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And they wonder why people are angry and are supporting trump in droves?! We're so sick and tired of the media who think they can control our mind.
I've decided against trump, irrespective of the media, but by listening to the candidate himself.

I don't support him and many feel like me.
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Yes. Supporting Trump, a delusional self-serving narcissist, is enough to bring shame on George Washington and Abraham Lincoln themselves. Choose any Trump supporter. So, tsk tsk, Phyllis, whoever you may be.
Let me help you out. Anybody who supports trump is either stupid, crazy, angry, emotional, a sell-out, a racist, or all the above. And did I mention stupid?

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a delusional self-serving, narcissist
Unverified name calling no psychiatrist would approve of, you simply don't label people you actually attempt NOT too. Elementary mistake really I'll forgive the juvenile accusations this time.
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I've decided against trump, irrespective of the media, but by listening to the candidate himself.

I don't support him and many feel like me.
I don't listen to the media, either. Well, I do listen to them, but I don't take their words to heart. I make up my own mind like you did. I don't get all the bruhaha over "the media." Presumably, we can all think and all know what kind of person Trump is. Maybe not, though
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Unverified name calling no psychiatrist would approve of, you simply don't label people you actually attempt NOT too. Elementary mistake really I'll forgive the juvenile accusations this time.
I hope you feel the same when people call Hillary Clinton a "killer." There exists no evidence anywhere that she ever harmed anyone.

Licensed psychiatrists have called Trump far worse. In my opinion, he's a danger to the US and to the entire world. And I'm not basing my opinion of him as a liar on innuendo:

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/

http://www.politico.com/magazine/sto...sehoods-213730

http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...-went-bankrupt

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poste...stantly-lying/

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2015/1...t-Blatant-Lies

https://www.rawstory.com/2016/03/tru...ng-to-science/

I could fill this board with Trump's lies. I can't understand why anyone believes him. Even most Republicans have denounced him.

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Do you know the story behind that quote? The context?

http://therightscoop.com/megyn-kelly...estant-agrees/

The woman knelt down and begged someone on her team not to be fired on the apprentice show. When trump heard the story, he said the quote. She wasn't offended at all and came to trump's defense. Megan Kelly used the story to suggest trump wants to see women on their knees in front of him.
I, do, indeed, know the context. What he said was plain and undeniable. How is Trump stating that a woman on her knees would be a "pretty picture" not offensive to any self-respecting woman? It is thoroughly mind-boggling to me that any woman would try to defend him.
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I hope you feel the same when people call Hillary Clinton a "killer." There exists no evidence anywhere that she ever harmed anyone.
Sorry Hillary doesn't obsess me or occupy my mind at all, Jesus Christ does. All fall short of the glory of He who supplies the next breath of air to me. I only march to the beat of the Divine Master. Hillary will be judged for her cooperation with intrinsic evil and in this world my friend its one thing to sin and mortally, its a whole other ball game to be responsible for the innocent. Thanks
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Do you really want to cast shame on a great american who supports trump, simply because she supports trump?
In this case, most definitely, as I believe that anyone who supports a candidate as thoroughly un-American as Trump deserves shame.
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Shame on Phyllis Scholarly. Any woman who supports Trump needs her head examined - after she pulls it out of the sand.
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If Trump wins the election, and if he nominates a conservative to the SC and defunds pp, I'll be the first one to start a thread and apologize to Trump and his supporters for doubting every word that comes out of his mouth.
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Don't you just love autocorrect?
Ugh!!! That is kind of funny, though...
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In this case, most definitely, as I believe that anyone who supports a candidate as thoroughly un-American as Trump deserves shame.
No need for personal attacks. Leave the uncharitable remarks to them.
Just some advice.
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In this case, most definitely, as I believe that anyone who supports a candidate as thoroughly un-American as Trump deserves shame.
I don't understand how any self-respecting woman can support him, either after his degrading remarks about women. And, in my opinion, any man who supports him, doesn't support women, either.
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No need for personal attacks. Leave the uncharitable remarks to them.
Just some advice.
Imho you wouldn't be able to have a reasonable rational conversation that be the case. But that sounds good to me.
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I don't understand how any self-respecting woman can support him, either after his degrading remarks about women. And, in my opinion, any man who supports him, doesn't support women, either.
I feel the same about Hillary, Obama and Bernie. To me its sticks and stones but actions speak louder than words. And we have seen the abject failure for 8-years. And anyone who supports them doesn't support the sanctity of life period. 
 
