Re: COPS INVESTIGATE JUDGE FOR SHOCKING VIDEO
[ New ]11-07-2011 12:24 PM - last edited on 11-07-2011 12:27 PM
First off.. it was not a 7 minute beating - some are right! However, it happened over a 7 minute period! That is rediculous, imo!
I am a firm believer in spanking! Spanking for huge offenses such as danger zones! However, this was a little more than just a spanking!
Here is my questions...
#1 - If the dad wanted her to have her punishment, why wasn't the one spanking his wife did on her butt good enough? He even went back in and said "I didn't get my licks in", even though he started it! It wasn't about the punishment, it was about him getting a good beat down on her - because if that was just about her having been punished... the mom's one belt across her butt would have been good enough!
#2 - For those who say she did this because she is spoiled and afraid of him taking away her toys... then don't you think "beating" your child with a belt didn't turn her into a wonderful adult? Seems to me, if she is a spoiled adult.. then spanking her and such didn't seem to work on her as a child!
Can't have it both ways! They "Spanked" her to make her a more predominant and worthy adult.... seems to have made her a bitter and angry adult! Hmmm... Does beating really work?
I am a firm believer in spanking! Spanking for huge offenses such as danger zones! However, this was a little more than just a spanking!
Here is my questions...
#1 - If the dad wanted her to have her punishment, why wasn't the one spanking his wife did on her butt good enough? He even went back in and said "I didn't get my licks in", even though he started it! It wasn't about the punishment, it was about him getting a good beat down on her - because if that was just about her having been punished... the mom's one belt across her butt would have been good enough!
#2 - For those who say she did this because she is spoiled and afraid of him taking away her toys... then don't you think "beating" your child with a belt didn't turn her into a wonderful adult? Seems to me, if she is a spoiled adult.. then spanking her and such didn't seem to work on her as a child!
Can't have it both ways! They "Spanked" her to make her a more predominant and worthy adult.... seems to have made her a bitter and angry adult! Hmmm... Does beating really work?
"Therefore you have no excuse, everyone of you who passes judgment, for in that which you judge another, you condemn yourself; for you who judge practice the same things. " - Romans 2:1
Re: COPS INVESTIGATE JUDGE FOR SHOCKING VIDEO
[ New ]11-07-2011 01:45 PM
Regardless of Hillary Adams motives or her statements, there is no question that the video clearly shows a man completely out of control, savagely beating his own 16-year-old daughter with a belt. For that there is no defense.
That he still maintains partial custody of his younger daughter is truly unbelievable, and speaks speaks volumes of the ineptitude of State-sanctioned "Child Protective Services" ~ not only in Texas, but in our nation as a whole.
That he is still part of the judicial system is an outrage. WILLIAM ADAMS should promptly be removed from the bench. This man, whose personal behavior is abhorrent, must never again be in a position to sit in judgment of another person again.
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Re: COPS INVESTIGATE JUDGE FOR SHOCKING VIDEO
[ New ]11-07-2011 03:28 PM
I can't say I disagree with you, but what about the mother???????
Jalus wrote:
Regardless of Hillary Adams motives or her statements, there is no question that the video clearly shows a man completely out of control, savagely beating his own 16-year-old daughter with a belt. For that there is no defense.
That he still maintains partial custody of his younger daughter is truly unbelievable, and speaks speaks volumes of the ineptitude of State-sanctioned "Child Protective Services" ~ not only in Texas, but in our nation as a whole.
That he is still part of the judicial system is an outrage. WILLIAM ADAMS should promptly be removed from the bench. This man, whose personal behavior is abhorrent, must never again be in a position to sit in judgment of another person again.
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Re: COPS INVESTIGATE JUDGE FOR SHOCKING VIDEO
[ New ]11-07-2011 04:38 PM
NoLifeAtAll wrote:
First off.. it was not a 7 minute beating - some are right! However, it happened over a 7 minute period! That is rediculous, imo!
I am a firm believer in spanking! Spanking for huge offenses such as danger zones! However, this was a little more than just a spanking!
Here is my questions...
#1 - If the dad wanted her to have her punishment, why wasn't the one spanking his wife did on her butt good enough? He even went back in and said "I didn't get my licks in", even though he started it! It wasn't about the punishment, it was about him getting a good beat down on her - because if that was just about her having been punished... the mom's one belt across her butt would have been good enough! Gonna have to disagree. The wife is just as guilty as the father, period. She stood by and watched her husband beat her daughter and joined in herself.
