Name some great Catholic knights in fiction or history

Aug 11, '16, 10:45 pm

souldiver Junior Member   Join Date: March 2, 2012 Posts: 382 Religion: None (Atheist)

Name some great Catholic knights in fiction or history I think there's a handful that even became saints. List them here. Or maybe you could give a small description. __________________ Opponents must be gently instructed, in the hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth. -2 Timothy 2: 25 Last edited by souldiver; Aug 11, '16 at 10:55 pm.

#2   Aug 12, '16, 6:04 am

commenter Regular Member   Join Date: April 21, 2011 Posts: 3,583 Religion: Catholic

Re: Name some great Catholic knights in fiction or history Quote: Originally Posted by souldiver I think there's a handful that even became saints. List them here. Or maybe you could give a small description. Fr. Michael McGivney

#3   Aug 12, '16, 6:20 am

Entwhistler Junior Member   Join Date: May 21, 2015 Posts: 453 Religion: Catholic

Re: Name some great Catholic knights in fiction or history Probably the greatest Crusader spiritual-wise was St. Louis IX of France who led the Seventh (which was the more successful of the two) and Eighth (in which in died) Crusades. He was a just king and even sent out special investigators to look into fraud and injustice that would creep into high offices. There is actually an account of St. Louis' Seventh Crusade told by a Muslim chronicler. The link is below. It is quite fascinating. http://sourcebooks.fordham.edu/source/Makrisi.asp __________________ Do not be hasty.

#4   Aug 12, '16, 6:40 am

powerofk Regular Member   Join Date: May 22, 2013 Posts: 1,806 Religion: Catholic

Re: Name some great Catholic knights in fiction or history St. Thomas More, though his knighthood was, like today, simply an honorific. As per fiction and/or legend - King Arthur and all of his court were Catholic (though in the King Arthur film of 2003, they were depicted as followers of the Pelagianism heresy - though they didn't know that Pelagius had been condemned as a heretic).

#5   Aug 12, '16, 8:34 pm

Inisfallen Regular Member   Join Date: November 9, 2013 Posts: 1,477 Religion: Catholic

Re: Name some great Catholic knights in fiction or history Sir Wilfred Ivanhoe (fictional, of course).

#6   Aug 13, '16, 1:06 am

souldiver Junior Member   Join Date: March 2, 2012 Posts: 382 Religion: None (Atheist)

Re: Name some great Catholic knights in fiction or history Thanks, I would read more about them. Keep them coming. __________________ Opponents must be gently instructed, in the hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth. -2 Timothy 2: 25

#7   Aug 13, '16, 7:52 am

powerofk Regular Member   Join Date: May 22, 2013 Posts: 1,806 Religion: Catholic

Re: Name some great Catholic knights in fiction or history Then there were Charles Martel, king of the Franks, who defeated the army of the Islamic caliphate, preventing them from moving out of Spain. And of course, his grandson, Charlemagne, who was crowned "Holy Roman Emperor" by the Pope himself on Christmas Day in the year AD 800. Of course, Charlemagne was not only a real king, but had many legends and folklore that accompanied him, as well, primarily dealing with "Charlemagne and his 12 Paladins" (which probably influenced the Brittany French versions of the King Arthur story; these came into England with the Norman invasion).

#8   Aug 14, '16, 11:56 am

Rhubarb Regular Member   Join Date: December 21, 2004 Posts: 1,814 Religion: Agnostic

Re: Name some great Catholic knights in fiction or history The ingenious gentleman Don Quixote of La Mancha?

#9   Aug 14, '16, 12:34 pm

Entwhistler Junior Member   Join Date: May 21, 2015 Posts: 453 Religion: Catholic

Re: Name some great Catholic knights in fiction or history Quote: Originally Posted by Rhubarb The ingenious gentleman Don Quixote of La Mancha? And his only slightly less glorious compatriot, Sancho Panza. __________________ Do not be hasty.

#10   Aug 14, '16, 1:00 pm

Hatikvah Regular Member   Join Date: November 20, 2015 Posts: 1,361 Religion: Protestant

Re: Name some great Catholic knights in fiction or history St. Ignatius of Loyola, SJ, Spanish knight (1491-1556). He is historical, not fictional. Yes, he was a real Spanish (Basque) knight, he is one of the patron saints of the military (along with St. Michael the Archangel, etc) and he went on to found the Jesuits with St. Francis Xavier and some other canonized people. There's an image of the saint in his armor here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignati...(militant).jpg

#11   Aug 14, '16, 2:28 pm

Cheiron Banned   Join Date: June 9, 2016 Posts: 348 Religion: Secular Humanism

Re: Name some great Catholic knights in fiction or history Absalon (1128-1301). Closest advisor of king Valdemar; Bishop of Roskilde; Archbishop of Lund and founder of Copenhagen. Absalon fought many campaigns against the Wends, a Slavic people that lived in what is now northern Germany and northern Poland. Absalon was not your average man of the cloth.

#12   Aug 14, '16, 2:48 pm

Dwyer Regular Member   Join Date: February 26, 2007 Posts: 1,361 Religion: Byzantine Catholic

Re: Name some great Catholic knights in fiction or history Quote: Originally Posted by Cheiron Absalon (1128-1301). Closest advisor of king Valdemar; Bishop of Roskilde; Archbishop of Lund and founder of Copenhagen. Absalon fought many campaigns against the Wends, a Slavic people that lived in what is now northern Germany and northern Poland. Absalon was not your average man of the cloth. He wasn't really a knight; he was a fighting Bishop. __________________ "It's a free country; you can say whatever you want." --Old American Saying (U.S. Postal Service stamp-- from 1977 Americana series which extols freedom of speech and features a Speaker's Stand decorated with an American Flag shield.)

