11 Officers Shot in Dallas, 4 Killed

View Poll Results: Who is to blame for the Dallas shootings?
The shooters themselves.		57	60.64%
BLM for creating an atmosphere that made violence against police acceptable.		26	27.66%
The police themselves, for committing acts of violence that made violent reprisal inevitable.		4	4.26%
Other.		7	7.45%
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#1   Jul 7, '16, 10:18 pm

XndrK Regular Member Join Date: August 11, 2013 Posts: 824 Religion: Papist =)

11 Officers Shot in Dallas, 4 Killed http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/07/us/phi...ling-reaction/ Quote: Multiple police officers have been killed during a protest in Dallas over shootings by police of black men in Louisiana and Minnesota. Three [Ed note: four now] Dallas police officers were killed and eight others were wounded, Dallas Police Chief David Brown and the City of Dallas said in separate statements. One Dallas Area Rapid Transit officer was fatally shot, the agency tweeted. It's not clear if Brown included the DART officers in his tally. [Ed note: He did.] Brown said two snipers shot the 10 from elevated positions during a protest. Two officers are in surgery and three are in critical condition. No suspects were in custody. Three other DART officers were also shot. Their injuries are not considered life-threatening, DART said. __________________ Join the Christian Democracy group!

#2   Jul 7, '16, 10:32 pm

Kit15 Regular Member Radio Club Member Join Date: March 15, 2009 Posts: 978 Religion: Catholic

Re: 11 Officers Shot in Dallas, 4 Killed I hope my sister and her husband (a cop) are in their bed sleeping soundly and won't hear of this until morning. There are people in Dallas living her greatest fear tonight. I'm completely gutted. I don't know what to to say. __________________

#3   Jul 7, '16, 10:44 pm

rfournier103 Regular Member Join Date: March 29, 2012 Posts: 2,503 Religion: Latin Catholic of the Roman Rite

Re: 11 Officers Shot in Dallas, 4 Killed Beyond enraged. Looking forward to justice being served quickly and severely. __________________ "A thorough knowledge of the Bible is worth more than a college education." ~ Theodore Roosevelt. "The Holy Eucharist is the Source and Summit of the Christian life." ~ Lumen Gentium, no. 11.

#4   Jul 7, '16, 10:45 pm

Darryl1958 Forum Master Join Date: December 22, 2008 Posts: 14,260 Religion: Unlisted

Re: 11 Officers Shot in Dallas, 4 Killed Welcome to post-racial America, no red states or blue states. Can't get more black and white than that.

#5   Jul 7, '16, 10:45 pm

rfournier103 Regular Member Join Date: March 29, 2012 Posts: 2,503 Religion: Latin Catholic of the Roman Rite

Re: 11 Officers Shot in Dallas, 4 Killed PS: I wonder when our president will address the Nation. Doesn't look like it'll happen tonight. Maybe tomorrow.... Very interested to hear what he has to say. __________________ "A thorough knowledge of the Bible is worth more than a college education." ~ Theodore Roosevelt. "The Holy Eucharist is the Source and Summit of the Christian life." ~ Lumen Gentium, no. 11.

#6   Jul 7, '16, 10:58 pm

St Francis Forum Elder Join Date: August 11, 2004 Posts: 16,500 Religion: Catholic

Re: 11 Officers Shot in Dallas, 4 Killed Not the best plan for discouraging police from shooting people. __________________ "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." CS Lewis–God in the Dock, 1948

#7   Jul 7, '16, 11:02 pm

rfournier103 Regular Member Join Date: March 29, 2012 Posts: 2,503 Religion: Latin Catholic of the Roman Rite

Re: 11 Officers Shot in Dallas, 4 Killed Quote: Originally Posted by St Francis Not the best plan for discouraging police from shooting people. There's no way the people calling for American police departments to be less military in tactics and equipment are going to get their wish now.... __________________ "A thorough knowledge of the Bible is worth more than a college education." ~ Theodore Roosevelt. "The Holy Eucharist is the Source and Summit of the Christian life." ~ Lumen Gentium, no. 11.

#8   Jul 7, '16, 11:10 pm

Lea101 Regular Member Join Date: January 6, 2016 Posts: 1,574 Religion: ?

Re: 11 Officers Shot in Dallas, 4 Killed Police said that suspects say that there are bombs all around and that the end is coming. I don't know who is responsible but all of this sounds like a terrorist attack

#9   Jul 8, '16, 12:47 am

chero23 Forum Master Join Date: November 12, 2012 Posts: 15,737 Religion: Catholic

Re: 11 Officers Shot in Dallas, 4 Killed At the moment 5 officers have been killed. http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/dalla...test/266881573 __________________ Check out my Catholic Apologetic Booklet. 121 themes/doctrines, 5,200 Bible Verses, 192 pages. English https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B2TE...bFU/edit?pli=1 Spanish https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B2TE...M2c/edit?pli=1 Let others know about my booklet.

#10   Jul 8, '16, 12:51 am

chero23 Forum Master Join Date: November 12, 2012 Posts: 15,737 Religion: Catholic

Re: 11 Officers Shot in Dallas, 4 Killed Quote: Originally Posted by rfournier103 There's no way the people calling for American police departments to be less military in tactics and equipment are going to get their wish now.... I still believe that in cities with high crime, unfortunately Dallas is getting up there, police have to start traveling like they do in Mexico. http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/americ...l?iref=topnews __________________ Check out my Catholic Apologetic Booklet. 121 themes/doctrines, 5,200 Bible Verses, 192 pages. English https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B2TE...bFU/edit?pli=1 Spanish https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B2TE...M2c/edit?pli=1 Let others know about my booklet.