 
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If Trump wins the election, and if he nominates a conservative to the SC and defunds pp, I'll be the first one to start a thread and apologize to Trump and his supporters for doubting every word that comes out of his mouth.
You know the Republicans did that before, and those Republican appointees upheld Roe v. Wade and made abortion legal. What new horror will they foist on the American public? A Trump appointee would mean "someone in Trump's pocket," as in doing his bidding, and Trump's bidding is good for Trump, not the American public.

If it were a Kasich appointee, or even a Cruz appointee, though I'm not fond of Cruz's ideology, then he or she could probably be trusted, but not a Trump appointee.
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And they wonder why people are angry and are supporting trump in droves?! We're so sick and tired of the media who think they can control our mind.
Yeah..
In an interview with some Trump supporters, their biggest complaint was they can no longer 'say certain things' 'use certain words' because political correctness.
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No need for personal attacks. Leave the uncharitable remarks to them.
Just some advice.
How about this, then? Anyone who supports a candidate with xenophobic, uninformed, misogynistic, racist views brings shame upon themselves?
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You know the Republicans did that before, and those Republican appointees upheld Roe v. Wade and made abortion legal. What new horror will they foist on the American public? A Trump appointee would mean "someone in Trump's pocket," as in doing his bidding, and Trump's bidding is good for Trump, not the American public.

If it were a Kasich appointee, or even a Cruz appointee, though I'm not fond of Cruz's ideology, then he or she could probably be trusted, but not a Trump appointee.
Yes I was there the story goes the Reps rescued us from the lies of the Democrats and southeast asia, and unfortunate we have tricky dicky who followed. There could be no new horror and the cycle repeats itself nor is anything unprecedented, but the democrats manifested by invocation all heresy and evil in this period of transition we here are all responsible for.

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How about this, then? Anyone who supports a candidate with xenophobic, uninformed, misogynistic, racist views brings shame upon themselves?
True. And I know one candidate who fits that description perfectly.
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I hope you feel the same when people call Hillary Clinton a "killer." There exists no evidence anywhere that she ever harmed anyone.

Licensed psychiatrists have called Trump far worse. In my opinion, he's a danger to the US and to the entire world. And I'm not basing my opinion of him as a liar on innuendo:

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/

http://www.politico.com/magazine/sto...sehoods-213730

http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...-went-bankrupt

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poste...stantly-lying/

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2015/1...t-Blatant-Lies

https://www.rawstory.com/2016/03/tru...ng-to-science/

I could fill this board with Trump's lies. I can't understand why anyone believes him. Even most Republicans have denounced him.
One candidate's confirmed lies, and that's just about a week's worth. Yeah, he'll rescue everyone.
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That is an illogical reason for endorsing Trump in the GOP primary, in which Hillary is not one of the candidates.
It certainly is illogical. One would think a vote would be endorsing Kasich or Cruz instead.
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Utter nonsense and not one actually did a personal analysis, their foolishness doesn't make yours permissible. And a baggage of chasing nothing in links doesn't make your case for the labeling, sory it doesn't wash any more than me saying the same about Obama and Hillary. You have no point here.
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And Trump's campaign manager is no better:

