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ST. LOUIS — Phyllis Schlafly, the 91-year-old icon of the conservative movement, endorsed Donald Trump at his Friday afternoon rally . . .

For more than 60 years, Schlafly — an attorney who raised children then rushed headlong into conservative politics — had been a trailblazing grass-roots organizer. In 1964, she published the short tract "A Choice, Not an Echo," arguing that the Republican Party had courted defeat by allowing moderate nominees to be chosen in "backrooms." At the time, the GOP had lost ground in a series of presidential and midterm races, and Schlafly's voice was one of the loudest in favor of Barry Goldwater's 1964 presidential campaign, which cemented conservative control of the party . . .

The next month, in an interview with Breitbart News, Schlafly said that Trump seemed to be best positioned to defeat the "kingmakers" of the Republican establishment, but that (Ted) Cruz should be his first Supreme Court nominee.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...p-in-st-louis/


Another well known Conservative endorses Donald Trump for President.
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Another well known Conservative endorses Donald Trump for President.
Some call her "The Queen of Conservatism".

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Another well known Conservative endorses Donald Trump for President.
As pro-life as she is I can't even imagine why she endorsed Trump. I am very disappointed. Her and Carson have both disappointed me. God Bless, Memaw
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Never heard of her.
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As pro-life as she is I can't even imagine why she endorsed Trump. I am very disappointed. Her and Carson have both disappointed me. God Bless, Memaw
I believe because she knows how pro-death Hillary Clinton is.

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It is also very telling that she didn't endorse Ted Cruz, the so-called only true conservative in the race.
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Is Donald Trump against abortion and euthanasia and the other important christian beliefs?
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As pro-life as she is I can't even imagine why she endorsed Trump. I am very disappointed. Her and Carson have both disappointed me. God Bless, Memaw
I'd be curious to know if Schalfy and Carson share Trump's view that Planned Parenthood does wonderful work. It's pretty much unprecedented for any "pro-life" leader to be praising PP to the extent Trump has.
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I believe because she knows how pro-death Hillary Clinton is.
Well, I'm pretty sure Hillary thinks Planned Parenthood is a wonderful organization - which puts her in agreement with Trump.
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Is Donald Trump against abortion and euthanasia and the other important christian beliefs?
I don't trust him, he has been on the other side before and just recently claims to be pro-life. He has his foot in both camps. God Bless, Memaw
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Well, I'm pretty sure Hillary thinks Planned Parenthood is a wonderful organization - which puts her in agreement with Trump.
dishonest statement. You left out the other part of what Trump said.
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I'd be curious to know if Schalfy and Carson share Trump's view that Planned Parenthood does wonderful work. It's pretty much unprecedented for any "pro-life" leader to be praising PP to the extent Trump has.
I agree, 100%, God Bless, Memaw
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dishonest statement. You left out the other part of what Trump said.
Trump has said he would defund Planned Parenthood and that is a great thing, but when Planned Parenthood commits so much killing, praising what they do in regards to their non-abortion services seems very at odds, to say the least, with traditional pro-lifers, especially when it's not as if they are the only provider of such non-abortion services in the U.S. There are many more Federally Qualified Health Center sites than Planned Parenthood clinics that can provide health care services for those on a low income. Pap smears, breast exams and prenatal services at Planned Parenthood have been declining year on year from 2008 or 2009 to 2015. Trump is better than Clinton on the abortion issue, but she doesn't a set high bar on the issue. I hope Trump is commited to defunding Planned Parenthood if he becomes President.
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dishonest statement. You left out the other part of what Trump said.
Nope. Nothing dishonest about it:
http://www.lifenews.com/2016/03/01/d...-who-disagree/

Trump and Hillary are in agreement that Planned Parenthood does good work for women. Trump supposedly adds in the "except for abortion," but take away abortion, and he still thinks they're a wonderful organization -- which puts him in agreement with Hillary.
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I believe because she knows how pro-death Hillary Clinton is.

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That is an illogical reason for endorsing Trump in the GOP primary, in which Hillary is not one of the candidates. 
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Nope. Nothing dishonest about it:
http://www.lifenews.com/2016/03/01/d...-who-disagree/

Trump and Hillary are in agreement that Planned Parenthood does good work for women. Trump supposedly adds in the "except for abortion," but take away abortion, and he still thinks they're a wonderful organization -- which, puts him in agreement with Hillary.
Why didn't you add in the "except for abortion" part earlier?>
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Now this post corrected your prior one. This one is not dishonest.
Trump says Planned Parenthood is a wonderful organization EXCEPT for abortion.
Hillary says Planned Parenthood is a wonderful organization INCLUDING abortion.

Both Trump and Hillary are in agreement that Planned Parenthood is wonderful. What's dishonest is to deny this. Abortion is "non-negotiable," and so is voting for enablers of abortion -- and, yes, Planned Parenthood is the biggest enabler of abortion.
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Why didn't you add in the "except for abortion" part earlier?>
Because it's a superfluous detail, that's why. "Except for abortion" is meaningless -- saying Planned Parenthood is a wonderful organization "except for abortion" is like someone saying "Game of Thrones" is a wonderful TV show except for all the sex and violence.
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Because it's a superfluous detail, that's why. "Except for abortion" is meaningless -- saying Planned Parenthood is a wonderful organization "except for abortion" is like someone saying "Game of Thrones" is a wonderful TV show except for all the sex and violence.
Let the voters and readers decide whether that part is superfluous.
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Let the voters and readers decide whether that part is superfluous.
And accordingly, let's get Scalia's replacement nominated and confirmed ASAP, before the election, since voters and readers can decide if wanting to overturn Roe vs. Wade is still a priority or, more importantly, if a candidate who thinks Planned Parenthood is a wonderful organization -- "except for abortion" -- can be trusted to help overturn Roe vs. Wade.
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That is an illogical reason for endorsing Trump in the GOP primary, in which Hillary is not one of the candidates.
As politically savvy as Schlafly is, she believes Trump will win the nomination as well as Clinton, and that Cruz would be easily defeated if he were somehow to get nominated, thus putting any influence she may have behind Trump.
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Well, I'm pretty sure Hillary thinks Planned Parenthood is a wonderful organization - which puts her in agreement with Trump.

