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Re: Jesus’ burial site found - film claims
If you analyze the facts, this claim does not make any difference. Why?
Because the most these researchers can come up with is some sort of
probability that this tomb may (maybe / maybe not) be the actual
tomb of Christ. Now, I have read that the probability could be between,
acording to one of the advocates, between one and a hundred and one and
1,000, with ABC NEWS (the Disney News) reporting 1 in 600. Let's take
the mean as being one in 500. Now, I'm not a mathematician, but I guess
that narrows the field, afterall, the odds are not one in a million, but
still, it shows that the proof is inconclusive as to whose tombs they
really are. The name Jesus, is the Greek form of the Hebrew name Joshua,
which is still a popular name. But to name this documentary "The Burial
Cave of Jesus" is absolutely irresponsible and a lie, because, in the
end the researchers can only claim that the tomb may or may not be the
actual tomb of the real Jesus. And claiming that does not actually make
it so.
If there are any mathematicians out in the audience who want to whoop my argument, gehead. Thus, the probability is not 100% conclusive as the "Discovery" channel and secular News Media will want you to believe. Look how they titled the documentary: "The Burial Cave of Jesus." You cannot get more conclusive and biased than that title. Since the probability is not conclusive, that means that the channel (not a TV channel) of Christian faith is still opened to all. As the late Milton Friedman might say, you are still free to choose. You are free to make that choice between faith and no faith.
Also, have you noticed in my opinion, the decline in quality television on cable TV in the past 5-7 years? The "Discovery" channel now airs, in my opinion, a bunch of stupid programming that blunts your critical faculties. Programs like Orange County motorcycle workshop guys; dangerous jobs; two Bohemian guys that build and blow up things; some British guy who tries to survive in deserts and remote mountains. What educational purpose do these shows serve? Very minimal, in my opinion( I'm going to use "in my opinion" a lot because I don't want to get sued; its just my opinion). Frankly, I am now watching liberal PBS more and more for educational and informative programs. You have to critically evaluate their shows and read between the lines to see that they do have, in my opinion, a liberal bias, and not get enmeshed in their liberal propaganda; but the programming on PBS is now better than, in my opinion, anything on cable, except, perhaps the History, which, in my opinion is steadily going downhill, and C-Span. For weeks the Discovery channel has been airing, in my opinion, mostly a bunch of near junk status programs. Then- all of a sudden, during Lent and near Easter, they air a lavishly produced, chock full of experts, Biblical documentary. The last good program " Discovery" had on, in my opinion, was a show about the building of (guess what?) the Titanic(!) that was aired in the early fall. Oh, and they had a few programs on different countries like China and Italy.
The highest numbers is one and 2 million.
If there are any mathematicians out in the audience who want to whoop my argument, gehead. Thus, the probability is not 100% conclusive as the "Discovery" channel and secular News Media will want you to believe. Look how they titled the documentary: "The Burial Cave of Jesus." You cannot get more conclusive and biased than that title. Since the probability is not conclusive, that means that the channel (not a TV channel) of Christian faith is still opened to all. As the late Milton Friedman might say, you are still free to choose. You are free to make that choice between faith and no faith.
Also, have you noticed in my opinion, the decline in quality television on cable TV in the past 5-7 years? The "Discovery" channel now airs, in my opinion, a bunch of stupid programming that blunts your critical faculties. Programs like Orange County motorcycle workshop guys; dangerous jobs; two Bohemian guys that build and blow up things; some British guy who tries to survive in deserts and remote mountains. What educational purpose do these shows serve? Very minimal, in my opinion( I'm going to use "in my opinion" a lot because I don't want to get sued; its just my opinion). Frankly, I am now watching liberal PBS more and more for educational and informative programs. You have to critically evaluate their shows and read between the lines to see that they do have, in my opinion, a liberal bias, and not get enmeshed in their liberal propaganda; but the programming on PBS is now better than, in my opinion, anything on cable, except, perhaps the History, which, in my opinion is steadily going downhill, and C-Span. For weeks the Discovery channel has been airing, in my opinion, mostly a bunch of near junk status programs. Then- all of a sudden, during Lent and near Easter, they air a lavishly produced, chock full of experts, Biblical documentary. The last good program " Discovery" had on, in my opinion, was a show about the building of (guess what?) the Titanic(!) that was aired in the early fall. Oh, and they had a few programs on different countries like China and Italy.
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Originally Posted by Dwyer
If you analyze the facts, this claim does
not make any difference. Why? Because the most these researchers can
come up with is some sort of probability that this tomb may (maybe
/ maybe not) be the actual tomb of Christ. Now, I have read that the
probability could be between, acording to one of the advocates, between
one and a hundred and one and 1,000, with ABC NEWS (the Disney News)
reporting 1 in 600. Let's take the mean as being one in 500. Now, I'm
not a mathematician, but I guess that narrows the field, afterall, the
odds are not one in a million, but still, it shows that the proof is
inconclusive as to whose tombs they really are.
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The highest numbers is one and 2 million.
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Feb 27, '07, 12:35 pm
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Re: Jesus’ burial site found - film claims
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The calculation is for that exact combination of names turning up by chance (that is, the chance of two families having the exact same set of names). The calculation of 1/600 indicates that only 1 in 600 familes of that time had that combination of names. It is not a probability that this is the tomb of Jesus. If we take the higher value quoted, 1/2,000,000 then we are dealing with a very high probability that this is the tomb of Jesus.
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Feb 27, '07, 12:41 pm
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Re: Jesus’ burial site found - film claims
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True. Conversely, claiming it isn't His tomb doesn't make it so, either. Using logic such as questioning why a family as poor as Jesus's would have been buried there, a burial place that was for middle class people, or why they'd be buried so far from where they lived, proves nothing, since people do all sorts of strange things that defy logic. If this isn't the Jesus's burial site I would think it will be easy enough for scientists to disprove the claims through testing of the cave or ossuaries. Maybe they're going to wait until after the airing of the documentary to get started.
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