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/03/reve...ies-reporters/

I have to wonder why some Americans seem to this man would actually care about them? I don't think he cares about any American except one.
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It certainly is illogical. One would think a vote would be endorsing Kasich or Cruz instead.
Now your way out in outer space. Let me clue you in any American has the assimilated right as an American to vote for who-ever they choose. Its not for you to attempt to discourage in lost logic those who not only hold this right but many who earned it by paying for your seat on the freedom bus. Please spare us the nonsense. I wouldn't even say such looney things to democrats.
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This one would actually be funny if it weren't for the sad fact that this person has a chance of becoming president of the US:

https://www.rawstory.com/2016/03/tru...ng-to-science/

http://www.factcheck.org/2015/06/trump-tramples-facts/

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/...ia-gaffes-lies

http://www.salon.com/2016/03/05/the_...n_dont_buy_it/

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/03/...ling-lies.html

And they just go on and on and on and on and on.

Like Bernie, I think Mr. Trump is getting very nervous. And with good reason. He's given the Democratic nominee, whoever that turns out to be a lot of verbal ammunition to work with.

I'm no fan of Fox News or MSNBC, but I have to give Megyn Kelly her due for keeping her dignity in the face of totally unearned insults from this man. He's alienated African-Americans, Hispanics, Muslims, women, retirees, union workers, and just about every other group in the US.
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Sorry you have no point just a nonsensical rant. They just go on and on and on and on and on with Obama Hillary and Bernie too. I fail to see any realistic point only clanging cymbals. Let me know when you have a point to discuss. Indictment sheets its a tactical failure immediately rejected by anyone paying attention and with any candidate. But I already stated that so you decide to double down on playing chase games and indictment sheets. Please spare us the game playing. No rational reasonable conversation will be forthcoming as I said just basic name calling and accusations which one page ago all suggested everyone abandon, and look whos so quickly back on on their own hypocrisy.

Really amazing we are back to name calling and indictment sheets. I should play tit for tat? LOL.
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I have no idea what you're talking about. You must have me mistaken with someone else.

Like another poster, I never said people didn't have the right to vote for Trump, I just agreed with that poster that I can't understand why anyone would, and I further added that I can't understand why anyone would trust him.

I don't understand your posts. I'm not going to read any more of them. English isn't my MT, I only learned it eight years ago, and perhaps you use slang I don't understand. I don't know. I just know I can't make heads nor tails out of your posts.
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Reportedly, this is one of Trump's worst:

"When it comes to actual policy issues, Trump gets into the most trouble. He continues to claim that the United States has a $500 billion trade deficit with China, a fact that has been debunked and debunked. Trump also doesn’t settle lawsuits, according to his statement about Trump University in the last Republican debate. Except, he does settle lawsuits."

https://www.rawstory.com/2016/03/tru...ng-to-science/

Does he think we can't read and think? I don't know, but it seems so.

Says a lot:

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2...-ego-diversity

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I have no idea what you're talking about. You must have me mistaken with someone else.
No your not mistaken for anyone sorry your confused about that.

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Like another poster, I never said people didn't have the right to vote for Trump,.
So apparently you are understanding the conversation though badly but thats your issue not mine.

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I just agreed with that poster that I can't understand why anyone would, and I further added that I can't understand why anyone would trust him.
I feel the same about Obama Hillary and Bernie. You have a double standard and blatant cooperation with abortion another point you clearly understood .

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I don't understand your posts.
Clearly not true by your rant and conversation here.

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I'm not going to read any more of them. English isn't my MT,
Mine either but psychology is and yours is front and center as were the odd comments you made labeling others, another conversation you clearly understood.

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I only learned it eight years ago, and perhaps you use slang I don't understand. I don't know. I just know I can't make heads nor tails out of your posts.
This is dival but thanks for your rant and name calling and labeling with no points. Did you have a point to articulate anywhere? Or just more nonsensical rants and cute conversation? Which apparently now turned into the usual leftist personal attack .How predictable. 
 
