why pope will not take part in common prayers
[ Edited ]10-26-2011 08:54 AM - last edited on 10-26-2011 08:59 AM
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Organized religions which are percieved as faiths all have different doctrines and rituals therefore when all these faiths come together in one prayer they are not praying as one to the one living God.
As much as i dislike the pope i have to agree with him on this one.For example a buddhist does not percieve God as the catholic does,nor does judaism percieve God as islam does etc.
Therefore as much as this get together is percieved as unified it is not.In all reality there will never be unity among the organized religions of mankind because in reality they are organizations that have their own doctrines not written by God but by man himself.
It is for this reason alone that the multiple organized religions of this world will be in constant discord and always on a collision course.
The reasons they are called sects is because they are divisions,they are divided in their beliefs and their doctrines.So for once i must agree with the pope.Sect means divisions,and in all reality i do not believe that God wants us divided but one in our belief of him.Again the bible frowns on mankinds religions and it does not promote religion,it does promote God and only God.
Organized religions which are percieved as faiths all have different doctrines and rituals therefore when all these faiths come together in one prayer they are not praying as one to the one living God.
As much as i dislike the pope i have to agree with him on this one.For example a buddhist does not percieve God as the catholic does,nor does judaism percieve God as islam does etc.
Therefore as much as this get together is percieved as unified it is not.In all reality there will never be unity among the organized religions of mankind because in reality they are organizations that have their own doctrines not written by God but by man himself.
It is for this reason alone that the multiple organized religions of this world will be in constant discord and always on a collision course.
The reasons they are called sects is because they are divisions,they are divided in their beliefs and their doctrines.So for once i must agree with the pope.Sect means divisions,and in all reality i do not believe that God wants us divided but one in our belief of him.Again the bible frowns on mankinds religions and it does not promote religion,it does promote God and only God.
Re: why pope will not take part in common prayers
10-26-2011 09:01 AM
He's right. There is no such thing as a common prayer....but there can be common TIMES for prayer.
I don't think that prayer is so much the issue as tolerance for people of other faiths or lack thereof. Atheists keep trying to get religious people to not be religious, Islam wants to get rid of everyone who's not Muslim, Christians think they are right, Jews think they are the chosen people, Buddhists find solace in one manner, Hindus in another.
I firmly believe that we CAN think we are right in what we believe and still leave other people alone. One Jesus figure out in the desert is not demanding everyone turn to Christianity, nor does a call to prayer from a minaret mean I'll drop to my knees to worship Allah.
I have friends of other faiths. We all believe we are correct. But somehow we all get along...mostly because we respect the other person's "right to be wrong."
I don't think that prayer is so much the issue as tolerance for people of other faiths or lack thereof. Atheists keep trying to get religious people to not be religious, Islam wants to get rid of everyone who's not Muslim, Christians think they are right, Jews think they are the chosen people, Buddhists find solace in one manner, Hindus in another.
I firmly believe that we CAN think we are right in what we believe and still leave other people alone. One Jesus figure out in the desert is not demanding everyone turn to Christianity, nor does a call to prayer from a minaret mean I'll drop to my knees to worship Allah.
I have friends of other faiths. We all believe we are correct. But somehow we all get along...mostly because we respect the other person's "right to be wrong."
Re: why pope will not take part in common prayers
10-26-2011 10:36 AM
Its even more insane then that. The top three religions all pray to the same god, and believe most of the same gospel. The only difference is which profit is your fave, and kill each other over that.
Ron_C wrote:
Oh gawd, so many gods and so little time. Next we will probably hear somebody claim that their god can kick somebody else's god's backside. How would that work if gods can't die?
Re: why pope will not take part in common prayers
10-26-2011 05:05 PM
People speak of this God and that God and all the wrong elements of religion...what they forget is the common denominator...MAN. The path I have chosen is full of misguided religious leaders but I dont hold them up as a diety. The Pope is a MAN nothing more nor less. The pastor preist shiek etc are nothing but men, some with integrity and others without. My frustration is with people who put down faith, just because it is faith. While I dont agree with every faith I do respect people who are realize there is more that Man in this universe
Re: why pope will not take part in common prayers
10-26-2011 05:13 PM
Sorry but out of the three only one is killing people at the present time. But hey let's jump on the Pope.
