24- year- old Iraq War Veteran SCOTT OLSEN
What was his crime?
Speaking the truth?
Using his right to protest the corruption
of the 1% in this country?
Has our country been so busy "exporting freedom"
that we have none left here?
"Clashed With Police"
What clash?
I've not seen any "clash" in all the videos I've watched.
Aren't the main media outlets owned by the !%?
Why is it our government praised the people
in the Middle Eastern nations
who rose up against tyranny and injustice
and condemned their governments attempts
to express their rights to be heard?
Should there not be the same praise
for Americans that (allegedly)
have the right to express their feelings?
I am grateful for SCOTT OLSEN,
and all the brave souls,
who are showing their patriotism
by speaking out in public places against the 1%
in an effort to keep democracy for the 99%
Yeah! Just what I was going to say.
OldeSpy wrote:
When jobs are exported for profit, it creates a glut of workers over here. As the supply of labor went up, the wages went down--hence the stagnant wages since the early 80s. When the financial district seized upon the opportunity to lend us money... Especially with interest rates that flapped in the wind... They were collaborating with the government and businesses so they could make money as we bought things from businesses (making them money) to buy the things we couldn't afford to buy on the wages our industries were willing to pay us. All of that came about via the collaborative efforts of our industries and government. We saw it in a procession of pot-shots at labor, unions, etc. We saw it in the massive exportation of jobs. We've seen it as American made products disappeared from our shelves. We've seen small businesses become less and less of the economic landscape of America. Where we had business owners before, we now have greeters at WalMart. The very fabric (the American Dream) of our middle class has been impugned. We've seen how the falling import tariffs have led to a precipitous decline in wages at home... Curtailing our purchasing power. We've seen artificial economic stimulants and the creation of a credit economy. Time and time again, the hyperbole was to ramp up national pride in individuals such as yourself , who set their jaws and think they've done their part to be good Americans by taking a smaller and smaller paycheck on the chin without complaint. In truth, they played you to get you to lay down. The reason your check is so small isn't because you weren't willing to work hard. It is small because we've all paid the price... Like a hidden tax, for the exorbitant profits that are being made on Wall Street and by Multinational importers. Being proud at how well you weathered being taken to the cleaners isn't helping you or your progeny.
vfmin08 wrote:
I feel sorry for the Iraq vet, but these people DON'T represent me and my feelings. I have NO desire to take anything from others that I didn't earn or deserve. I make my tiny little paycheck, and I'm just happy to be able to pay my bills. I don't begrudge anyone because of what they have acquired or because they are successful. All I want is jobs for Americans. That is all. I don't want to take anything from anyone else, and I blame my government for allowing themselves to be sold out.
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These protestors need to protest WITHIN the law. If the police tell them to do something, they HAVE to do it; just like the rest of us. Sad that someone ended up getting hurt, but unfortunately that is what sometimes happens when your listening skills are subpar.
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I mean, where is the common sense. If these "Wall Street bankers" are such bad and evil people, why would these protestors think for one minute that they are going to listen? It just doesn't make any sense! Go protest in front of the White House! THEY have the power to make the changes that you seek!
Go back to basics. Look at the game of Monopoly. Everyone has played it. Everyone knows that the object of the game is to be the last man standing. The game produces losers. Everyone loses. In the end, the guy who got it all also loses inasmuch as he succeeds at breaking the economy. When nobody has any money, there is no one to buy your products or rent your facilities. You've got nothing.
I'm old enough to remember when a kid could graduate from high school, trot down to the local Montgomery Wards and buy a tape measure & hammer, and apprentice into a wage sufficient enough to buy his own home, get married, raise a family, drive a car that was less than 10 years old, and take two weeks vacation a year without going into debt. That was the bar. It was the standard. If you wanted a job, you could have one. Wages = Demand. We were a self-fueling economy. It was that kind of grass roots prosperity that enabled us to build the best infrastructure in the world, education for all, and, and, and... It worked.