 
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Says a lot from someone who actually knows and worked with Trump:

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2...-ego-diversity
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I guess you would like to debate the idea of self love as opposed to a low self esteem. Obama and Hillary and Bernie all egocentric. Difference, do you know? Think about it. One is not directed by others finance which means a great deal in the realm unselfish goals.
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Now your way out in outer space. Let me clue you in any American has the assimilated right as an American to vote for who-ever they choose. Its not for you to attempt to discourage in lost logic those who not only hold this right but many who earned it by paying for your seat on the freedom bus. Please spare us the nonsense. I wouldn't even say such looney things to democrats.
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Horrible things Trump has said about women. Historical facts, not opinion:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...c48_story.html
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Anyway as I stated you can read about all these accusations and with as I said especially Obama Hillary and Bernie. Just for example as I said I don't see indictment sheets as rational or reasonable conversation just agenda orientated.

http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/w...ma-gets-angry/

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No behavior there by any stretch of the imagination. Should post oh thirty or forty links of Obama Hillary and Bernie?

Horrible things Obama and Hillary and Bernie have done to women in their darkest hour they handed them a stone, they handed them a stone in the sea of iniquity not a life preserver.
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Trump's misogyny:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b05e4e37037cb5

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b07addcb442023

http://www.bustle.com/articles/13183...the-tip-of-the

I can understand people wanting "someone different," and "someone not connected to Washington or Wall Street money" but not this "someone." Definitely not "this" someone.
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Trump's misogyny:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b05e4e37037cb5

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b07addcb442023

http://www.bustle.com/articles/13183...the-tip-of-the

I can understand people wanting "someone different," and "someone not connected to Washington or Wall Street money" but not this "someone." Definitely not "this" someone.
These are old stories. You can beleive the medias interpretation of each incident. We shall see whether the majority of americans agree with you. Megyn kelly has discredited herself by dishonest reporting and biased debate moderating this season. She has lost credibility with many americnas. We shall see.
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Hillary misogyny:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0..._n_102242.html

http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...-works-against

http://www.americanthinker.com/artic..._misogyny.html

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Hillary professes to support women, but she actually supports those who treat women atrociously. Her husband is the worst sexual predator in American political history. This is not the problem Clinton had with his myriad affairs while married to Hillary, although that is what the left professes to be the issue.

The real problem was not whom he had consensual sex with while married – the Monica story was about Clinton's looking into the camera and lying to America – but the women he forced himself upon. The list of women making this accusation is long, and none of these women were Republicans. The story is depressingly familiar.

Paula Jones was crudely harassed as an Arkansas state employee by Governor Bill Clinton. President Bill Clinton groped a horrified Kathleen Wiley on the very day her husband had committed suicide. Arkansas attorney general Clinton beat and savagely raped Juanita Broaddrick, according to her utterly credible report.

Here is real misogyny, not the invented fantasies of crazy feminists. Here Hillary is either stonily silent or lashing out at these women, who made serious charges against her dishonest husband. How can someone like her be taken seriously when purporting to defend women?

Hillary also refuses to attack the most virulent and serious misogyny in the world today, a clear and present danger to women all over our planet: Islam. All religions are not equal regarding the status of women. Hindus in the twentieth century still practiced the suttee (ritual live immolation of widows) and sold young girls into temple prostitution (brides of the gods). Buddha taught that women were so far below men in the chain of reincarnation that it made no sense to have Buddhist nuns (he acceded, finally, because if it did no good, it did no harm, either.)

Worst, though, is Islam. The veil, thin or heavy and suffocating, is but an outward sign of this oppression. The ghastly practice of "female circumcision" is still endured by hundreds of millions of Moslem girls. Women in "strict" Moslem nations do not drive or vote or rise above the low status prescribed by Islam for women. This nightmare does not even end with death. Mohammed told his followers that most of the denizens of Hell are women.

Judaism, Zoroastrianism, and Bahá'í were notable for granting women much higher status than other old religions, but these four good faiths are relatively modest in numbers throughout the world, and the first two ceased proselytizing long ago.

The real defender of women's rights in the world today is Christianity. Indeed, one of the reasons Christians are mistreated and murdered in the Middle East and Africa today is specifically because a Christian society grants women rights Islam feels they should not have.