#13   Aug 14, '16, 3:10 pm

Dwyer Regular Member   Join Date: February 26, 2007 Posts: 1,361 Religion: Byzantine Catholic

Re: Name some great Catholic knights in fiction or history From Geoffrey Chaucer's (c. 1343 – 25 October 1400) The Canterbury Tales: General Prologue: (the numbers indicate the number of the line of the poem) Bifil that in that seson, on a day, 20 In Southwerk at the Tabard as I lay Redy to wenden on my pilgrymage To Caunterbury with ful devout corage, At nyght was come into that hostelrye Wel nyne and twenty in a compaignye 25 Of sondry folk, by aventure yfalle In felaweshipe, and pilgrimes were they alle, That toward Caunterbury wolden ryde. The chambres and the stables weren wyde, And wel we weren esed atte beste; 30 And shortly, whan the sonne was to reste, So hadde I spoken with hem everichon That I was of hir felaweshipe anon, And made forward erly for to ryse To take our wey, ther as I yow devyse. 35 But nathelees, whil I have tyme and space, Er that I ferther in this tale pace, Me thynketh it acordaunt to resoun To telle yow al the condicioun Of ech of hem, so as it semed me, 40 And whiche they weren, and of what degree, And eek in what array that they were inne; And at a knyght than wol I first bigynne. A KNYGHT ther was, and that a worthy man, That fro the tyme that he first bigan 45 To riden out, he loved chivalrie, Trouthe and honour, fredom and curteisie. Ful worthy was he in his lordes werre, And therto hadde he riden, no man ferre, As wel in cristendom as in hethenesse, 50 And evere honoured for his worthynesse. At Alisaundre he was, whan it was wonne. Ful ofte tyme he hadde the bord bigonne Aboven alle nacions in Pruce; In Lettow hadde he reysed, and in Ruce, 55 No Cristen man so ofte of his degree. In Gernade at the seege eek hadde he be Of Algezir, and riden in Belmarye. At Lyeys was he and at Satalye, Whan they were wonne; and in the Grete See 60 At many a noble armee hadde he be. At mortal batailles hadde he been fiftene, And foughten for oure feith at Tramyssene In lystes thries, and ay slayn his foo. This ilke worthy knyght hadde been also 65 Somtyme with the lord of Palatye Agayn another hethen in Turkye. And everemoore he hadde a sovereyn prys; And though that he were worthy, he was wys, And of his port as meeke as is a mayde. 70 He nevere yet no vileynye ne sayde In al his lyf unto no maner wight. He was a verray, parfit gentil knyght. But, for to tellen yow of his array, His hors were goode, but he was nat gay. 75 Of fustian he wered a gypon Al bismotered with his habergeoun, For he was late ycome from his viage, And wente for to doon his pilgrymage. Image of Chaucer's Knight based on the Ellesmere Manuscript miniature: http://d.lib.rochester.edu/camelot/i...acaulay-knight Quote: Geoffrey Chaucer (/ˈtʃɔːsər/; c. 1343 – 25 October 1400), known as the Father of English literature,[1] is widely considered the greatest English poet of the Middle Ages and was the first poet to be buried in Poets' Corner of Westminster Abbey . . . Chaucer's work was crucial in legitimizing the literary use of the Middle English vernacular at a time when the dominant literary languages in England were French and Latin. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoffrey_Chaucer __________________ "It's a free country; you can say whatever you want." --Old American Saying (U.S. Postal Service stamp-- from 1977 Americana series which extols freedom of speech and features a Speaker's Stand decorated with an American Flag shield.)

#14   Aug 19, '16, 1:20 pm

John Lazarus Regular Member   Join Date: January 24, 2010 Posts: 4,568

Re: Name some great Catholic knights in fiction or history From the legendary side, I would venture Roland and his Paladins. From reality, Hugues de Payens, first grandmaster of the Poor Knights of Christ (aka the Knights Templar), plus at least all the early knights (like Godfrey de Saint-Omer and André de Montbard) before the accusations of blasphemy/heresy. Joan of Arc. William Wallace. El Cid. What religion is Sir Rodney of Id? :hmm: __________________ "I wouldn't touch that with a ten-foot pole." — Vlad II, Voivode of Wallachia

#15   Aug 21, '16, 12:07 pm

CarolNoel Regular Member   Join Date: February 12, 2013 Posts: 2,369 Religion: Catholic - Forever

Re: Name some great Catholic knights in fiction or history John Coo, one of my grandfather ancestors on my father's side. __________________ When you feel like you are drowning in life, don't worry. Your LIFEGUARD walks on water.     Aug 21, '16, 7:25 pm Joseph3 Banned   Join Date: March 17, 2016 Posts: 2,137 Religion: Catholic Re: Name some great Catholic knights in fiction or history A good fictional Catholic knight is Captain Phoebus from The Hunchback of Notre Dame. He refuses to commit evil acts that he is ordered to do by Judge Claude Frollo. He understands the true Christian message unlike Frollo, who uses Christianity to justify evil.   #17   Aug 22, '16, 7:04 am redbaron162 Junior Member   Join Date: February 25, 2014 Posts: 389 Religion: Catholic Re: Name some great Catholic knights in fiction or history Here is a list of Saints and Blesseds who were knights. http://catholicsaints.info/saints-who-were-knights/ Also Blessed Gerard, founder of the Knights Hospitaller. For some soldiers saints from before the times of the Knights here are some Roman soldiers who became saints: Saint Marten of Tours was often considered the Patron Saint of Knights. Saint George was often cited as the Patron Saint of English Knights My patron saint, Saint Maurice, was the commander of the Theban Roman Legion and was martyred for refusing to kill Christians and make sacrifices to the Roman Emperor. You can often find stained glass windows of him in knightly armor.