Hillary wants to defund PP? I don't think so.

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Hillary wants to defund PP? I don't think so.
Hillary thinks PP is a wonderful organization -- including abortion.
Trump thinks PP is a wonderful organization -- except for abortion.

They both agree PP does good work for women.
Which, to point out the obvious, is not a "pro-life" perspective.
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Hillary thinks PP is a wonderful organization -- including abortion.
Trump thinks PP is a wonderful organization -- except for abortion.

They both agree PP does good work for women.
Which, to point out the obvious, is not a "pro-life" perspective.

Trump may believe PP does some good work for women but as a businessman he knows without $500.000.000 per year from the Federal Govt., which he plans to cut, he'll put a dent in their abortion activities. Pro-lifers should realize that also.

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And accordingly, let's get Scalia's replacement nominated and confirmed ASAP, before the election, since voters and readers can decide if wanting to overturn Roe vs. Wade is still a priority or, more importantly, if a candidate who thinks Planned Parenthood is a wonderful organization -- "except for abortion" -- can be trusted to help overturn Roe vs. Wade.
Trump gave two names for his SC nomination choices, one of which is Bill Pryor who has called Roe vs. Wade the worst abomination in our judicial history.

I guess you consider that information superfluous as well.
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Is Donald Trump against abortion and euthanasia and the other important christian beliefs?
It depends.

I believe this is what he said when confronted on abortion.
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Nope. Nothing dishonest about it:
http://www.lifenews.com/2016/03/01/d...-who-disagree/

Trump and Hillary are in agreement that Planned Parenthood does good work for women. Trump supposedly adds in the "except for abortion," but take away abortion, and he still thinks they're a wonderful organization -- which puts him in agreement with Hillary.
I don't generally come to Trump's defense and don't believe for a minute he is really pro-life; however, it seems to me he does not have much knowledge about the proportion of services that PP provides. That is, from what I understand, much of their business is abortion and very little devoted to other services. I doubt Trump knows this and probably he doesn't care very much since such issues are not his main concern. Hillary, on the other hand, most likely has more knowledge about PP.
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I don't generally come to Trump's defense and don't believe for a minute he is really pro-life; however, it seems to me he does not have much knowledge about the proportion of services that PP provides. That is, from what I understand, much of their business is abortion and very little devoted to other services. I doubt Trump knows this and probably he doesn't care very much since such issues are not his main concern.
Right. He seems to take the business approach rather than the moral one.
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Right. He seems to take the business approach rather than the moral one.
The moral solution to abortion absolutely doesn't rest on the president alone. The society especially the Churches bear a lot more responsibility IMO. Do churches preach on moral issues? Very seldom that I've come across. Without a change of hearts in mothers and fathers and families, abortion cannot be defeated no matter who you elect as president.
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Never heard of her.
She has been an important figure in American conservative politics for decades.

It is unsurprising though that liberals have never heard of her. That is how secluded that the left has kept itself from conservative points of view.

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She has been an important figure in American conservative politics for decades.

It is unsurprising though that liberals have never heard of her. That is how secluded that the left has kept itself from conservative points of view.
One liberal says he never heard of Phyllis Schlafly and you draw such a conclusion?
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One liberal says he never heard of Phyllis Schlafly and you draw such a conclusion?
Because it is typical.
Liberals tend not to have any idea of what conservatives believe. the left controls the media, and that is how the conservative message has been filtered to anyone who is not a part of the movement.

It has gotten to the point where Americans actually believe that they are voting for a conservative when they are voting for Trump.
In reality, all that he is is a caricature of a conservative, the kind of caricature that the media has been building about conservatives for decades now.
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She has been an important figure in American conservative politics for decades.

It is unsurprising though that liberals have never heard of her. That is how secluded that the left has kept itself from conservative points of view.
This was Phyllis Schlafly defending a "pro-life" critic of Planned Parenthood in 2014:

"In 2007, Bill Diss led community opposition to a new abortion facility in a minority area of Portland. His school principal was not impressed and began demanding transcripts of his remarks at the pro-life prayer vigils he attended in his private time. At one point, she even demanded to see a video of the vigil.

Last year, the situation escalated. Planned Parenthood representatives showed up at Bill Diss’s classroom door, wanting to talk to students about premarital sex, contraception, and abortion. Bill Diss asked the representatives to leave, but moments later the principal arrived and insisted he let them in. Bill Diss asked if he himself could leave the room because of his religious beliefs as a Christian, but the principal refused his request.

Planned Parenthood wrote a letter to the principal the following day, complaining that Diss had told students that Planned Parenthood was an abortion provider. Diss’s class was then monitored by school administrators and Planned Parenthood officials. Eventually, Bill Diss was fired and escorted from the building. He is now in danger of losing his teaching credentials.

I’m thankful that there are teachers like Bill Diss who are willing to stand up for principle, but his story is an alarming reminder of what can happen when they do."

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I wonder what that high school teacher thinks about Schalflys endorsement of a guy who thinks Planned Parenthood is a "wonderful" organization -- except for abortion?
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As pro-life as she is I can't even imagine why she endorsed Trump. I am very disappointed. Her and Carson have both disappointed me. God Bless, Memaw
I'm with you on this.