Christianity has been the historic inspiration for every global movement to advance equality and humanity toward women. Christian women battled for women's suffrage in the West and fought Gandhi in defense of the women of India. The Roman Empire embraced the oppressed faith of Christianity, in large measure, because it first preached the spiritual equality of women.

Anyone who truly cares about the condition of women in the world today champions these brave Christians and denounces the dangers of Islam to women. Hillary is no friend of women at all, however much she bleats differently. She is an apologist for those true misogynists who accept the purist version of Islam, and so Hillary drearily recites the familiar leftist cant that "Islam is not our enemy" even as Islamists all over the world oppress women.
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These are old stories. You can beleive the medias interpretation of each incident. We shall see whether the majority of americans agree with you.
What he said is what he said. They are historical facts, so yes, of course some are old. Others are things he said during this primary campaign, so are recent. And I do believe he will be the Republican nominee if he wins the number of delegates, but I don't think he'll come out the winner in a brokered or contested convention.

As for winning the general if he is the nominee, I think it would be close, but I don't think he'd win. He's alienated too many groups of persons. But time will tell, and I'm prepared to suffer through four years of him should it come to that. If he loses, though, it'll clear the way for a Democratic Congress. It's too bad the Republicans couldn't have seen their way to vote for someone with dignity who seems to genuinely care, John Kasich, and doesn't have a horrible record of human mistreatment the Democrats can hold against him.
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What he said is what he said. They are historical facts, so yes, of course they are old. And I do believe he will be the Republican nominee if he wins the number of delegates, but I don't think he'll come out the winner in a brokered or contested convention.

As for winning the general if he is the nominee, I think it would be close, but I don't think he'd win. He's alienated too many groups of persons. But time will tell, and I'm prepared to suffer through four years of him should it come to that. If he loses, though, it'll clear the way for a Democratic Congress. It's too bad the Republicans couldn't have seen their way to vote for someone with dignity who seems to genuinely care and doesn't have a horrible record of human mistreatment the Democrats can hold against him.
Everything requires an interpretation. Never consider a media story a black and white factual statement without personal opinion. A sentence someone says can be twisted and turned so easily in many directions. Nuances are often taken for granted.
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There were no nuances in those reports. Even Trump himself doesn't deny saying them, so when it comes from the proverbial horse's mouth, I believe it.

And I heard some of his rally speeches on TV myself. I heard the lies. Especially when he said he never filed bankruptcy or settled a lawsuit. I didn't need the media to tell me that wasn't true. I already knew it.

I used to own my own PR agency and still work for some in the medical and dental profession because it pays so well. I can't make $250/hour teaching, but I can in PR. That experience made me very, very good at fact checking. And "digging up" what needed to be dug up.
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There were no nuances in those reports. Even Trump himself doesn't deny saying them, so when it comes from the proverbial horse's mouth, I believe it.

And I heard some of his rally speeches on TV myself. I heard the lies. Especially when he said he never filed bankruptcy or settled a lawsuit. I didn't need the media to tell me that wasn't true. I already knew it.

I used to own my own PR agency and still work for some in the medical and dental profession because it pays so well. I can't make $250/hour teaching, but I can in PR. That experience made me very, very good at fact checking. And "digging up" what needed to be dug up.
He never did file a personal bankruptcy. That's truth. His four companies did but not himself.
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He never did file a personal bankruptcy. That's truth. His four companies did but not himself.
Splitting hairs. And he doesn't own the steak and wine companies he tried to give the impression he owns. I owned a very successful tee-shirt company one time, but someone else owns it now - it was acquired - so it would be misleading of me to say I now "own" it. The shirts till carry my name, but I do not own any part of the company.

No nuance is required when he said of Carly Fiorina, "Look at her face. Who would vote for that face?" As Fiorina said, every woman in America heard what he said. It requires no interpretation.