#2 - For those who say she did this because she is spoiled and afraid of him taking away her toys... then don't you think "beating" your child with a belt didn't turn her into a wonderful adult? Seems to me, if she is a spoiled adult.. then spanking her and such didn't seem to work on her as a child! It's possible, but then again, her parents (or dad) may have spoiled her thereby making her selfish, who knows really (not any of us)?
Can't have it both ways! They "Spanked" her to make her a more predominant and worthy adult.... seems to have made her a bitter and angry adult! Hmmm... Does beating really work? The problem with this statement is that you're basing it off of one video clip. Outside of that family, we have no clue how this 23-year-old woman's parents "disciplined" her while she was growing up. Was the incident on the video tape a common occurrence or an isolated incident by two parents that lost control?
Re: COPS INVESTIGATE JUDGE FOR SHOCKING VIDEO
[ New ]11-07-2011 04:52 PM - last edited on 11-07-2011 05:07 PM
Hillary Adams needs to be in separate counseling and therapy and not in Family Counseling with either parent. All three need separate counseling and therapy for different reasons.My concern is Hillary now has a very warped sense of what is a proper parent child relationship. She needs intense therapy to get in touch with the deep-seated buried anger towards both parents betrayal of the innocent trust of a child.
A good therapist would recommend she not have any contact with either parent during the time they in treatment (IF they agree to go.)
Until such time her relationship with both parents remains emotionally unhealthy and dysfunctional, to say the least.
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daweebb wrote:
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I can't say I disagree with you, but what about the mother???????
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Jalus wrote:
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Regardless of Hillary Adams motives or her statements, there is no question that the video clearly shows a man completely out of control, savagely beating his own 16-year-old daughter with a belt. For that there is no defense.
That he still maintains partial custody of his younger daughter is truly unbelievable, and speaks speaks volumes of the ineptitude of State-sanctioned "Child Protective Services" ~ not only in Texas, but in our nation as a whole.
That he is still part of the judicial system is an outrage. WILLIAM ADAMS should promptly be removed from the bench. This man, whose personal behavior is abhorrent, must never again be in a position to sit in judgment of another person again.
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Re: COPS INVESTIGATE JUDGE FOR SHOCKING VIDEO
[ New ]11-07-2011 06:32 PM
daweebb wrote:
NoLifeAtAll wrote:
First off.. it was not a 7 minute beating - some are right! However, it happened over a 7 minute period! That is rediculous, imo!
I am a firm believer in spanking! Spanking for huge offenses such as danger zones! However, this was a little more than just a spanking!
Here is my questions...
#1 - If the dad wanted her to have her punishment, why wasn't the one spanking his wife did on her butt good enough? He even went back in and said "I didn't get my licks in", even though he started it! It wasn't about the punishment, it was about him getting a good beat down on her - because if that was just about her having been punished... the mom's one belt across her butt would have been good enough! Gonna have to disagree. The wife is just as guilty as the father, period. She stood by and watched her husband beat her daughter and joined in herself. I never said the wife should not be held accountable as I believe she should for sure... however, what I am saying is that if it was not a beating, the wife spanking her the one time should have been good enough as a form of punishment... but the dad wanted more than just a spanking!
#2 - For those who say she did this because she is spoiled and afraid of him taking away her toys... then don't you think "beating" your child with a belt didn't turn her into a wonderful adult? Seems to me, if she is a spoiled adult.. then spanking her and such didn't seem to work on her as a child! It's possible, but then again, her parents (or dad) may have spoiled her thereby making her selfish, who knows really (not any of us)? You are right.. I don't know if the girl is spoiled or not.. but it still goes to show that whatever form of punishment they were dealing this child didn't work if she really is using this tape as a type of bribery toward her father!
Can't have it both ways! They "Spanked" her to make her a more predominant and worthy adult.... seems to have made her a bitter and angry adult! Hmmm... Does beating really work? The problem with this statement is that you're basing it off of one video clip. Outside of that family, we have no clue how this 23-year-old woman's parents "disciplined" her while she was growing up. Was the incident on the video tape a common occurrence or an isolated incident by two parents that lost control? To me it doesn't matter! One time or 10 times.. They shouldn't have done it! I agree that spanking needs to happen but that was more than just a simple spanking!
"Therefore you have no excuse, everyone of you who passes judgment, for in that which you judge another, you condemn yourself; for you who judge practice the same things. " - Romans 2:1
Re: COPS INVESTIGATE JUDGE FOR SHOCKING VIDEO
[ New ]11-07-2011 07:38 PM
NoLifeAtAll wrote:
daweebb wrote:
NoLifeAtAll wrote:
First off.. it was not a 7 minute beating - some are right! However, it happened over a 7 minute period! That is rediculous, imo!