#11   Jul 8, '16, 2:13 am

pepipop Regular Member Join Date: October 24, 2010 Posts: 4,151 Religion: catholic

Re: 11 Officers Shot in Dallas, 4 Killed May they all RIP. However it is not completely surprising that this was going to occur at some point in time - especially following the most recent killings of two black men. Mind you, who the snipers turn out to be will be another matter.

#12   Jul 8, '16, 3:18 am

Dwyer Regular Member Join Date: February 26, 2007 Posts: 1,361 Religion: Byzantine Catholic

Re: 11 Officers Shot in Dallas, 4 Killed Mass Shooting; War On Cops; Terrorist Attack. __________________ "It's a free country; you can say whatever you want." --Old American Saying (U.S. Postal Service stamp-- from 1977 Americana series which extols freedom of speech and features a Speaker's Stand decorated with an American Flag shield.)

#13   Jul 8, '16, 3:30 am

Trident H Regular Member Join Date: July 11, 2015 Posts: 2,180 Religion: Catholic

Re: 11 Officers Shot in Dallas, 4 Killed Here's what I know about the shooting of the second guy. He was shot by an officer of Chinese descent. He was shot right after saying he had a gun. Right after being told to get his license out. And the officer sounded really horrified about what he'd just done. So I think it's pretty obvious what happened. The officer told him to get out his license. The man, while reaching for it, told the officer he had a gun so the officer wouldn't be surprised to see one. The officer took that as a threat instead of a fair and open warning. He then panicked. Just like most people might. When their job involves making split second choices between life and death. When their job's all about taking out bad guys on a regular. When their job's about figuring that there's always some guy ready to shoot cops. Just like what's been proven in Dallas. So did the officer make a horrible mistake? Yes. Did he do it on purpose because he hates black people? Probably not. Was he maybe more ready to use force on a black person? Possibly. I don't know. I don't know this officer personally. But what we do know is there is a guy in Dallas who was willing to target officers on purpose. There is a guy in Dallas who DID it on purpose. And that guy's shown that prejudice lives in their camp too. So if BLM does not turn their outrage on that guy now? What does that mean? No. Seriously. What does that mean? I don't know what else to say. __________________ I'm just a guy fighting alcoholism and a bit of a bent sexuality. I'm not making excuses. I'm not asking for exceptions. I'm only just saying that I'm not exactly perfect. So maybe just keep that in mind when you read my posts. Thanks. [3, 4]

#14   Jul 8, '16, 3:43 am

mary bobo Veteran Member Forum Supporter Join Date: May 19, 2005 Posts: 10,618 Religion: Catholic

Re: 11 Officers Shot in Dallas, 4 Killed Quote: Originally Posted by Trident H Here's what I know about the shooting of the second guy. He was shot by an officer of Chinese descent. He was shot right after saying he had a gun. Right after being told to get his license out. And the officer sounded really horrified about what he'd just done. So I think it's pretty obvious what happened. The officer told him to get out his license. The man, while reaching for it, told the officer he had a gun so the officer wouldn't be surprised to see one. The officer took that as a threat instead of a fair and open warning. He then panicked. Just like most people might. When their job involves making split second choices between life and death. When their job's all about taking out bad guys on a regular. When their job's about figuring that there's always some guy ready to shoot cops. Just like what's been proven in Dallas. So did the officer make a horrible mistake? Yes. Did he do it on purpose because he hates black people? Probably not. Was he maybe more ready to use force on a black person? Possibly. I don't know. I don't know this officer personally. But what we do know is there is a guy in Dallas who was willing to target officers on purpose. There is a guy in Dallas who DID it on purpose. And that guy's shown that prejudice lives in their camp too. So if BLM does not turn their outrage on that guy now? What does that mean? No. Seriously. What does that mean? I don't know what else to say. Since I was not there, I don't know what happened in the second shooting, but I do know that when one takes a CCP class he/she is told that if they ever get stopped by the police, they should readily tell the officer that they have a carry permit and that they have a gun. May the good Lord be with the families of these fallen officers. I don't have words. __________________ Praying for all CAF intentions.

#15   Jul 8, '16, 3:52 am

Trident H Regular Member Join Date: July 11, 2015 Posts: 2,180 Religion: Catholic

Re: 11 Officers Shot in Dallas, 4 Killed Here's what an officer from Texas who's a friend of mine said about this just now. "I always try to live by the teachings of Mr. Rogers, so at least I’m seeing lots of heroes in this whole deal. Every one of them are wearing a badge. I’ve also seen some clearly shocked, perhaps in shock, protestors interviewed by the media who appear to be dumbfounded, and I believe questioning some of their own beliefs, after witnessing the large mass of of cops who rushed toward the gunfire to protect them while many others lead them to safety and acted as human shields to keep them safe. So maybe some good can come of this when many of protestors realize that perhaps the vast majority of cops are genuinely good people who are willing to lose their lives protecting EVERY person. In summary, there is a strong likelihood it could be another ISIS inspired attack, but the choice of a Black Lives Matter protest and then the specific targeting of cops leaves me currently believe it wasn’t coincidence." Thought I'd pass that on. __________________ I'm just a guy fighting alcoholism and a bit of a bent sexuality. I'm not making excuses. I'm not asking for exceptions. I'm only just saying that I'm not exactly perfect. So maybe just keep that in mind when you read my posts. Thanks. [3, 4]