I'm kind of glad it looks like he'll be the Republican nominee. He's the easiest to beat. People want the circus sideshow to go on, so they vote for Trump in the primary, but when it comes to making him president, I think the people are going to resort to that master virtue - prudence.

I don't think anyone said he filed a personal bankruptcy. Trump denied he filed bankruptcy on behalf of his companies. That's not true.
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These are old stories. You can beleive the medias interpretation of each incident. We shall see whether the majority of americans agree with you. Megyn kelly has discredited herself by dishonest reporting and biased debate moderating this season. She has lost credibility with many americnas. We shall see.
What did Megyn Kelly do that was dishonest? I know she doesn't like Trump, but I don't know of her doing anything dishonest.

Trump had a lot of personal liability, especially in the first bankruptcy:

http://www.thestreet.com/story/13286...kruptcies.html

...but granted, it was a business. I don't think anyone said it wasn't, only that he had a lot of personal liability tied up in them, especially the first one, which is true.

I'm not one who cares about Trump's bankruptcies. When one owns a lot of businesses, some of them are bound to fail. What I care about are his disparaging remarks about women and his flip-flopping on the issues.

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And they wonder why people are angry and are supporting trump in droves?! We're so sick and tired of the media who think they can control our mind.
Just because we are angry at the system doesn't mean we should run headlong to someone who is willing to totally destroy it. Trump will do that to everyone who doesn't agree with him. Like I said before, he scares me. We need to fix the system, not destroy it or make it a Trump system. We need to clear our minds and think of what is truly best for the future of our country. Repairing the damage takes years to do, if ever. Our kids will suffer more than we will. God Bless, Memaw
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Just because we are angry at the system doesn't mean we should run headlong to someone who is willing to totally destroy it. Trump will do that to everyone who doesn't agree with him. Like I said before, he scares me. We need to fix the system, not destroy it or make it a Trump system. We need to clear our minds and think of what is truly best for the future of our country. Repairing the damage takes years to do, if ever. Our kids will suffer more than we will. God Bless, Memaw


As usual, you said it right, Memaw! God bless you!

I'm somewhat upset with the system, but I don't want Trump making a bad thing worse or even unfixable. I want someone honest, who genuinely cares about the American people to at least try to make it better for all, especially the much put-upon middle class and working poor.
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Just because we are angry at the system doesn't mean we should run headlong to someone who is willing to totally destroy it. Trump will do that to everyone who doesn't agree with him. Like I said before, he scares me. We need to fix the system, not destroy it or make it a Trump system. We need to clear our minds and think of what is truly best for the future of our country. Repairing the damage takes years to do, if ever. Our kids will suffer more than we will. God Bless, Memaw
When will you accept that we have legitimate differences in opinion? I find cruz scary not trump.
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Splitting hairs. And he doesn't own the steak and wine companies he tried to give the impression he owns. I owned a very successful tee-shirt company one time, but someone else owns it now - it was acquired - so it would be misleading of me to say I now "own" it. The shirts till carry my name, but I do not own any part of the company.
So your licensing your name/brand to others as Trump is doing?. How much involvement do you have and that in the nutshell is the issue with buying his name/brand. How much are you involved?
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When will you accept that we have legitimate differences in opinion? I find cruz scary not trump.
Legitimate differences are fine. People have the right to support whoever they want. What I don't think is okay is to call any candidate names, and that includes the Democrats. None of the candidates is lily-white. None.
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I'm with you on this.
I agree as well.

But may I also say, I think there's a risk of focusing too much on the negative (pro-Trump) stuff. I am convinced, convinced, that the reason that discourse on this forum revolves around Trump is not because of how many Trump-supporters are here, but rather because well-meaning Cruz/Rubio/Kasich supporters get caught in the "Trump trap" (if you will).

By way of comparison, remember how little (and I mean little) discussion there was -- on this Catholic forum mind you! -- about the open letter from George and Weigle. Surely that didn't help our cause.
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These are old stories. You can beleive the medias interpretation of each incident. We shall see whether the majority of americans agree with you. Megyn kelly has discredited herself by dishonest reporting and biased debate moderating this season. She has lost credibility with many americnas. We shall see.
So what if they're old stories? It doesn't make them untrue.