My mother was a big Schlafly devotee back in the earliest abortion battle days. Phyllis was one of those folks who irritated me even when I agreed with her. I can't imagine my mom would be too happy with her endorsement of Trump, who is clearly an opportunist, not a pro-lifer.
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Another well known Conservative endorses Donald Trump for President.
Is this is the same Phyllis Schlafly who in 1999 was warning families about Planned Parenthood's promotion of sex education?

The Washington Post shook up its readers on July 9 with a front-page news story about sex practices in an affluent Virginia middle school. The school principal notified the parents that 13- and 14-year-olds were getting together for sexual activity in local parks, in one another's homes, and even inside the school and on the school bus.

What the kids were doing isn't fit to be described here, but you can figure it out from the comment of one of the girls. "What's the big deal?" she said, "President Clinton did it."

Is this Bill Clinton's legacy? Has he become a role-model for young teen immorality? And has he coarsened our culture so much that we have to talk about it?

There are many surprising nuggets in this front-page story. For starters, the Post admitted that this "news" was a year old. Why did it take a year to find its way into print?

Other shockers in the Post story include the age of the children (13 and 14), the fact that they were A and B students from upper-income homes, their totally casual attitude toward sex among classmates, their lack of shame at being caught, their exhibitionism about sex, and the way the girls pursued the boys to "hook up."

It's clear from the Post's interviews with the students that these youngsters have bought into the notion that the only sex that is wrong is the kind that produces a live baby. Indeed, that is the sex-ed message taught in most public schools and advocated by SIECUS (Sexuality Information and Education Council of the United States) and Planned Parenthood.
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Planned Parenthood has an active website specifically for youngsters (www.teenwire.com), which contains a lot of provocative sex chatter that teens can use as "how to" information. The website creatively redefines such words as sex, virginity and abstinence, and encourages teens to engage in "outercourse."

The public schools have given us 25 years of SIECUS/Planned Parenthood-style "comprehensive education about sexuality." The results are rampant immorality, illegitimacy, abortions, venereal diseases, infertility, and teenage emotional trauma that often follows them through their entire life.

http://www.eagleforum.org/psr/1999/oct99/psroct99.html

Does she now agree with Trump that PP does wonderful work -- except for abortion?
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I'm with you on this.

My mother was a big Schlafly devotee back in the earliest abortion battle days. Phyllis was one of those folks who irritated me even when I agreed with her. I can't imagine my mom would be too happy with her endorsement of Trump, who is clearly an opportunist, not a pro-lifer.
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Because it is typical.
Liberals tend not to have any idea of what conservatives believe. the left controls the media, and that is how the conservative message has been filtered to anyone who is not a part of the movement.

It has gotten to the point where Americans actually believe that they are voting for a conservative when they are voting for Trump.
In reality, all that he is is a caricature of a conservative, the kind of caricature that the media has been building about conservatives for decades now.


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Mike Huckabee talked about people supporting Trump and that it is about the "peaceful" overthrow of the government.

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/huck.../12/id/718788/

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Is this is the same Phyllis Schlafly who in 1999 was warning families about Planned Parenthood's promotion of sex education?

The Washington Post shook up its readers on July 9 with a front-page news story about sex practices in an affluent Virginia middle school. The school principal notified the parents that 13- and 14-year-olds were getting together for sexual activity in local parks, in one another's homes, and even inside the school and on the school bus.

What the kids were doing isn't fit to be described here, but you can figure it out from the comment of one of the girls. "What's the big deal?" she said, "President Clinton did it."

Is this Bill Clinton's legacy? Has he become a role-model for young teen immorality? And has he coarsened our culture so much that we have to talk about it?

There are many surprising nuggets in this front-page story. For starters, the Post admitted that this "news" was a year old. Why did it take a year to find its way into print?

Other shockers in the Post story include the age of the children (13 and 14), the fact that they were A and B students from upper-income homes, their totally casual attitude toward sex among classmates, their lack of shame at being caught, their exhibitionism about sex, and the way the girls pursued the boys to "hook up."

It's clear from the Post's interviews with the students that these youngsters have bought into the notion that the only sex that is wrong is the kind that produces a live baby. Indeed, that is the sex-ed message taught in most public schools and advocated by SIECUS (Sexuality Information and Education Council of the United States) and Planned Parenthood.
...
Planned Parenthood has an active website specifically for youngsters (www.teenwire.com), which contains a lot of provocative sex chatter that teens can use as "how to" information. The website creatively redefines such words as sex, virginity and abstinence, and encourages teens to engage in "outercourse."

The public schools have given us 25 years of SIECUS/Planned Parenthood-style "comprehensive education about sexuality." The results are rampant immorality, illegitimacy, abortions, venereal diseases, infertility, and teenage emotional trauma that often follows them through their entire life.

http://www.eagleforum.org/psr/1999/oct99/psroct99.html

Does she now agree with Trump that PP does wonderful work -- except for abortion?
It is very commendable if one has a record of always voting for pro-life politicians indeed.
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Mike Huckabee talked about people supporting Trump and that it is about the "peaceful" overthrow of the government.

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/huck.../12/id/718788/

Huckabee is as Evangelically Conservative as possible.
....who supports our endless wars, torture, drone killings, ect.
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Is this is the same Phyllis Schlafly who in 1999 was warning families about Planned Parenthood's promotion of sex education?

Does she now agree with Trump that PP does wonderful work -- except for abortion?
Certainly you don't believe that Schlafly thinks Trump is the next Ronald Reagan.

She is endorsing the one she believes can win and do the best for conservatives in the long run.

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Darryl, where is the other half of the argument, that is, the caricature stereotypes which conservatives have of liberals?
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Darryl, where is the other half of the argument, that is, the caricature stereotypes which conservatives have of liberals?
Dennis Prager describes it well.

Conservatives think that liberals are good people with wrong ideas.
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Dennis Prager describes it well.

Conservatives think that liberals are good people with wrong ideas.
Some Conservatives. There are also some who aren't quite so charitable.
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Dennis Prager describes it well.

