(Hillary) Clinton makes surprise appearance at NYC gay pride parade

Jun 29, '16, 4:36 pm

Dwyer Regular Member   Join Date: February 26, 2007 Posts: 1,361 Religion: Byzantine Catholic

(Hillary) Clinton makes surprise appearance at NYC gay pride parade Quote: Hillary Clinton joined New York City's annual gay pride parade Sunday afternoon, making a surprise appearance alongside Mayor Bill de Blasio, Gov. Andrew Cuomo, and Rev. Al Sharpton. Clinton joined revelers near the Stonewall Inn, the site where the modern gay rights movement took root. It was recently declared national monument. The campaign's supporters were out in full force with the presumptive Democratic nominee during the parade, which fell this year on the first anniversary of a landmark Supreme Court decision legalizing same-sex marriage nationwide. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-...-pride-parade/ Media is full of chatter about how Donald Trump changes his position on various political issues. It is not reported or talked about in this CBS news story or on CNN that as a U.S. Senator Hillary Clinton stated in 2004 on the U.S. Senate Floor: Quote: "I believe that Marriage is not just a bond but a Sacred bond between a man and a woman . . ." See video from 2004 at Michelle Malkin.com: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-...-pride-parade/ __________________ "It's a free country; you can say whatever you want." --Old American Saying (U.S. Postal Service stamp-- from 1977 Americana series which extols freedom of speech and features a Speaker's Stand decorated with an American Flag shield.)

#2   Jun 29, '16, 4:51 pm

Joseph3 Banned   Join Date: March 17, 2016 Posts: 2,137 Religion: Catholic

Re: (Hillary) Clinton makes surprise appearance at NYC gay pride parade She is so liberal. She was at the parade with her leftist cohorts too. She will continue severely damaging America if she gets elected.

#3   Jun 29, '16, 4:58 pm

adamhovey1988 Regular Member   Join Date: February 12, 2015 Posts: 3,745 Religion: Christian-Catholic (Latin), my religion IS my relationship

Re: (Hillary) Clinton makes surprise appearance at NYC gay pride parade I don't like Trump (mainly for inflammatory things he said about American Indians) or Mrs. Clinton in terms of politics (who knows? They may cook well). But, if I recall correctly, wasn't it Bill that signed the Defense of Marriage act into law? __________________ Check out my apologetics channel, subscribe if you'd like https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9E...tsEcLVRezZT9pA My blog http://adamcharleshovey.blogspot.com

#4   Jun 29, '16, 5:17 pm

Dwyer Regular Member   Join Date: February 26, 2007 Posts: 1,361 Religion: Byzantine Catholic

Re: (Hillary) Clinton makes surprise appearance at NYC gay pride parade It is not reported or talked about in this CBS news story or on CNN that as a U.S. Senator Hillary Clinton stated in 2004 on the U.S. Senate Floor: Quote: "I believe that Marriage is not just a bond but a Sacred bond between a man and a woman . . ." See video from 2004 at Michelle Malkin.com (correct link added): http://michellemalkin.com/2016/06/27...-orlando-club/ __________________ "It's a free country; you can say whatever you want." --Old American Saying (U.S. Postal Service stamp-- from 1977 Americana series which extols freedom of speech and features a Speaker's Stand decorated with an American Flag shield.)

#5   Jun 29, '16, 5:24 pm

Monkey1976 Regular Member   Join Date: May 1, 2007 Posts: 2,427 Religion: Catholic

Re: (Hillary) Clinton makes surprise appearance at NYC gay pride parade Quote: Originally Posted by adamhovey1988 I don't like Trump (mainly for inflammatory things he said about American Indians) or Mrs. Clinton in terms of politics (who knows? They may cook well). But, if I recall correctly, wasn't it Bill that signed the Defense of Marriage act into law? You're forgetting the Rules of Reporting #34: If a Democrat changes positions, that's an evolution and to be applauded. If a Republican changes positions, that's flip-flopping and to be roundly mocked.

#6   Jun 29, '16, 6:23 pm

Good Tidings Regular Member   Join Date: December 19, 2013 Posts: 1,690

Re: (Hillary) Clinton makes surprise appearance at NYC gay pride parade Quote: Originally Posted by Dwyer It is not reported or talked about in this CBS news story or on CNN that as a U.S. Senator Hillary Clinton stated in 2004 on the U.S. Senate Floor: See video from 2004 at Michelle Malkin.com (correct link added): http://michellemalkin.com/2016/06/27...-orlando-club/ i wouldn't be surprised that she (or anyone) said that in 2004. Things have changed since then. BTY it wasn't that big of a surprise that she showed up. It was reported at least a week before she attended.

#7   Jun 29, '16, 6:52 pm

Dwyer Regular Member   Join Date: February 26, 2007 Posts: 1,361 Religion: Byzantine Catholic

Re: (Hillary) Clinton makes surprise appearance at NYC gay pride parade Quote: Originally Posted by Good Tidings i wouldn't be surprised that she (or anyone) said that in 2004. Things have changed since then. BTY it wasn't that big of a surprise that she showed up. It was reported at least a week before she attended. I have to disagree with your assessment of 2004. Gay Marriage legalization was a political issue in 2004. For example, Michigan banned recognition of same-sex marriage and same-sex unions in any form through an amendment to the state constitution passed into law by popular vote in 2004. __________________ "It's a free country; you can say whatever you want." --Old American Saying (U.S. Postal Service stamp-- from 1977 Americana series which extols freedom of speech and features a Speaker's Stand decorated with an American Flag shield.)

