Penn State covered up sex abuse

shadowstuff · 03-02-2008

lock them all up

leecomb · 09-04-2009

After reading this, I find it difficult to doubt the allegations made by that assistant. Your dealing with some powerful people in that athletic dept. and I can't see him reporting something like that knowing what the results would be if he was lying. It's a crying shame things like this goes on and on and on.....

Glock-n-Toad · 06-30-2011

Penn State alums will no longer feel Penn State Proud after reading the 23 page indictment. The JANITORS knew what was happening and feared for their jobs (making maybe 15.00/hr?) while these creeps swept the on-going abuse under the rug.

Penn State prez offers unconditional support to AD | CollegeFootballTalk

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/05/penn-state-ad-charged-with-perjury-failure-to-report-in-sandusky-sex-case/related/HERE

digiman · 08-06-2008

My standard answer is "innocent until proven guilty". There seems to be multiple, multiple victims though coming forward, and a janitor who was a witness to an incident with a 13 year old boy.

The University is in huge trouble if they knew anything about this and did not report it. This is a disgusting thing. One's peccadillo's can be excused if it is between consenting adults, but to force sex acts on young boys is about as low as you can go.

weallost · 12-28-2009

There's nothing like the smell of Big Education

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madisonmoments · 07-21-2007

weallost wrote:
There's nothing like the smell of Big Education

What in the name of Jesu are you talking about? What is meant by 'Big Education'? This seems to be a case where the college authorities, once becoming aware of these allegations, failed to report them to law enforcement. If we were to follow your analogy, then the other stench we are picking up in this regard is the one coming from the 'Big Catholic Church' which also seemed to have lost the phone number of the local police.

Dudleydooright · 08-05-2007

What alibi could this pervert possibly have? I was
only making wide receivers out of tight ends?
Book'em Dano.

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shadowstuff · 03-02-2008

madisonmoments wrote:

weallost wrote:
There's nothing like the smell of Big Education

What in the name of Jesu are you talking about? What is meant by 'Big Education'? This seems to be a case where the college authorities, once becoming aware of these allegations, failed to report them to law enforcement. If we were to follow your analogy, then the other stench we are picking up in this regard is the one coming from the 'Big Catholic Church' which also seemed to have lost the phone number of the local police.

not a bit different than the priest abuse ,protect the institution screw the victim

shadowstuff · 03-02-2008

what makes almost as sick as reading what happened to these boys is how the article goes on and on about the freaking football program .which has nothing and everything to do with the case .what the hell does how great the program was have to do with people in positions of power doing nothing to stop this sick pig ?everyone that knew is guilty including the piece of crap coach ,but as usual what he did or didn't do is glossed over .no charges against him ? but he knew ? what are the others all except the pervert being charged with ? because they knew and did nothing? coach paterno knew .no charges ? the whole thing makes me wanna puke

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If anyone is still defending any of the human excrement of an excuse for "people" involved in this criminal destruction of children....
PENN State included....ANYONE WITH KNOWLEDGE of this deserves jail at a minimum. I'd prefer to see all of them 6ft under.

READ THE FACTS FOR YOURSELVES:

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2011/11/09/bernstein-you-must-read-the-grand-jury-report/

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2011/11/07/sandusky-grand-jury-report/

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11-12-2011 01:07 PM

If anyone is still defending any of the human excrement of an excuse for "people" involved in this criminal destruction of children....
PENN State included....ANYONE WITH KNOWLEDGE of this deserves jail at a minimum. I'd prefer to see all of them 6ft under.

READ THE FACTS FOR YOURSELVES:

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2011/11/09/bernstein-you-must-read-the-grand-jury-report/

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2011/11/07/sandusky-grand-jury-report/

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I feel Paterno should face some level of charges,
he reported it sometime ago(2002?) with no
follow up and, the situation festered for quite awhile.
P S U

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Joe Paterno hired a high-powered Washington lawyer; J. Sedgwick “Wick” Sollers, who has represented former president George H.W. Bush in the past.

Legal experts are wondering if he has, finally. begun to fear federal action in the case, as well as, Pennsylvania’s ongoing criminal investigation.

Another important question that deserves our attention is: Why are we "allowing" Penn State to investigate themselves.

The Board of Trustees has a vested interest in mitigating the damage control of the University's reputation, as wellas, the reputation of Joe Paterno and the football program in Happy Valley. It is not in their best interest to allow the full story to come out and negatively impact donations from alumni and patrons of the University.

Plus, we all have seen the "stellar" job they've done thus far.
( oopsy - was that too snarky )

The U.S. Department of Education and the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania needs to step up and investigate and enforce the law. As for the Board of Directors role, there is an ongoing criminal investigation, all they need to do is to allow the truth to be discovered if they truly meant what they said:

"We are 'Outraged' Over the Sex Abuse of Children Scandal."

really... Really... REALLY!

Prove it.