Conservatives think that liberals are good people with wrong ideas.
So innocent? Maybe Dennis Prager feels that way, but I know of too many conservatives who feel more strongly about liberals.
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....who supports our endless wars, torture, drone killings, ect.
You are right on that portion of the assessment of Huckabee. I think he is a good man but unfortunately he shares very much a policy of endless warfare and occupation. This was a major factor of mine in not supporting him. I liked his ideas on many other issues but I can't condone the intervention/occupation mindset. Kasich recent statements have echoed the same thing which has nixed him from my list. Once again I like his mannerism, but he has an awful foreign policy.
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You are right on that portion of the assessment of Huckabee. I think he is a good man but unfortunately he shares very much a policy of endless warfare and occupation. This was a major factor of mine in not supporting him. I liked his ideas on many other issues but I can't condone the intervention/occupation mindset. Kasich recent statements have echoed the same thing which has nixed him from my list. Once again I like his mannerism, but he has an awful foreign policy.
And Trump's national security head is Senator Jeff Sessions, so one can see what his views are.

Let alone Trump's statements about bombing ISIS, statements on torture and so on, maybe he's not the dove one wants to make him out to be in comparison.
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....who supports our endless wars, torture, drone killings, ect.
So you say. Well, I don't think Huckabee thinks ISIS should be free to roam and kill.

Drone Strikes have killed more in this administration.

I don't recall Huckabee promoting the war in Libya, the Arab Spring and so on, perhaps one should double-check their information.

Or maybe Huckabee isn't the right religion?

Sounds like a totally unwarranted attack and just throwing at Huckabee whatever comes to mind, true or not.

":Supporter of endless wars". Like what? One shouldn't be able to say things about another human being and just not prove it. Are most of the candidates wanting to fight ISIS? Yes, but I rate the above as pretty close to calumny. "Drone Attacks", I haven't heard Huckabee talk of drone attacks though he may well have.
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You are right on that portion of the assessment of Huckabee. I think he is a good man but unfortunately he shares very much a policy of endless warfare and occupation. This was a major factor of mine in not supporting him. I liked his ideas on many other issues but I can't condone the intervention/occupation mindset. Kasich recent statements have echoed the same thing which has nixed him from my list. Once again I like his mannerism, but he has an awful foreign policy.
Really? I think it is wrong, I haven't heard about Huckabee wanting to go fight around the world, I assume he is much like the other candidates and wishing to fight ISIS. I haven't heard him talk about drones or anything. I rate the whole statement pretty far fetched.

About the only thing I can say about Huckabee is he probably would be supportive of Israel, again, so are most of the other candidates including Trump, no matter how he hedges the issue.
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As politically savvy as Schlafly is, she believes Trump will win the nomination as well as Clinton, and that Cruz would be easily defeated if he were somehow to get nominated, thus putting any influence she may have behind Trump.
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I wonder if she isn't a bit senile. Trump is a bully and a soft soaper at the same time. He calls everyone else a liar and he is not truthful himself. Speaks with forked tongue like he does on PP. I trust Cruz far more than Trump any day. God Bless, Memaw
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I wonder if she isn't a bit senile. Trump is a bully and a soft soaper at the same time. He calls everyone else a liar and he is not truthful himself. Speaks with forked tongue like he does on PP. I trust Cruz far more than Trump any day. God Bless, Memaw
Yeah, anybody who supports trump is either stupid, emotional, angry, a sell-out, or senile.

He doesn't call everyone else a liar. Get your facts straight or people might have to call you that, a liar.
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I'm with you on this.

My mother was a big Schlafly devotee back in the earliest abortion battle days. Phyllis was one of those folks who irritated me even when I agreed with her. I can't imagine my mom would be too happy with her endorsement of Trump, who is clearly an opportunist, not a pro-lifer.
I'm beginning to think Carson is too as he said he wouldn't mind a part in Trumps administration. God Bless, Memaw
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Yeah, anybody who supports trump is either stupid, emotional, angry, a sell-out, or senile.

He doesn't call everyone else a liar. Get your facts straight or people might have to call you that, a liar.
If you think he is telling the truth, he's got you fooled!! He has called them the liars many, many times. God Bless, Memaw
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If you think he is telling the truth, he's got you fooled!! He has called them the liars many, many times. God Bless, Memaw
Yes, I'm either stupid, senile, a sell-out, or emotional, or angry, or, let me add this to the list, a cafeteria catholic.

The only people he's called liars are cruz and rubio, and the media. Jeb bush was "low energy," remember?
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Yes, I'm either stupid, senile, a sell-out, or emotional, or angry, or, let me add this to the list, a cafeteria catholic.

The only people he's called liars are cruz and rubio, and the media. Jeb bush was "low energy," remember?
Yes he's good at calling them names. How about the way he insulted Carson" I am shocked at Carson supporting him. How far do you think he will get doing that to heads of other countries? I think he's a danger to our country. God Bless, Memaw
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Yes he's good at calling them names. How about the way he insulted Carson" I am shocked at Carson supporting him. How far do you think he will get doing that to heads of other countries? I think he's a danger to our country. God Bless, Memaw
You can have your opinion, but don't go around and exaggerate what he says. What do you call carson now that he supports trump? Stupid, emotional, angry, a fake christian, senile, a sell out, or all the above?
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You can have your opinion, but don't go around and exaggerate what he says. What do you call carson now that he supports trump? Stupid, emotional, angry, a fake christian, senile, a sell out, or all the above?
Your the one that seems to be determined to call people names. Let's let it go at that. God Bless, Memaw
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Your the one that seems to be determined to call people names. Let's let it go at that. God Bless, Memaw
You did say Phyllis Schlafly was senile.
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You did say Phyllis Schlafly was senile.
NO, I did NOT say she was senile. I said I wonder. She is 91 and I know folks who are lots younger than that who are, or at least very forgetful. I would love it if you would read what I DID say, God Bless, Memaw
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NO, I did NOT say she was senile. I said I wonder. She is 91 and I know folks who are lots younger than that who are, or at least very forgetful. I would love it if you would read what I DID say, God Bless, Memaw
http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...esident-trump/