Megan Kelly asked smart and pertinent questions and was ready to point out Trump's falsehoods and inconsistencies. That's called good journalism.
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Just because we are angry at the system doesn't mean we should run headlong to someone who is willing to totally destroy it. Trump will do that to everyone who doesn't agree with him. Like I said before, he scares me. We need to fix the system, not destroy it or make it a Trump system. We need to clear our minds and think of what is truly best for the future of our country. Repairing the damage takes years to do, if ever. Our kids will suffer more than we will. God Bless, Memaw
You're so right. Being angry is hardly a reason to vote for someone who stirs up hate and lacks basic decency. That folks who call themselves Christian have flocked to him is simply astonishing and shocking.

We would be horrified if our children acted in the manner that Trump does - boastful, lying, hateful - but yet millions of people have voted for him. We are on our way to he** in a hand basket.
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You're so right. Being angry is hardly a reason to vote for someone who stirs up hate and lacks basic decency. That folks who call themselves Christian have flocked to him is simply astonishing and shocking.

We would be horrified if our children acted in the manner that Trump does - boastful, lying, hateful - but yet millions of people have voted for him. We are on our way to he** in a hand basket.
I agree with you.

A president should be a role model for younger people. The office of the president is the highest in the US. It should be filled with a person who acts in a dignified and adult manner at all times. I know no one is perfect, but Trump really tips the boat in the opposite direction. We sure don't want our young boys growing up to disrespect women, and that's just for starters.
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I agree with you.

A president should be a role model for younger people. The office of the president is the highest in the US. It should be filled with a person who acts in a dignified and adult manner at all times. I know no one is perfect, but Trump really tips the boat in the opposite direction. We sure don't want our young boys growing up to disrespect women, and that's just for starters.
Just to play devil's advocate for the moment, I think Bill Clinton was a good President despite his treatment of women, and the latter was, one must admit, pretty bad.
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As bad as Trump is, his level of divisive rhetoric in no way approaches what has been typical for the left, and the Democratic party up into its highest reaches.

He has brought the GOP down for sure, but no where near as low as the Democratic party already is.
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Just to play devil's advocate for the moment, I think Bill Clinton was a good President despite his treatment of women, and the latter was, one must admit, pretty bad.
I think Bill's problem was that he actually liked women too much; Trump's seems to be that he really doesn't like them at all.
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I agree with you.

A president should be a role model for younger people. The office of the president is the highest in the US. It should be filled with a person who acts in a dignified and adult manner at all times. I know no one is perfect, but Trump really tips the boat in the opposite direction. We sure don't want our young boys growing up to disrespect women, and that's just for starters.
So true.

You know, I think that most Trump supporters realize how unfit he is to serve as President; it's not as if he's hiding his vulgarity, but rather reveling in it. They are just so angry and ready to "stick it to the establishment", however, that they are willing to ignore the facts. There are several decent, responsible candidates with good records running (Kasich comes first to mind) but many folks have turned instead to an ill-prepared, self-centered bully-boy. Scary times.
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As bad as Trump is, his level of divisive rhetoric in no way approaches what has been typical for the left, and the Democratic party up into its highest reaches.

He has brought the GOP down for sure, but no where near as low as the Democratic party already is.
We have to hold on to the hope that we can have a Cruz-Clinton matchup in November (and then win it, of course ) instead of Trump-Clinton. I don't see a hope of the Dems nominating a good candidate, now or ...
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I don't think Cruz would beat Clinton, while a Trump-Clinton matchup would be much closer. Do not underestimate the power of the Clintons.
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I don't think Cruz would beat Clinton, while a Trump-Clinton matchup would be much closer. Do not underestimate the power of the Clintons.
I don't think Cruz could ever beat Clinton. She might not even have to campaign. I think Clinton would beat Trump, but I think it would be close. But then, I don't think Trump will be nominated, not unless he wins both Florida and Ohio tonight, and I'm hoping Kasich can squeak by him in Ohio. Kasich is a very popular governor.
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So true.