I am a firm believer in spanking! Spanking for huge offenses such as danger zones! However, this was a little more than just a spanking!
Here is my questions...
#1 - If the dad wanted her to have her punishment, why wasn't the one spanking his wife did on her butt good enough? He even went back in and said "I didn't get my licks in", even though he started it! It wasn't about the punishment, it was about him getting a good beat down on her - because if that was just about her having been punished... the mom's one belt across her butt would have been good enough! Gonna have to disagree. The wife is just as guilty as the father, period. She stood by and watched her husband beat her daughter and joined in herself. I never said the wife should not be held accountable as I believe she should for sure... however, what I am saying is that if it was not a beating, the wife spanking her the one time should have been good enough as a form of punishment... but the dad wanted more than just a spanking! I agree that both parties should be held accountable, but both parents are equally at fault.
#2 - For those who say she did this because she is spoiled and afraid of him taking away her toys... then don't you think "beating" your child with a belt didn't turn her into a wonderful adult? Seems to me, if she is a spoiled adult.. then spanking her and such didn't seem to work on her as a child! It's possible, but then again, her parents (or dad) may have spoiled her thereby making her selfish, who knows really (not any of us)? You are right.. I don't know if the girl is spoiled or not.. but it still goes to show that whatever form of punishment they were dealing this child didn't work if she really is using this tape as a type of bribery toward her father! It could be how the parents handled their daughter growing up or it could be something else. The daughter is 23 now.
Can't have it both ways! They "Spanked" her to make her a more predominant and worthy adult.... seems to have made her a bitter and angry adult! Hmmm... Does beating really work? The problem with this statement is that you're basing it off of one video clip. Outside of that family, we have no clue how this 23-year-old woman's parents "disciplined" her while she was growing up. Was the incident on the video tape a common occurrence or an isolated incident by two parents that lost control? To me it doesn't matter! One time or 10 times.. They shouldn't have done it! I agree that spanking needs to happen but that was more than just a simple spanking! Actually it does matter. Especially for a counselor who is trying to understand the root causes of this family's disfunction. I would have to disagree about spanking. I believe that corporal punishment (in a limited sense) is useful in early childhood development because of obvious communication barriers, i.e. a swat on the hand or rear end if the child repeatedly does something their parents tell them not to do. But I believe this is useful for only a short period of time. My youngest is almost five now and there is no form of corporal punishment used as we talk to him now and he fully understands. If he disobeys we take away privileges. This girl was 16 and I believe their is zero purpose for corporal punishment at that age nor is there any justification for using a belt on a child of any age, even once.
Re: COPS INVESTIGATE JUDGE FOR SHOCKING VIDEO
[ New ]11-07-2011 09:22 PM
The trick to the punishment game is that actions have consequences, that resemble what real life dishes out. When my daughter did not clean her toys, I would pick them up, without fanfare and put them away for her, in the attic. Do not like what is on the dinner table? Give the plate of food to Fifi the dog and dismiss her from the table. Never say I really mean it this time, meanit the first time, and be done with it. None of this is original to me, learned it from the Klein-Fay people, but my kid is the best, non perfect gal around.
billypat wrote:
First before I continue I want to say that what this man did was disgusting. With that said I have a few problems with this.
First, why did the daughter put the video camera on for this particular beating? She said something like I knew something was going to go on so she put the tape in and hit record. Had this been an on going issue between them? Did she disobeyed her parents, knowing that she was going to be in trouble for doing whatever she was doing on the computer? Had the dad found out previously and grounded her or punished her before this for doing whatever on the computer? It just seems really weird that she chose this particular time to hit the record button.
I have a 15 yr old son who can push my buttons in a heart beat. Do I beat him, only 1 time I hit him with a wooden spoon when he was like 5. That was it. I felt like the worst monster in the world for putting a welt on his bottom. Now he is taller than I am and when we go at it he has absolutely no fear of me or the ramifications of his actions. If he does something wrong I threaten to take away his phone, his computer, his sports etc and he laughs at me. My only recourse is to not speak to him, and that drives him crazy. My point, maybe this girl was told over and over and over again not to do something on the computer and she just didn't listen. We don't know what she was downloading or watching that her parents didn't like. They do not tell this part of the story. For all we know she was watching porn.
As for the Mother. When she took the belt from the dad and he left the room searching for another belt, in my opinion it looked as if the Mother was trying to get it done and be over it. She hit her the one time, and when the Dad came back she told him that she took care of it. I think she was hoping that it would be done. I am not saying that she didn't have a responsibility to stop the Dad, I just think she did what she thought she could to alleviate more hitting. With the Dad being so out of control, I think (again in my opinion) that she was taking on some of the anger emotion to get the Dad to stop. Kind of a tag team thing and when he left, she tried to get it over and done with before he returned.