Read and examine her words. See if those belong to a person who is senile. 
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NO, I did NOT say she was senile. I said I wonder. She is 91 and I know folks who are lots younger than that who are, or at least very forgetful. I would love it if you would read what I DID say, God Bless, Memaw
I have heard and read and followed Phillis Schlafly over the years soo very much, and this does not sound like her, something she would do, that's why I am "wondering." Everyone I talk to that "knows" her, wonders too. God Bless, Memaw
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Yes, I'm either stupid, senile, a sell-out, or emotional, or angry, or, let me add this to the list, a cafeteria catholic.

The only people he's called liars are cruz and rubio, and the media. Jeb bush was "low energy," remember?
And Donald Trump also called Jeb Bush a "sad case." The point is, though, that he insults everyone who does not agree with him and does it continuously. Maybe he believes that is the way the game of politics has to be played and maybe he can turn it off when necessary. What it shows, however, is an immature temperament that is, in my view, not suitable to the presidency, besides an untrustworthiness not so different from that of Hillary Clinton.
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You can have your opinion, but don't go around and exaggerate what he says. What do you call carson now that he supports trump? Stupid, emotional, angry, a fake christian, senile, a sell out, or all the above?
I think it would be a bit difficult to exaggerate anything Trump says. You sound like your a bit angry! God Bless, Memaw
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I have heard and read and followed Phillis Schlafly over the years soo very much, and this does not sound like her, something she would do, that's why I am "wondering." Everyone I talk to that "knows" her, wonders too. God Bless, Memaw
I for one see a pattern of people who endorse trump becoming vilified: Chris Christie and Ben Carson have been called a sell out by some. Your musing about Phyllis Schlafly is a new one. Senator Jeff Sessions has been called a fake conservative. Trump supporters on this forum have often been called cafeteria catholics.
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And Donald Trump also called Jeb Bush a "sad case." The point is, though, that he insults everyone who does not agree with him and does it continuously. Maybe he believes that's the way the game of politics has to be played and maybe he can turn it off when necessary. What it shows, however, is an immature temperament that is, in my view, not suitable to the presidency, besides an untrustworthiness not so different from that of Hillary Clinton.
Agreed, God Bless, Memaw
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I think it would be a bit difficult to exaggerate anything Trump says. You sound like your a bit angry! God Bless, Memaw
It is exaggeration if you say he calls everyone a liar when he only did so with cruz and rubio and the media. If that's no exaggeration, then me saying you called Phyllis senile is not wrong either. You can't have it both ways.

You said in another thread that trump wanted to go after muslims. That is so patently wrong. He wants to go after terrorists.
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It is exaggeration if you say he calls everyone a liar when he only did so with cruz and rubio and the media. If that's no exaggeration, then me saying you called Phyllis senile is not wrong either. You can't have it both ways.

You said in another thread that trump wanted to go after muslims. That is so patently wrong. He wants to go after terrorists.
Evidently you are not listening to Trump very well. And for the last time, I did NOT call Phylis Schlafly senile. I simply said I wonder. Big difference. God Bless, Memaw
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...Donald Trump...an untrustworthiness not so different from that of Hillary Clinton.
While I agree that Donald Trump has yet to provide a convincing case that he is trustworthy, he is different from Hilary Clinton in the trust department.

Hilary Clinton is surrounded by and has always been surrounded by scandal. "Donald Trump" and "scandal" are not two words that come to mind when I put those two ideas together. However, "Hilary Clinton" and "scandal" is second nature in the arena of politics.

Where Donald Trump runs into trouble in the trust department are his inconsistent statements. Hilary is very consistent in her statements to the point that her mantra is 'deny, deny, deny' even when proven to have told an untruth.
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While I agree that Donald Trump has yet to provide a convincing case that he is trustworthy, he is different from Hilary Clinton in the trust department.

Hilary Clinton is surrounded by and has always been surrounded by scandal. "Donald Trump" and "scandal" are not two words that come to mind when I put those two ideas together. However, "Hilary Clinton" and "scandal" is second nature in the arena of politics.

Where Donald Trump runs into trouble in the trust department are his inconsistent statements. Hilary is very consistent in her statements to the point that her mantra is 'deny, deny, deny' even when proven to have told an untruth.
Hillary doesn't always deny; sometimes she admits she misspoke, as just recently at the Nancy Reagan funeral in which she claimed that the former First Lady was an advocate in fighting AIDS and brought some consciousness to the issue. Another example is the Bosnia sniper story, where she also admitted to having misspoken.
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Really? I think it is wrong, I haven't heard about Huckabee wanting to go fight around the world, I assume he is much like the other candidates and wishing to fight ISIS. I haven't heard him talk about drones or anything. I rate the whole statement pretty far fetched.

About the only thing I can say about Huckabee is he probably would be supportive of Israel, again, so are most of the other candidates including Trump, no matter how he hedges the issue.
The other candidates are not just about ISIS.

I will concede Huckabee is a not a Marco "never a military conflict I don't want us in" Rubio. He is more moderate than that. As I indicated I do like him. I think he is a wonderful man. However, I think he is a bit of overzealous defender of Israel although he does at least add that Palestine's rights should be respected. And he has used more restraint than most of the other Republicans and Hillary, which doesn't take a lot to outdo them. He would have had my support if he got the nomination, but he was still to hawkish for me.