You know, I think that most Trump supporters realize how unfit he is to serve as President; it's not as if he's hiding his vulgarity, but rather reveling in it. They are just so angry and ready to "stick it to the establishment", however, that they are willing to ignore the facts. There are several decent, responsible candidates with good records running (Kasich comes first to mind) but many folks have turned instead to an ill-prepared, self-centered bully-boy. Scary times.
I agree with you, I think that's what they're doing, and I think Trump is using that anger. I don't think he would help anyone but the rich.

Kasich is experienced and dignified. It's a shame he's not doing better. I just hope he denies Trump Ohio.
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There are no good choices on the Democrat side, only worse ones.

Trump is more to the liking of a lot of Democrats that Cruz. It does share the same kind of values (for lack of a better word) that many on the left hold.
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There are no good choices on the Democrat side, only worse ones.

Trump is more to the liking of a lot of Democrats that Cruz. It does share the same kind of values (for lack of a better word) that many on the left hold.
You're exactly right. And doesn't that speak to the absolute nuttiness of these Republican primaries?
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You're exactly right. And doesn't that speak to the absolute nuttiness of these Republican primaries?
There were a lot of good and interesting choices to be had on the GOP side of the ledger, from a conservative or even moderate point of view. The field contained a plethora of different points of view, and viable candidates from a wide variety of backgrounds that really covered the full mosaic of the American experience.

There was only the one that shared the same lack of quality as the existing Democratic candidates. It is quite perverse that the one bad choice is the one that has risen to the top of the pack for the GOP.
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There were a lot of good and interesting choices to be had on the GOP side of the ledger, from a conservative or even moderate point of view. The field contained a plethora of different points of view, and viable candidates from a wide variety of backgrounds that really covered the full mosaic of the American experience.

There was only the one that shared the same lack of quality as the existing Democratic candidates. It is quite perverse that the one bad choice is the one that has risen to the top of the pack for the GOP.
Well put. And so true
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I have no idea what you're talking about. You must have me mistaken with someone else.

Like another poster, I never said people didn't have the right to vote for Trump, I just agreed with that poster that I can't understand why anyone would, and I further added that I can't understand why anyone would trust him.

I don't understand your posts. I'm not going to read any more of them. English isn't my MT, I only learned it eight years ago, and perhaps you use slang I don't understand. I don't know. I just know I can't make heads nor tails out of your posts.
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Default Re: Phyllis Schlafly endorses Trump in St. Louis

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There were a lot of good and interesting choices to be had on the GOP side of the ledger, from a conservative or even moderate point of view. The field contained a plethora of different points of view, and viable candidates from a wide variety of backgrounds that really covered the full mosaic of the American experience.

There was only the one that shared the same lack of quality as the existing Democratic candidates. It is quite perverse that the one bad choice is the one that has risen to the top of the pack for the GOP.
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Old Mar 16, '16, 8:25 am
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Default Re: Phyllis Schlafly endorses Trump in St. Louis

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Horrible things Trump has said about women. Historical facts, not opinion:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...c48_story.html
And Hillary is all for killing baby women, whats worse!!! God Bless, Memaw
 
 
 
 
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I agree with you.

A president should be a role model for younger people. The office of the president is the highest in the US. It should be filled with a person who acts in a dignified and adult manner at all times. I know no one is perfect, but Trump really tips the boat in the opposite direction. We sure don't want our young boys growing up to disrespect women, and that's just for starters.
Yes, we need someone who is HONEST and will do everything to protect our young, especially the VERY young, not yet born. Abortion shows the greatest disrespect for baby women. I am NOT a Trump fan but would vote for him over either Hillary or Bernie, who are both strong pro-abortion. God Bless, Memaw
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