Re: COPS INVESTIGATE JUDGE FOR SHOCKING VIDEO
[ New ]11-08-2011 01:24 AM
Yey! Sensible answers to real life. I did not believe in stricking a child, either. Did slap child's hand when he tried to touch space heater, he was less than a year old but walking at nine months.
When could talk, reason and time out's, loss of priveliges.
When could talk, reason and time out's, loss of priveliges.
oldmickey wrote:
The trick to the punishment game is that actions have consequences, that resemble what real life dishes out. When my daughter did not clean her toys, I would pick them up, without fanfare and put them away for her, in the attic. Do not like what is on the dinner table? Give the plate of food to Fifi the dog and dismiss her from the table. Never say I really mean it this time, meanit the first time, and be done with it. None of this is original to me, learned it from the Klein-Fay people, but my kid is the best, non perfect gal around.
billypat wrote:
First before I continue I want to say that what this man did was disgusting. With that said I have a few problems with this.
First, why did the daughter put the video camera on for this particular beating? She said something like I knew something was going to go on so she put the tape in and hit record. Had this been an on going issue between them? Did she disobeyed her parents, knowing that she was going to be in trouble for doing whatever she was doing on the computer? Had the dad found out previously and grounded her or punished her before this for doing whatever on the computer? It just seems really weird that she chose this particular time to hit the record button.
I have a 15 yr old son who can push my buttons in a heart beat. Do I beat him, only 1 time I hit him with a wooden spoon when he was like 5. That was it. I felt like the worst monster in the world for putting a welt on his bottom. Now he is taller than I am and when we go at it he has absolutely no fear of me or the ramifications of his actions. If he does something wrong I threaten to take away his phone, his computer, his sports etc and he laughs at me. My only recourse is to not speak to him, and that drives him crazy. My point, maybe this girl was told over and over and over again not to do something on the computer and she just didn't listen. We don't know what she was downloading or watching that her parents didn't like. They do not tell this part of the story. For all we know she was watching porn.
As for the Mother. When she took the belt from the dad and he left the room searching for another belt, in my opinion it looked as if the Mother was trying to get it done and be over it. She hit her the one time, and when the Dad came back she told him that she took care of it. I think she was hoping that it would be done. I am not saying that she didn't have a responsibility to stop the Dad, I just think she did what she thought she could to alleviate more hitting. With the Dad being so out of control, I think (again in my opinion) that she was taking on some of the anger emotion to get the Dad to stop. Kind of a tag team thing and when he left, she tried to get it over and done with before he returned.
Re: COPS INVESTIGATE JUDGE FOR SHOCKING VIDEO
[ New ]11-08-2011 10:33 AM
That is the way things should be handled in a perfect world. Again, we do not know the 100% story of this. They do not state what she was doing on the computer. They do not state if she was in trouble for it before and continued to do this. How do we know she wasn't talking to some pervert and got caught. Maybe she was planning on meeting someone she met on the web and got caught. The kids today do all sort of crazy **bleep** on the internet as we all know.
The father freaking out like he did was bizarre and scary. But, once again, we do not know the full circumstances. How many times did she get caught and punished by taking away computer, phone, friends any outside activities and this father just freaked out. Do we know if he beat her before this? The part that makes me think is that she taped this particular episode. WHY? Why this one time did she set the video camera and push record.
Everyone keeps saying the punishment should fit the crime. A child touches a hot stove, you smack his hand and tell him NO. A child goes into the street, you pat his bottom and tell him NO. A 15 yr old girl gets caught smoking and drinking, she gets grounded for a month. What was this girl downloading on the computer that would cause this turmoil? Is there any abuse recorded from before or after this particular situation? Did any teachers or adults ever see marks on her that should not have been?
I just think there is a lot more to this story than we are getting from the news. We are seeing him loose 100% control on the tape. He was ballistic and uncontrollable and wanted to teach her a lesson. Again, I just think there is a little more to this than we are hearing. Just my opinion.
The father freaking out like he did was bizarre and scary. But, once again, we do not know the full circumstances. How many times did she get caught and punished by taking away computer, phone, friends any outside activities and this father just freaked out. Do we know if he beat her before this? The part that makes me think is that she taped this particular episode. WHY? Why this one time did she set the video camera and push record.