In regard to Kasich he indicated ( I believe in the debate before last ) that he is basically for American ground troops in Libya, Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan as well as occupation troops for however long it takes. Sounds like endless warfare to me (not sure where he thinks all this money is coming from to fund this). He was a big advocate for the no-fly zone in Syria which is a big time step toward involving other world powers in a chess match to start WWIII. He had indicated that Putin should be punched in the nose. This sounds like a terrible statement to make as a presidential candidate with the assumption he would be sitting across the table from him at some point in the future, On a positive note for Kasich if we go back far enough he was at least against intervention in Koscovo in 2008. I commend him for that. Unfortunately, that is dinosaur history at this point.

In regard to Trump, I never thought he was a dove, and I have said many times he was not my first choice. In a battle of chicken hawks and barnyard owls he was expressing the most "dovish" approach aside from Rand Paul. He has stated that if there is military action we have to go in, hit hard and get out. I hate the idea of any intervention but it appears our government has resigned us to this against better judgement. So I have to side with that whether I like it or not. Let's at least minimize our time of involvement.

You and I have spared in previous posts so I think you iunderstand my position on foreign wars and intervention into the affairs of other countiries. I am not against defense, I am against offense.
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Evidently you are not listening to Trump very well. And for the last time, I did NOT call Phylis Schlafly senile. I simply said I wonder. Big difference. God Bless, Memaw
And what's your basis for saying I didn't hear trump very well?

I object to the notion that if anyone supports trump there can't be genuine affection and trust based on a rational mind. That is the suggestion many are putting out whenever there is a surprising endorsement for trump.

You said you are disappointed in Carson as well. Here is what he said:

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign...endorsed-trump

"“He and I have talked over for months about the fact that we had a lot of alignment and there would probably continue to be some association,” Carson said.

The two men seem to genuinely like one another.

But Carson insists that he carefully considered all of the remaining candidates before giving his endorsement.

Cruz, Carson determined, is a “polarizing figure” who would lose to Hillary Clinton in the general election.

“I think it would be very difficult to convince the independents and Democrats to come over and support him,” Carson said.

Carson said his decision not to support Cruz had nothing to do with the Texas senator’s campaign circulating a false story about him dropping out of the race before the Iowa caucuses.

In fact, Cruz was Carson’s second choice."

But Carson said he doesn’t think Cruz has appeal beyond a narrow slice of the Republican base.
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So innocent? Maybe Dennis Prager feels that way, but I know of too many conservatives who feel more strongly about liberals.
Bleeding heart is typical.
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What people don't seem to understand about Trump is that his bluster is by design. He prides himself on being a great negotiator and wrote a book on negotiating. That's what he's doing right now. He's negotiating himself the Presidency while at the same time negotiating what his actual policies are with the American people.

He says something totally off the wall and makes you wonder what on Earth is going on and then later he'll walk it back. For instance, the torture thing, he outlined what the enemy was doing to us and was stating that we need to be careful about how we engage with them. Except people have been paid this lip service for so long with so little result that it ends up in no discussion. So instead he yells "THEY CUT THEIR HEADS OFF WERE GONNA WATERBOARD EM AND THE MILITARY WILL DO WHATEVER I SAY" and then people on either side actually have a substantial and productive argument about it for awhile and a few days later he says "well, I'm gonna follow the law, we're just gonna see if we can change it."

In the meantime he just got himself a bunch of free television time, saved himself a bunch of money, created a discussion that wouldn't have existed without his outlandishness, and negotiated exactly what he wanted from it: A discussion revolving around his narrative that ISIS are big, mean, scary people and a populace that while they aren't willing to tolerate the torture of them are now slightly more willing to accept them as a real threat as opposed to our current President who called them the "JV team."

That is how Trump has always negotiated. He starts the negotiation at a level that is completely bonkers and off the wall, because it sets the other off their game and allows him more wiggle room. He's purposefully starting from a place he can't win so he can "negotiate down" to a place he can. This is what he did in business, and it's what he's doing now, and it confuses me that no one seems to get it.
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Hillary doesn't always deny; sometimes she admits she misspoke....Another example is the Bosnia sniper story, where she also admitted to having misspoken.
"I remember landing under sniper fire," she said in Washington on Monday. "There was supposed to be some kind of a greeting ceremony at the airport, but instead we just ran with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base."
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She 'misspoke' rather than 'lied'. As I said: deny, deny, deny. She never admitted she made the whole thing up about running with their heads down to get away from the snipers.

She did this so she has a 'consistent' story to tell - that she merely 'misspoke' about the incident.

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Hillary doesn't always deny; sometimes she admits she misspoke, as just recently at the Nancy Reagan funeral in which she claimed that the former First Lady was an advocate in fighting AIDS....
In fairness, I will refrain from comment on her Nancy Reagan comments as I am unaware of the context or surrounding controversy regarding them. Presently I have no opinion on that matter.
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Another well known Conservative endorses Donald Trump for President.


Wow. That is shocking.
She must have no idea how Trump treats women.


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Wow. That is shocking.
She must have no idea how Trump treats women.


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Or she is too smart to believe the media's narrative of how trump treats women.
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One thing Trump's candidacy has exposed is that the "Conservative establishment" is just as insular and parochial as the "Liberal establishment". They only America either understands is the one inside the Acela corridor.
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Or she is too smart to believe the media's narrative of how trump treats women.
Those Trump owned strip clubs fit nicely with Christian conservatism.
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Or she is too smart to believe the media's narrative of how trump treats women.
Or maybe she doesn't like whatever the GOP establishment is planning.
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Those Trump owned strip clubs fit nicely with Christian conservatism.
From today's gospel: let those without sin cast the first stone.
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"I remember landing under sniper fire," she said in Washington on Monday. "There was supposed to be some kind of a greeting ceremony at the airport, but instead we just ran with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base."
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She 'misspoke' rather than 'lied'. As I said: deny, deny, deny. She never admitted she made the whole thing up about running with their heads down to get away from the snipers.