NotimpressedbyU wrote:
Its even more insane then that. The top three religions all pray to the same god, and believe most of the same gospel. The only difference is which profit is your fave, and kill each other over that.
Ron_C wrote:
Oh gawd, so many gods and so little time. Next we will probably hear somebody claim that their god can kick somebody else's god's backside. How would that work if gods can't die?
Re: why pope will not take part in common prayers
[ Edited ]10-26-2011 06:19 PM - last edited on 10-26-2011 06:20 PM
With over 100 million (billion? can't remember) stars in this galaxy alone, it is almost a forgone conclusion that you are right. There probably is more than man.
JimJR wrote:
People speak of this God and that God and all the wrong elements of religion...what they forget is the common denominator...MAN. The path I have chosen is full of misguided religious leaders but I dont hold them up as a diety. The Pope is a MAN nothing more nor less. The pastor preist shiek etc are nothing but men, some with integrity and others without. My frustration is with people who put down faith, just because it is faith. While I dont agree with every faith I do respect people who are realize there is more that Man in this universe
It's not what you don't know that can hurt you, it's what you do know that just ain't so.
Re: why pope will not take part in common prayers
10-26-2011 06:20 PM
Well it is nice that he is reaching out to Atheists. I do not believe atheists want the religious to stop being religious. They want the religious to stop trying to impose religion on those who do not believe and to coexist. You know as far as atheists are concerned we only get one shot! No pearly gates, no virgens waiting for us or eternal reward or punishment. One chance to make this world a better place. To those who do not believe in god seeing the arguments between faiths as to which is the "true" faith or god is just silly and counter productive.
So with that said it is very nice to see the Pope doing some thing to bridge the gap between the faiths and those with out faith as well. It is a step towards peace.
So with that said it is very nice to see the Pope doing some thing to bridge the gap between the faiths and those with out faith as well. It is a step towards peace.
Re: why pope will not take part in common prayers
[ Edited ]10-26-2011 06:22 PM - last edited on 10-26-2011 06:26 PM
Key phrase. Also we, a "Christian" nation have killed more Muslims in the last decade then Osama's wettest dream of killing Christians.
217treat wrote:
Sorry but out of the three only one is killing people at the present time. But hey let's jump on the Pope.
NotimpressedbyU wrote:
Its even more insane then that. The top three religions all pray to the same god, and believe most of the same gospel. The only difference is which profit is your fave, and kill each other over that.
Ron_C wrote:
Oh gawd, so many gods and so little time. Next we will probably hear somebody claim that their god can kick somebody else's god's backside. How would that work if gods can't die?
It's not what you don't know that can hurt you, it's what you do know that just ain't so.
Re: why pope will not take part in common prayers
10-26-2011 06:23 PM
um, no
217treat wrote:
Sorry but out of the three only one is killing people at the present time. But hey let's jump on the Pope.
NotimpressedbyU wrote:
Its even more insane then that. The top three religions all pray to the same god, and believe most of the same gospel. The only difference is which profit is your fave, and kill each other over that.
Ron_C wrote:
Oh gawd, so many gods and so little time. Next we will probably hear somebody claim that their god can kick somebody else's god's backside. How would that work if gods can't die?
i bet you that there is more genocide in the past 100 years by "christians" than in the name of any other faith
Re: why pope will not take part in common prayers
10-26-2011 06:51 PM
dadsgolfing wrote:
um, no
Sorry but out of the three only one is killing people at the present time. But hey let's jump on the Pope.
i bet you that there is more genocide in the past 100 years by "christians" than in the name of any other faith
Re: why pope will not take part in common prayers
[ Edited ]10-26-2011 07:09 PM - last edited on 10-26-2011 07:11 PM
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Re: why pope will not take part in common prayers
10-26-2011 07:44 PM
And could that be because we are at war? And Muslims themselves have killed more Muslims.
chumaroot wrote:
Key phrase. Also we, a "Christian" nation have killed more Muslims in the last decade then Osama's wettest dream of killing Christians.
217treat wrote:
Sorry but out of the three only one is killing people at the present time. But hey let's jump on the Pope.
NotimpressedbyU wrote:
Its even more insane then that. The top three religions all pray to the same god, and believe most of the same gospel. The only difference is which profit is your fave, and kill each other over that.
Ron_C wrote:
Oh gawd, so many gods and so little time. Next we will probably hear somebody claim that their god can kick somebody else's god's backside. How would that work if gods can't die?
