Re: Teaching Gay History in CA
12-13-2011 12:10 PM
Are there any Muslems in CA? And do any attend public schools? And are there anyMuslem schools in CA? Do private schools have to adopt this program?
So many questions, so little time.
So many questions, so little time.
Re: Teaching Gay History in CA
12-13-2011 12:43 PM
ProfessorWhitey wrote:
I've got no problems with any state teaching history that includes someone that was gay. As long as their contributions to history warrant inclusion to the curriculum.
Leonard Bernstein and Van Cliburn would be included. Or should we ignore their contribution to American music?
We shouldn't be searching for historical accounts by a gay person just so they can be included, but you know that's exactly what this law means. And by doing that the gay movement is once again saying "We want to be treated equally, except on this issue. On this issue we want to be treated us differently."
Do we intentionally seek out Chinese or Japanese historical figures just to pander to those cultures? Do we do the same for every race and religion? If not then by doing this for the gay movement we are discriminating against everyone in the name of "fairness".
What ever happened to getting in based on merit? Guess that doesn't count in a "progressive" society.
Think globally, act locally
Re: Teaching Gay History in CA
[ Edited ]12-13-2011 03:01 PM - last edited on 12-13-2011 03:06 PM
Leonard Bernstein and Van Cliburn would be included. Or should we ignore their contribution to American music?
Lenny was bisexual and was married to a woman and had a family.
1951–1959
After much personal struggle and a turbulent on-off engagement, he married Chilean actress Felicia Cohn Montealegre on September 10, 1951. One suggestion is that he chose to marry partly to dispel rumors about his private life to help secure a major conducting appointment, following advice from his mentor Dimitri Mitropoulos about the conservative nature of orchestra boards.[18] Bernstein's sexuality has been a matter of speculation and debate. Arthur Laurents (Bernstein's collaborator in West Side Story) said that Bernstein was "a gay man who got married. He wasn't conflicted about it at all. He was just gay."[19] Shirley Rhoades Perle, another friend of Bernstein's, said that she thought "he required men sexually and women emotionally."[20] But the early years of his marriage seem to have been happy, and no one has suggested they didn't love one another. They had three children, Jamie, Alexander, and later Nina.[21] There are reports though that Bernstein did sometimes have brief extramarital liaisons with young men, which several family friends have said his wife knew about.[20]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_Bernstein#Early_life
Lenny was bisexual and was married to a woman and had a family.
1951–1959
After much personal struggle and a turbulent on-off engagement, he married Chilean actress Felicia Cohn Montealegre on September 10, 1951. One suggestion is that he chose to marry partly to dispel rumors about his private life to help secure a major conducting appointment, following advice from his mentor Dimitri Mitropoulos about the conservative nature of orchestra boards.[18] Bernstein's sexuality has been a matter of speculation and debate. Arthur Laurents (Bernstein's collaborator in West Side Story) said that Bernstein was "a gay man who got married. He wasn't conflicted about it at all. He was just gay."[19] Shirley Rhoades Perle, another friend of Bernstein's, said that she thought "he required men sexually and women emotionally."[20] But the early years of his marriage seem to have been happy, and no one has suggested they didn't love one another. They had three children, Jamie, Alexander, and later Nina.[21] There are reports though that Bernstein did sometimes have brief extramarital liaisons with young men, which several family friends have said his wife knew about.[20]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_Bernstein#Early_life
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Re: Teaching Gay History in CA
12-14-2011 07:50 AM
Let's teach Muslim and Jewish history too...the numbers are fascinating.
Re: Teaching Gay History in CA
12-14-2011 12:48 PM
Wow I'm a big ole **bleep** and hatr his music always have always will so underthewire it comes to taste level ? You Failed in my big **bleep**, **bleep** ,Gay book.
underthewire wrote:
I like Elton John's music..................not because he's gay. But i do not like his gayness. is that possible?
Not to gays i guess.
Re: Teaching Gay History in CA
12-14-2011 03:12 PM
Teaching tolerance is one thing. Teaching people to accept perversion is another. Even children understand our bodies are made male for female. By your reasoning we should be teaching about those that practice beastiality, adultry, prostitution, and other sexual deviations as though they are okay. This does not belong in schools. I find that those on the far left really don't believe in freedom, seeing how they always try to push their beliefs on everyone else. while trying to accuse the far right of trying to to push their beliefs on society the far left does exactley the same thing.
walk1191 wrote:
Brainwashing? Boosting? What's wrong with learning facts. Learning about gay history won't make students gay. Students learn intolerant behavior from their parents. Maybe if they see gays and lesbians in a different light, students will be more welcoming of them. And what's wrong with students getting along with one another and accepting one another? If your object on religious grounds, then don't teach it in your place of worship.
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