She did this so she has a 'consistent' story to tell - that she merely 'misspoke' about the incident.

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"Misspoke" is political language for "lied." Can you expect a politician to bluntly state that they lied? Some new to the political game (no names to protect the innocent) would never even think of saying they misspoke.
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Wow. That is shocking.
She must have no idea how Trump treats women.


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Yeah, Trump is a lot like FDR, JFK, MLK JR., and Hillary's Husband.


And Mr. Sanders has an illegitimate son, Levi, and that's never mentioned on the Big Three Cable Media networks and CBS or in the City Daily newspapers.
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Can you expect a politician to bluntly state that they lied?
Maybe that's asking too much from a leader. Perhaps the deck is just too much stacked against the electorate (given the state of the media in the US) to make a reasonable discernment on whom is trustworthy enough to hold political office.
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Or she is too smart to believe the media's narrative of how trump treats women.
Well...I've seen him treat women badly with my own eyes, and so have many others. It's got nothing to do with the media. In fact, the media doesn't know the half of it.
If he gets elected party leader or president, I assume it will all come to the surface then.


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And Mr. Sanders has an illegitimate son, Levi, and that's never mentioned on the Big Three Cable Media networks and CBS or in the City Daily newspapers.


People still use that word to describe children??


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From today's gospel: let those without sin cast the first stone.
Apple, meet orange.
Dragging Scripture into the subject, as your hero does with "Two Corinthians", is not a conversation stopper.
The comment had to do with how Trump views women, to which I pointed out his strip clubs. Phyllis Schlafly, who once represented Christian conservatism apparently did not take this into consideration.
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Yeah, Trump is a lot like FDR, JFK, MLK JR., and Hillary's Husband.


And Mr. Sanders has an illegitimate son, Levi, and that's never mentioned on the Big Three Cable Media networks and CBS or in the City Daily newspapers.
Another apple meet orange.
What has Bernie Sanders son have to do with the topic? Other than to sling mud?
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People still use that word to describe children??


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Well...I've seen him treat women badly with my own eyes, and so have many others. It's got nothing to do with the media. In fact, the media doesn't know the half of it.
If he gets elected party leader or president, I assume it will all come to the surface then.


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I'm surprised you haven't gone to the press to talk about your eye-witness account of trump abusing women.
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People still use that word to describe children??


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Maybe that's asking too much from a leader. Perhaps the deck is just too much stacked against the electorate (given the state of the media in the US) to make a reasonable discernment on whom is trustworthy enough to hold political office.
Virtually none of these politicians is trustworthy enough yet, at the same time, they all are. What I mean is that the nature of politics, perhaps more so in modern times when the standard for integrity and trustworthiness is so low, involves a little, or sometimes a lot, of smudging of the truth. This probably extends beyond politics into life in general.
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She 'misspoke' rather than 'lied'. As I said: deny, deny, deny. She never admitted she made the whole thing up about running with their heads down to get away from the snipers.

She did this so she has a 'consistent' story to tell - that she merely 'misspoke' about the incident.
She misunderestimated the truth.
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Cruz, Carson determined, is a “polarizing figure” who would lose to Hillary Clinton in the general election.
Trump isn't polarizing?
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Trump isn't polarizing?
you'd have to ask Dr. Carson. Truth is, Trump has a lot more cross-over appeal than Cruz in the general election. Democrats are ditching and switching to vote for Trump. Trump wins a lot more african american votes than Cruz. Trump is a lot more likable than Cruz. Cruz fans are mostly conservative purists.
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I'm surprised you haven't gone to the press to talk about your eye-witness account of trump abusing women.

I'm surprised that you are surprised.
He's a powerful person...and that's all I'll say for now.


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I'm surprised that you are surprised.
He's a powerful person...and that's all I'll say for now.


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Either have proof or stop the slander.
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As pro-life as she is I can't even imagine why she endorsed Trump. I am very disappointed. Her and Carson have both disappointed me. God Bless, Memaw
There are plenty of big-named Catholic conservatives supporting Trump, from Phyllis Schlafly to Pat Buchanan to name a few..

It's about a revolution against spineless Republicans who've been neutered by political correctness and are afraid of actually fighting for Republican causes. Pro-Life voters are tired of lip service.

Voters are tired of spineless and ineffective Republicans-- candidates who were sent to Washington to fight to stop the agendas of the left. The Republicans have held the senate and the congress yet the left continues to march unimpeded.

Enough with the polished debaters who sounds so good with their flowery speeches and empty promises.

Enough with the loud complainers who do nothing but complain but aren't smart enough to actually get anything done. What is needed is a fearless leader who is savvy enough to beat the liberal democratic machine and their smear and fear campaigns; the Republican Party needs someone who has the will and wit to shove the left's political correctness right back at them.

It's not about electing polished goody-two-shoes---politicians who say the right things and deliver nothing; it's about sending someone who is not afraid of standing up to fight for life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. It's one thing to stand on a soap box to shout how bad things are; it's quite another thing to charge forward and lead an army into battle..

Donald Trump said he would defund Planned Parenthood from tax-payer money. That would be more than what any other candidate has done for the cause in ages.
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Those Trump owned strip clubs fit nicely with Christian conservatism.
Are you spreading misinformation? I never heard he owns strip clubs. Trump owns real estate everywhere and rents to tenants. As for being a sinner, yes, probably so. Even Charlemagne the great emperor of the Holy Roman Empire had four wives and six concubines; and Constantine was no saint either. Yet they were powerful leader who shaped the West. Today the United States is on the cusp of economic collapse, and the average Republican politician and is probably going to be the target of chemical and nuclear attacks from radical Islam. The average Republican candidate seems to live in fear of political correctness, and even though they have a majority in both the congress and senate, the Left marches on unimpeded. It's time for a fearless leader to push back all te political correctness and smear and fear campaigns right back at the liberal media's character assassination campaigns..
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Do you work for Trump?
I notice you joined CAF only 6 weeks ago and most of your posts seem to be about the election and Trump.