Re: why pope will not take part in common prayers
[ Edited ]10-26-2011 07:46 PM - last edited on 10-26-2011 07:47 PM
How much would you like to bet, and how are you going to pay me? That is not even close, and you know it. Why would you even say that? Lets start with Armenia, and do not tell me the Christian church approved of Hitler.
dadsgolfing wrote:
um, no
217treat wrote:
Sorry but out of the three only one is killing people at the present time. But hey let's jump on the Pope.
NotimpressedbyU wrote:
Its even more insane then that. The top three religions all pray to the same god, and believe most of the same gospel. The only difference is which profit is your fave, and kill each other over that.
Ron_C wrote:
Oh gawd, so many gods and so little time. Next we will probably hear somebody claim that their god can kick somebody else's god's backside. How would that work if gods can't die?
i bet you that there is more genocide in the past 100 years by "christians" than in the name of any other faith
Re: why pope will not take part in common prayers
[ Edited ]10-26-2011 08:26 PM - last edited on 10-26-2011 08:27 PM
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Discussions about Religion are not allowed in the Forum Guidelines.
Since Prayer is directly tied to religion and is purely a religious issue, I am notifying the Comcast moderators to lock the Thread.
Sometimes I feel the Forum moderators are asleep at the wheel, especially because this thread is already two pages long.
So sorry.
it's odd i can rag on muslims or jewish,or those westwood baptists all day ,soon as the word catholic comes up ,boom thread over . tolerence ? maybe just maybe the others don't wanna pray with him ! gd forbid huh?
Re: why pope will not take part in common prayers
[ Edited ]10-26-2011 08:29 PM - last edited on 10-26-2011 08:33 PM
What forum you been on? Christianity is blamed for everything here.
shadowstuff wrote:
Gutsky wrote:
As to posts harassing Catholics, please use your abuse button to make us aware of the situation. Controversial subjects are not allowed and harassing someone because of their beliefs is also not allowed.
Discussions about Religion are not allowed in the Forum Guidelines.
Since Prayer is directly tied to religion and is purely a religious issue, I am notifying the Comcast moderators to lock the Thread.
Sometimes I feel the Forum moderators are asleep at the wheel, especially because this thread is already two pages long.
So sorry.
it's odd i can rag on muslims or jewish,or those westwood baptists all day ,soon as the word catholic comes up ,boom thread over . tolerence ? maybe just maybe the others don't wanna pray with him ! gd forbid huh?
Re: why pope will not take part in common prayers
10-26-2011 09:12 PM
more by atheists i would think. stalin, mao, pol pot, etc.
dadsgolfing wrote:
um, no
217treat wrote:
Sorry but out of the three only one is killing people at the present time. But hey let's jump on the Pope.
NotimpressedbyU wrote:
Its even more insane then that. The top three religions all pray to the same god, and believe most of the same gospel. The only difference is which profit is your fave, and kill each other over that.
Ron_C wrote:
Oh gawd, so many gods and so little time. Next we will probably hear somebody claim that their god can kick somebody else's god's backside. How would that work if gods can't die?
i bet you that there is more genocide in the past 100 years by "christians" than in the name of any other faith
Re: why pope will not take part in common prayers
10-26-2011 09:39 PM
217treat wrote:
What forum you been on? Christianity is blamed for everything here.
shadowstuff wrote:
Gutsky wrote:
As to posts harassing Catholics, please use your abuse button to make us aware of the situation. Controversial subjects are not allowed and harassing someone because of their beliefs is also not allowed.
Discussions about Religion are not allowed in the Forum Guidelines.
Since Prayer is directly tied to religion and is purely a religious issue, I am notifying the Comcast moderators to lock the Thread.
Sometimes I feel the Forum moderators are asleep at the wheel, especially because this thread is already two pages long.
So sorry.
it's odd i can rag on muslims or jewish,or those westwood baptists all day ,soon as the word catholic comes up ,boom thread over . tolerence ? maybe just maybe the others don't wanna pray with him ! gd forbid huh?
so only catholics are christian? i have participated in several threads about the abuse scandal without fail they get shut down . the pope is a man ,nothing more nothing less .an old man at that ,why invite others to join in prayer then exclude himself??? is he too good to hang with the others ?
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