The global economy is nice... But only if it doesn't put us all out of work or plunge us into a third word existence. You're hanging on by luck and good graces. Millions of people weren't so lucky. They didn't quit and lay down. They were pushed. The very same government that collaborated with deep pockets to grow that disparity of incomes is now sitting on their laurels carping about partisan planks rather than fixing the problems they themselves helped to create.
I'm not impressed by their lack of action. I am more impressed with the 99ers who are standing up for them and for you and so many other people who haven't figured it out yet. A country is only as strong as it's middle class. That was what the founders of this country originally intended. It was that stroke of genius that gave everyone a little skin in the game. We all pulled together to build this country... Now a limited few want to siphon off the profits and momentum and stick the rest of us with the bill.
I'm just sayin...
I hadn't seen this photo before. His pupils are blown. There is a reason why he is in critical condition. Look at his tee shirt. The cop that hit him with the flash-bang had to know that he was shooting someone who had served and who had earned the right to be heard. When this hits the net in the middle-east, it will be the greatest demoralizing thing that could happen to our troups. This is what they're fighting for... To come back to a country that may be different... Yet it is as oppressive in different ways as the countries they've been fighting in.
Isn't it a pity.
Hippie-style? I ws thinking more along the lines of beat-nicks. 
Razor77 wrote:
When you hang out with the unruly mob bad things may happen.
Also, the article says "allegedly" hit by a police canister.
Who knows, he may have been mugged by the large criminal element that is surely at these hippie-style camp outs.
I have not heard of such problems as shooting tear gas at tea partiers or anything like what is going on now. I do recall reports that the sites the tea partiers went to were very clean after the events were over (when they went home & went back to work).
I don't like what is happening to these protestors though & certainly not what happened to this young man.
NotimpressedbyU wrote:
So, we should take a vote, and if it is determined we do not like what the protestors are saying we can kill them (they darn near did kill the kid) There would be alot fewer tea partiers around if that were the case.
deltoro wrote:
well you do reap what you sow. if he hadnt been protesting for facsist ideals he wouldnt be in this situation. next time duck!!!
Detailed reports are now coming out that this fellow was with a veteran's GROUP joining in the protest.
Jalus wrote:
24- year- old Iraq War Veteran SCOTT OLSEN
What was his crime?
Speaking the truth?
Using his right to protest the corruption
of the 1% in this country?
Has our country been so busy "exporting freedom"
that we have none left here?
"Clashed With Police"
What clash?
I've not seen any "clash" in all the videos I've watched.
Aren't the main media outlets owned by the !%?
Why is it our government praised the people
in the Middle Eastern nations
who rose up against tyranny and injustice
and condemned their governments attempts
to express their rights to be heard?
Should there not be the same praise
for Americans that (allegedly)
have the right to express their feelings?
I am grateful for SCOTT OLSEN,
and all the brave souls,
who are showing their patriotism
by speaking out in public places against the 1%
in an effort to keep democracy for the 99%
In the first place it was a rubber bullet. In the second place you point is bunk. There is a thing is the law called the doctrine of reasonable force. Ask LEO's about it. The protesters were peaceful, there was no evidence of weapons and at best they were guilty of trespassing and or illegal camping.
217treat wrote:
Those people were warned. It is their fault.
Noein wrote:
One of the casualties of the corporate gestapo crackdown in Oakland.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/oct/26/occupy-oakland-veteran-critical-condition
- An Iraq war veteran has a fractured skull and brain swelling after allegedly being hit by a police projectile.
- Olsen, 24, suffered the head injury during protests in Oakland on Tuesday evening. More than 15 people were arrested after a crowd gathered to demonstrate against the police operation to clear two Occupy Oakland camps in the early hours of Tuesday morning.
- "It's terrible to go over to Iraq twice and come back injured, and then get injured by the police that are supposed to be protecting us," he said.
The purpose of the police in corrupt fascist states is to oppress, not protect.
Rubber bullets and tear gas and some of the use of force used which can be seen in videos is not reasonable or needed. It is however effective if your goal is intimidate people to not exercise their Constitutionally guaranteed rights.
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