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you'd have to ask Dr. Carson. Truth is, Trump has a lot more cross-over appeal than Cruz in the general election. Democrats are ditching and switching to vote for Trump. Trump wins a lot more african american votes than Cruz. Trump is a lot more likable than Cruz. Cruz fans are mostly conservative purists.
What we need is the base (those purists) to show up more than any other group. Romney won independents in 2012 and still lost, and there were reports that at least 3 million GOP voters stayed home, and no doubt some of them voted for Gary Johnson and Virgil Goode.

Also, the polls show otherwise about likability. The frontrunner's negatives are high and that's a detriment to us beating Clinton. Cruz is more liked in no small part because he is less bombastic.

Listen, winning a general election means having a good ground game. Even frontrunner spokesperson Katrina Pierson has balked at the GOP just printing off literature in Spanish or not setting foot in African-American neighborhoods. Cruz has the experience to win on the ground. It's not enough to get people mad and suck the air out of the room.
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I notice you joined CAF only 6 weeks ago and most of your posts seem to be about the election and Trump.


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Well...I've seen him treat women badly with my own eyes, and so have many others. It's got nothing to do with the media. In fact, the media doesn't know the half of it.
If he gets elected party leader or president, I assume it will all come to the surface then.


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I believe you. Ivana has a non disclosure clause in her divorce settlement, for one.

Just his many appearances on Howard Stern, his discussions on the radio about women are proof.

Just the way he tweeted about Rosie O'Donell and Megan Kelly. He retweeted she was a bimbo.

I sort of think the perhaps Mrs. Schafly consulted with her protege Ann Coulter. She's one of trump's biggest cheerleaders. Maybe she is not aware of these things.
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I believe you. Ivana has a non disclosure clause in her divorce settlement, for one.

Just his many appearances on Howard Stern, his discussions on the radio about women are proof.

Just the way he tweeted about Rosie O'Donell and Megan Kelly. He retweeted she was a bimbo.

I sort of think the perhaps Mrs. Schafly consulted with her protege Ann Coulter. She's one of trump's biggest cheerleaders. Maybe she is not aware of these things.
Ivana supports trump for president, just so you know. Megan kelly slandered trump by her "women on their knees" comment taken completely out of context, just so you know.
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From today's gospel: let those without sin cast the first stone.
"Not casting the first stone" simply means we all have faults and sins. It certainly doesn't give a free pass to political candidates who display contempt for common decency and core values, not does it give us license to ignore glaring inconsistencies with regard to justice and truth. I don't believe the adulterous woman was running for office.

Shame on Phyllis Scholarly. Any woman who supports Trump needs her head examined - after she pulls it out of the sand.

If any of the following offends you... blame Trump; he said it.

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Ivana supports trump for president, just so you know. Megan kelly slandered trump by her "women on their knees" comment taken completely out of context, just so you know.
"It must be a pretty picture, you dropping to your knees." Direct quote, in context, from the horse's mouth.

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"It must be a pretty picture, you dropping to your knees." Direct quote, in context, from the horse's mouth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urReg9O6MwA
Do you know the story behind that quote? The context?

http://therightscoop.com/megyn-kelly...estant-agrees/

The woman knelt down and begged someone on her team not to be fired on the apprentice show. When trump heard the story, he said the quote. She wasn't offended at all and came to trump's defense. Megan Kelly used the story to suggest trump wants to see women on their knees in front of him.
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"Not casting the first stone" simply means we all have faults and sins. It certainly doesn't give a free pass to political candidates who display contempt for common decency and core values, not does it give us license to ignore glaring inconsistencies with regard to justice and truth. I don't believe the adulterous woman was running for office.

Shame on Phyllis Scholarly. Any woman who supports Trump needs her head examined - after she pulls it out of the sand.

If any of the following offends you... blame Trump; he said it.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/14/politi...men/index.html

Do you really want to cast shame on a great american who supports trump, simply because she supports trump?
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Never heard of her.
I never heard of her, either.
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Do you know the story behind that quote? The context?

http://therightscoop.com/megyn-kelly...estant-agrees/

The woman knelt down and begged someone on her team not to be fired on the apprentice show. When trump heard the story, he said the quote. She wasn't offended at all and came to trump's defense. Megan Kelly used the story to suggest trump wants to see women on their knees in front of him.
Same thing with the Mitt story, Mitt begged Trump for an endorsement there was nothing sexual intended in the conversation which was twisted by guess who?
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Is Donald Trump against abortion and euthanasia and the other important christian beliefs?
He lies so much, no one would know. Once he said he was pro-choice, then he switched to against-abortion because he saw it was more politically advantageous.

I think the only two who are against legal abortion are Cruz and Kasich.
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Same thing with the Mitt story, Mitt begged Trump for an endorsement there was nothing sexual intended in the conversation which was twisted by guess who?
And they wonder why people are angry and are supporting trump in droves?! We're so sick and tired of the media who think they can control our mind.
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And they wonder why people are angry and are supporting trump in droves?! We're so sick and tired of the media who think they can control our mind.
But Trump lies more than the media does. So all I understand is the public's naivete.
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Psst......They all lie, they are politicians and those who vote and plug for Hillary and Bernie don't get to play the abortion card. You only get to talk about the liars you plug for and your own abortion stance qualified. Thanks for coming, good night, drive slow and see you later .
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Do you really want to cast shame on a great american who supports trump, simply because she supports trump?
Yes. Supporting Trump, a delusional self-serving narcissist, is enough to bring shame on George Washington and Abraham Lincoln themselves. Choose any Trump supporter. So, tsk tsk, Phyllis, whoever you may be.

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