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In the meantime we will stand beside the children while the world continues to watch. Rest assured, we will not abandon them until justice is served.

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what about paterno?
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define "at risk" dadsgolfing......at risk for this treatment? at risk for abuse? foster children need and deserve the same respect and love as any other kids. take the "AT RISK" label and stick it where the sun don't shine.

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peewee wrote:
define "at risk" dadsgolfing......at risk for this treatment? at risk for abuse? foster children need and deserve the same respect and love as any other kids. take the "AT RISK" label and stick it where the sun don't shine.

i don't think it's just a label ,it's reality. kids from broken homes .kids being abused at home and kids in foster ,are much more at risk than kids from a stable home .sure it happens in the best homes to .being a kid of a single parent or in foster makes them a target for molesters.previous abuse makes them a target seems like predators can tell if a kids spirit has already been broken . i wish you woulda been around to explain that to most of the foster placements i had

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From ComCast home page, a time line
of events that led up to Paterno.

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peewee wrote:
define "at risk" dadsgolfing......at risk for this treatment? at risk for abuse? foster children need and deserve the same respect and love as any other kids. take the "AT RISK" label and stick it where the sun don't shine.

google it yourself

then after you understand what the term means, and why those little boys were so incredibly vulnerable to this, and so completely unprotected, and why this is such an incredibly vile act, you can come back and have an intelligent discussion with the adults on the forum.

and actually, foster children and "at risk" children deserve MORE protection and care from animals like this, because they are the most susceptible to it.

btw... there is a really good pdf writeup on the topic on the web. you know what you can do with the pdf.

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Great article & guidelines for the Penn Footard staff for future reference.....

NOVEMBER 10, 2011 BY JOHN SCALZI 494 COMMENTS

These things should be simple:
1. When, as an adult, you come come across another adult raping a small child, you shoulda) do everything in your power to rescue that child from the rapist, b) call the police the moment it is practicable.
2. If your adult son calls you to tell you that he just saw another adult raping a small child, but then left that small child with the rapist, and then asks you what he should do, you should a)tell him to get off the phone with you and call the police immediately, b) call the police yourself and make a report, c) at the appropriate time in the future ask your adult son why the **bleep** he did not try to save that kid.
3. If your underling comes to you to report that he saw another man, also your underling, raping a small child, but then left that small child with the rapist, you should a) call the police immediately, b) alert your own superiors, c) immediately suspend the alleged rapist underling from his job responsibilities pending a full investigation, d) at the appropriate time in the future ask that first underling why the **bleep** he did not try to save that kid.
4. When, as the officials of an organization, you are approached by an underling who tells you that one of his people saw another of his people raping a small child at the organization, in organization property, you should a) call the police immediately, b)immediately suspend the alleged rapist from his job responsibilities if the immediate supervisor has not already done so, c) when called to a grand jury to testify on the matter, avoid perjuring yourself. At no time should you decide that the best way to handle the situation is to simply tell the alleged rapist not to bring small children onto organization property anymore.
You know, there’s a part of me who looks at the actions of each of non-raping grown men inthe “Pennsylvania State University small-child-allegedly-being-raped-by-a-grown-man-who-is-part-of-... and can understand why those men could rationalize a) not immediately acting in the interests of a small child being raped, b) not immediately going to the police, c) doing only the minimum legal requirements in the situation, d) acting to keep from exposing their organization to a scandal. But here’s the thing: that part of me? The part that understands these actions? That part of me is a **bleep**ing coward. And so by their actions — and by their inactions — were these men.
At least one sports columnist has made the point that Joe Paterno, the 40+ year coach of Penn State, who was fired last night (along with the university’s president) by the university’s board of trustees, should be remembered for all the good things he has stood for, and for his generosity and principles, even as this scandal, which brought his downfall, is now inevitably part of his legacy as well. And, well. I suspect that in time, even this horrible event will fade, and Paterno’s legacy, to football and to Penn State, will rise above the tarnishment, especially because it can and will be argued that Paterno did all that was legally required of him, expressed regret and horror, and was not the man who was, after all, performing the acts.
Here’s what I think about that, right now. I’m a science fiction writer, and one of the great stories of science fiction is “The Ones Who Walk Away From Omelas,” which was written by Ursula K. LeGuin. The story posits a fantastic utopian city, where everything is beautiful, with one catch: In order for all this comfort and beauty to exist, one child must be kept in filth and misery. Every citizen of Omelas, when they come of age, is told about that one blameless child being put through hell. And they have a choice: Accept that is the price for their perfect lives in Omelas, or walk away from that paradise, into uncertainty and possibly chaos.
At Pennsylvania State University, a grown man found a blameless child being put through hell. Other grown men learned of it. Each of them had to make their choice, and decide, fundamentally, whether the continuation of their utopia — or at very least the illusion of their utopia — was worth the pain and suffering of that one child. Through their actions, and their inactions, we know the choice they made.

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