJStoneJr?re...Ctwgr%5Eauthor
No Mr. Trump, Hillary didn't "acid wash" her private server as you
claim; she used something called "BleachBit." You liar, Mr. Trump!
How can we manage to live without the wisdom of the media.
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Its interesting you are more angry over Trumps use of the word
acid over bleach than the fact HRC went to this level of Bleachbit to
erase subpoenaed emails!
Mindboggling!
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Its interesting you are more angry over
Trumps use of the word acid over bleach than the fact HRC went to this
level of Bleachbit to erase subpoenaed emails!
Mindboggling!
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I guess it didn't come through I was mocking the media.
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Re: In second Clinton debate, damaging tape increases stakes for Trump
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Exactly.
No, she wasn't some little Tammy Wynette just standing by her man. She
was actively engaged in smearing these women who came forward so that
she could protect the Clinton family political power.
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You mean these women, one of which Trump called a "loser"? Who's doing the smearing here?
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Re: In second Clinton debate, damaging tape increases stakes for Trump
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I guess it didn't come through I was mocking the media.
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I was confused by your post! I thought you were bashing Trump. I
see it is the Clinton media grasping at straws again in their relentless
campaign to ruin Trump!
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You mean these women, one of which Trump called a "loser"? Who's doing the smearing here?
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You have a problem with a word, yet HRC actively sought to ruin their lives. Shame!
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Re: In second Clinton debate, damaging tape increases stakes for Trump
Not sure if anyone shared this yet
Trump supporter leaves CNN anchor speechless
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NPPE6a7mSI
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Re: In second Clinton debate, damaging tape increases stakes for Trump
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Sec Clinton's unwavering, die hard
support for tax payer funded, unfettered access to the destruction of
innocent lives, both here and abroad "pales in [your] mind compared to
Trump." Really? Millions of innocent lives snuffed out, and Sec Clinton
wants to expand access to that murder, and that pales in comparison to Trump.
What would Sec Clinton have to do that would be worse than Trump if this isn't enough? Seriously.
Even if Trump did NOTHING his entire presidency, that would be better
than a Clinton presidency. Trump may not be pro-life (I don't think he
even cares). But he certainly is not as rabidly pro-abortion as Sec
Clinton and the Democratic party.
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The president doesn't make laws. Wouldn't the Hyde Amendment be
decided by Congress? Sure she can veto whatever law it's attached to but
ultimately it will be congress that decides on this.
As far as the supreme court goes, one justice is older than Hillary and
Trump. If people are worried about the Supreme Court being so aged,
perhaps we should look at the candidates that were chosen to run for
president. Perhaps the Republicans should have looked at the guy Obama
chose. Hillary may not go for a moderate.
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Re: In second Clinton debate, damaging tape increases stakes for Trump
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And now Clinton will erode the Hyde and Helm amendments to enable exporting this evil and using tax payer dollars to do it.
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She can't do it on her own. That's why it's more important IMO to
prevent the Democrats of controlling the House and Senate. That's why
the House Speaker allowed his fellow Republicans of distancing
themselves from Trump, who wasted no time smearing the House Speaker.
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Re: In second Clinton debate, damaging tape increases stakes for Trump
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CNN anchoress looks very dismayed.
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Re: In second Clinton debate, damaging tape increases stakes for Trump
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From the video:
"when bill clinton was president, my children came home from school and
they had no idea what the oval office was -- they thought it was the
oral office! My children got educated way earlier than I would have
liked..."
Yep! And now they complain about trump's words. Hypocrites live in every age just as in Jesus's.
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Re: In second Clinton debate, damaging tape increases stakes for Trump
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You have a problem with a word, yet HRC actively sought to ruin their lives. Shame!
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I wouldn't vote for Hillary even if she were to turn pro-life but
my point was that both have been successful in ruining lives and
livelihoods along the way. Let's not point too many fingers at just one
of them.
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Re: In second Clinton debate, damaging tape increases stakes for Trump
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The president doesn't make laws. Wouldn't
the Hyde Amendment be decided by Congress? Sure she can veto whatever
law it's attached to but ultimately it will be congress that decides on
this.
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I'm not talking about the Hyde Amendment specifically. But rather
the USAID executive order (aka Mexico City policy) that every Republican
has issued and every Democrat has rescinded that sends money overseas
to promote and fund abortion.
There also the case of the Community Health Center funding that
Obamacare authorizes that is NOT subject to the Hyde Amendment. Pres
Obama did issue an executive order, but I have a very strong suspicion
that Pres Clinton would happily rescind that one as well.
So, yeah, the president can directly affect funding of abortion.
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As far as the supreme court goes, one
justice is older than Hillary and Trump. If people are worried about the
Supreme Court being so aged, perhaps we should look at the candidates
that were chosen to run for president.
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What does this have to do with anything?
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Perhaps the Republicans should have looked at the guy Obama chose. Hillary may not go for a moderate.
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I have heard talk that if Sec Clinton wins, the senate may
immediately jump on Judge Garland prior to her inauguration. But that's
beside the point with respect to the campaign and voting.
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Re: In second Clinton debate, damaging tape increases stakes for Trump
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CNN anchoress looks very dismayed.
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An "anchoress" is a female religious ascetic who withdraws from
secular life to pursue a life of prayer. The woman in the video is a
"news anchor" or just "anchor".
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Re: In second Clinton debate, damaging tape increases stakes for Trump
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She can't do it on her own. That's why
it's more important IMO to prevent the Democrats of controlling the
House and Senate. That's why the House Speaker allowed his fellow
Republicans of distancing themselves from Trump, who wasted no time
smearing the House Speaker.
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IMHO ... further fracturing the party will insure down ticket losses.