#8   Jun 29, '16, 7:05 pm

Good Tidings Regular Member   Join Date: December 19, 2013 Posts: 1,690

Re: (Hillary) Clinton makes surprise appearance at NYC gay pride parade Quote: Originally Posted by Dwyer I have to disagree with your assessment of 2004. Gay Marriage legalization was a political issue in 2004. For example, Michigan banned recognition of same-sex marriage and same-sex unions in any form through an amendment to the state constitution passed into law by popular vote in 2004. That's my point.

#9   Jun 29, '16, 9:18 pm

meltzerboy Forum Elder   Join Date: January 24, 2011 Posts: 26,619 Religion: Jewish

Re: (Hillary) Clinton makes surprise appearance at NYC gay pride parade Quote: Originally Posted by Monkey1976 You're forgetting the Rules of Reporting #34: If a Democrat changes positions, that's an evolution and to be applauded. If a Republican changes positions, that's flip-flopping and to be roundly mocked. I think the time period of the change in position matters. Overnight conversions, particularly in an election year, are more suspect than those which take several months or years.

#10   Jun 29, '16, 9:18 pm

zamyrabyrd Regular Member   Join Date: September 25, 2014 Posts: 1,073 Religion: Catholic

Re: (Hillary) Clinton makes surprise appearance at NYC gay pride parade Quote: Originally Posted by Dwyer For example, Michigan banned recognition of same-sex marriage and same-sex unions in any form through an amendment to the state constitution passed into law by popular vote in 2004. That's just the point. If it weren't for a pyramid dictating downwards policy, most of these laws would have never seen the light of day. Meanwhile, people became acclimatized to them, and public opinion went in the direction of what was already decided by the courts.

#11   Jun 29, '16, 11:11 pm

Dwyer Regular Member   Join Date: February 26, 2007 Posts: 1,361 Religion: Byzantine Catholic

Re: (Hillary) Clinton makes surprise appearance at NYC gay pride parade So, Mrs. Clinton, having stated in 2004: "I believe that Marriage is not just a bond but a Sacred bond between a man and a woman . . ." fully flip flops on the Gay Marriage issue and does whatever is politically expedient to gain as many votes as possible and CNN's Chris Cuomo and Pamela Brown, both of whom had Democratic State Governor parents, as well as the Cable and Local TV Media at large never criticize Mrs. Clinton for the switch, but Cuomo and CNN has criticized Trump several times for attending a Gay Wedding in 2012 and stating to a former Star Trek TV series actor right after attending the gay wedding that he was for traditional marriage. __________________ "It's a free country; you can say whatever you want." --Old American Saying (U.S. Postal Service stamp-- from 1977 Americana series which extols freedom of speech and features a Speaker's Stand decorated with an American Flag shield.) Last edited by Dwyer; Jun 29, '16 at 11:25 pm.

#12   Jun 29, '16, 11:24 pm

zamyrabyrd Regular Member   Join Date: September 25, 2014 Posts: 1,073 Religion: Catholic

Re: (Hillary) Clinton makes surprise appearance at NYC gay pride parade Quote: Originally Posted by Dwyer So, Mrs. Clinton, having stated in 2004: "I believe that Marriage is not just a bond but a Sacred bond between a man and a woman . . ." fully flip flops on the Gay Marriage issue and does whatever is politically expedient to gain as many votes as possible and CNN's Chris Cuomo and Pamela Brown, both of whom had Democratic State Governor parents, never criticize Mrs. Clinton for the switch, but Cuomo and CNN has criticized Trump several times for attending a Gay Wedding in 2012 and stating to a former Star Trek TV series actor right after attending the gay wedding that he was for traditional marriage. Given all the scandals emanating from the Clinton's, what kind of sacred bond was she talking about? Open marriage, maybe?

#13   Jun 29, '16, 11:30 pm

Dwyer Regular Member   Join Date: February 26, 2007 Posts: 1,361 Religion: Byzantine Catholic

Re: (Hillary) Clinton makes surprise appearance at NYC gay pride parade Quote: Originally Posted by zamyrabyrd Given all the scandals emanating from the Clinton's, what kind of sacred bond was she talking about? Open marriage, maybe? There haven't been any public accusations that Mrs. Clinton has committed Adultery. __________________ "It's a free country; you can say whatever you want." --Old American Saying (U.S. Postal Service stamp-- from 1977 Americana series which extols freedom of speech and features a Speaker's Stand decorated with an American Flag shield.)

#14   Jun 30, '16, 2:37 am

zamyrabyrd Regular Member   Join Date: September 25, 2014 Posts: 1,073 Religion: Catholic

Re: (Hillary) Clinton makes surprise appearance at NYC gay pride parade Quote: Originally Posted by Dwyer There haven't been any public accusations that Mrs. Clinton has committed Adultery. Other insinuations but would be uncharitable to mention. Enabling is not so grand either.

#15   Jun 30, '16, 5:13 pm

Little Sheep Regular Member   Join Date: January 4, 2016 Posts: 1,766 Religion: Episcopalian

Re: (Hillary) Clinton makes surprise appearance at NYC gay pride parade Quote: Originally Posted by zamyrabyrd Other insinuations but would be uncharitable to mention. Enabling is not so grand either. Enabling? Doesn't the Catholic Church teach that fidelity to ones marital vows is sacrosanct?      Jun 30, '16, 8:25 pm zamyrabyrd Regular Member   Join Date: September 25, 2014 Posts: 1,073 Religion: Catholic Re: (Hillary) Clinton makes surprise appearance at NYC gay pride parade Quote: Originally Posted by Little Sheep Enabling? Doesn't the Catholic Church teach that fidelity to ones marital vows is sacrosanct? Enabling is not only covering up for the peccadilloes of one's spouse but harassing the victims.