The fact that the establishment Republicans ( who are not conservative
by the way) have taken for granted the "conservative base" exactly like
the Democrats have taken advantage of the minority vote is what created
Trump. That is what gave rise to Trump in the first place. We have been
told to hold our nose and vote for the top of the ticket for years
...The Republicans promised to make conservative change if we voted them
in ...but they delivered little and caved into the Democratic policies
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What we see is that their desire is to remain in power and really are just like the Democrats.
That the Republican elites are supporting Hilary ...some directly and
some behind the scenes. THUS - Do not be surprised ....Many
conservatives will vote Trump and not down ticket ...if the party elite
abandon them ...they will abandon the Elite - especially if it looks
certain Trump will loose big ...the Republicans will loose more.....and
not recover ..what will replace it ..who knows??
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Re: In second Clinton debate, damaging tape increases stakes for Trump
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An "anchoress" is a female religious
ascetic who withdraws from secular life to pursue a life of prayer. The
woman in the video is a "news anchor" or just "anchor".
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Gotta love the pedantry as a red herring. Rather than address the
point being made, and accept the intent of the post, one diverts
attention by focusing on vocabulary.
Well done.
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Re: In second Clinton debate, damaging tape increases stakes for Trump
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That the Republican elites are
supporting Hilary ...some directly and some behind the scenes. THUS - Do
not be surprised ....Many conservatives will vote Trump and not down
ticket ...if the party elite abandon them ...they will abandon the Elite
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Not this voter. The president will either be blank for I'll do a
write-in. But I will certainly vote down ticket for conservatives all
the way.
And yes, even local offices matter. We have a county commissioner who
openly stated that he wanted to grant tax exemptions to Planned
Parenthood to encourage them to expand their services to "help women in
need." It matters.
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Re: In second Clinton debate, damaging tape increases stakes for Trump
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I have heard talk that if Sec Clinton
wins, the senate may immediately jump on Judge Garland prior to her
inauguration. But that's beside the point with respect to the campaign
and voting.
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Of course the Senate will, because GOP senators are laughably
hypocritical. The games one side of the aisle have decided to play with
our governmental processes is extremely relevant to who we should be
electing President.
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Re: In second Clinton debate, damaging tape increases stakes for Trump
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An "anchoress" is a female religious
ascetic who withdraws from secular life to pursue a life of prayer. The
woman in the video is a "news anchor" or just "anchor".
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I appreciate you pointing out this. I should have known this because our history class just covered the topic a few weeks ago.
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Re: In second Clinton debate, damaging tape increases stakes for Trump
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So, yeah, the president can directly affect funding of abortion.
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In fairness, isn't that exactly what Obama tried to prevent
through an Executive Order so that he could get the required votes to
pass the healthcare bill, only to have it totally ignored later?
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Re: In second Clinton debate, damaging tape increases stakes for Trump
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Of course the Senate will, because GOP
senators are laughably hypocritical. The games one side of the aisle
have decided to play with our governmental processes is extremely
relevant to who we should be electing President.
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And the policies of one side of the aisle is extremely relevant to
who we should be electing President. I'll policies over political
gamesmanship any day.
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Re: In second Clinton debate, damaging tape increases stakes for Trump
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In fairness, isn't that exactly what
Obama tried to prevent through an Executive Order so that he could get
the required votes to pass the healthcare bill, only to have it totally
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Is it ignored? I haven't seen anything about CHC's being permitted
to use any of the funding from Obamacare for abortion related services.
Though, just like money given to PP, it's fungible. So now CHC's have
more money from other sources to spend on abortion services.
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Re: In second Clinton debate, damaging tape increases stakes for Trump
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I have come to think that these Catholic
Clinton supporters are pro-abortion, pro Planned Parenthood ...they just
do not want to admit it directly. There is no way they could use doubt
about Trumps being pro life as a reason to vote for Clinton, especially
after Sunday night when she specifically stated she wants to stack the
court, keep Roe V Wade and revisit the erroneous decision that upheld
the Partial Birth Abortion Ban which was upheld by the Supreme Court
unless they desire abortion to remain firmly in our culture. And now
Clinton will erode the Hyde and Helm amendments to enable exporting this
evil and using tax payer dollars to do it.
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I think there is a lot of truth to this. Catholics have about the
same abortion rate as anyone else, and for every person who has had an
abortion there are those who were complicit in it.
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Re: In second Clinton debate, damaging tape increases stakes for Trump
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IMHO ... further fracturing the party will insure down ticket losses.
The fact that the establishment Republicans ( who are not conservative
by the way) have taken for granted the "conservative base" exactly like
the Democrats have taken advantage of the minority vote is what created
Trump. That is what gave rise to Trump in the first place. We have been
told to hold our nose and vote for the top of the ticket for years
...The Republicans promised to make conservative change if we voted them
in ...but they delivered little and caved into the Democratic policies
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What we see is that their desire is to remain in power and really are just like the Democrats.
That the Republican elites are supporting Hilary ...some directly and
some behind the scenes. THUS - Do not be surprised ....Many
conservatives will vote Trump and not down ticket ...if the party elite
abandon them ...they will abandon the Elite - especially if it looks
certain Trump will loose big ...the Republicans will loose more.....and
not recover ..what will replace it ..who knows??
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I agree with much of what you say, but didn't Trump start out as a
Democrat and a close friend of the Clintons before he found a niche in
the political arena with a fabricated birth certificate issue? Maybe the
debate should be about individual power rather than R vs D.
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Re: In second Clinton debate, damaging tape increases stakes for Trump
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Is it ignored? I haven't seen anything
about CHC's being permitted to use any of the funding from Obamacare for
abortion related services.
Though, just like money given to PP, it's fungible. So now CHC's have
more money from other sources to spend on abortion services.
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Precisely.
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