Everyone keeps saying the punishment should fit the crime. A child touches a hot stove, you smack his hand and tell him NO. A child goes into the street, you pat his bottom and tell him NO. A 15 yr old girl gets caught smoking and drinking, she gets grounded for a month. What was this girl downloading on the computer that would cause this turmoil? Is there any abuse recorded from before or after this particular situation? Did any teachers or adults ever see marks on her that should not have been?
I just think there is a lot more to this story than we are getting from the news. We are seeing him loose 100% control on the tape. He was ballistic and uncontrollable and wanted to teach her a lesson. Again, I just think there is a little more to this than we are hearing. Just my opinion.
Re: COPS INVESTIGATE JUDGE FOR SHOCKING VIDEO
[ New ]11-08-2011 04:55 PM
is this low life man whom is supposed to be considered a human being??He is suppose to have feelings for his off spring, at that a daughter, and look how he brutally punished her, just UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR ,,,,,,,,THEM BY ALL STANDARDS ,,," HE SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM THE BENCH FOR LIFE",,,,He makes my skin crawl and my stomach turn and feel nauseated from his actions..There are no nice words to say about him...
Re: COPS INVESTIGATE JUDGE FOR SHOCKING VIDEO
[ New ]11-08-2011 05:17 PM
What is really screwed up .. if you switched the daughter with the mother and watched the husband beat his wife with a belt - I bet everyone would be screaming "ABUSE"! But because it is his minor child, it is due punishment for something she did wrong apparently! Like being a teenage child is so much more acceptable to punish with a belt than a grown women spouse! Where do the lines blur???
Strange!
Strange!
"Therefore you have no excuse, everyone of you who passes judgment, for in that which you judge another, you condemn yourself; for you who judge practice the same things. " - Romans 2:1
Re: COPS INVESTIGATE JUDGE FOR SHOCKING VIDEO
[ New ]11-09-2011 07:51 AM
Good point!
NoLifeAtAll wrote:
What is really screwed up .. if you switched the daughter with the mother and watched the husband beat his wife with a belt - I bet everyone would be screaming "ABUSE"! But because it is his minor child, it is due punishment for something she did wrong apparently! Like being a teenage child is so much more acceptable to punish with a belt than a grown women spouse! Where do the lines blur???
Strange!
Re: COPS INVESTIGATE JUDGE FOR SHOCKING VIDEO
[ New ]11-09-2011 10:45 AM
I retract anything I previously said. I watched it over again and counted how many times she was hit.
In a 7:35 minute video, the Dad hit her 17x's. The Mother hit her 1x.
The Mother also says what she was doing on the computer which I missed the first few times I watched. The Mother mentions the website KAZAA. If your noth familiar with it, it is a website back in the day which allowed you to download movies, music, software etc for free. It was about the same time Napster started to get into trouble. So technically, she was downloading stuff that was hacked from other peoples computers, which the Dad said it was stealing. If that is the case, then he better start a search for all the rest of the people who have used this sight. I am one of them! I downloaded Quickbooks from this sight back in 2003.
In a 7:35 minute video, the Dad hit her 17x's. The Mother hit her 1x.
The Mother also says what she was doing on the computer which I missed the first few times I watched. The Mother mentions the website KAZAA. If your noth familiar with it, it is a website back in the day which allowed you to download movies, music, software etc for free. It was about the same time Napster started to get into trouble. So technically, she was downloading stuff that was hacked from other peoples computers, which the Dad said it was stealing. If that is the case, then he better start a search for all the rest of the people who have used this sight. I am one of them! I downloaded Quickbooks from this sight back in 2003.
Re: COPS INVESTIGATE JUDGE FOR SHOCKING VIDEO
[ New ]11-09-2011 11:54 AM - last edited on 11-09-2011 12:04 PM
Two cents from a parent that used a belt on his sons and regrets it to this day....even though I am very close to my kids and they are well adjusted adults and spouses and parents. I believe in corporal punishment under certain circumstances. It must be controlled and no "weapons" should be used and (the most important part) it must be followed up with love and understand and compassion being communicated to the child. I remember spanking my kids and how lousy I felt afterward even though I NEVER harmed my kids. I was never out of control, I never swore at my kids....but corporal punishment is needed on occassion. Consistent discipline with consistent love with consistent direction......see the pattern there....be CONSISTENT....
If I had it all to do over again....I would NEVER EVER use a belt....just my open hand on the butt and never more than 2 or 3 swats.
If I had it all to do over again....I would NEVER EVER use a belt....just my open hand on the butt and never more than 2 or 3 swats.
Re: COPS INVESTIGATE JUDGE FOR SHOCKING VIDEO
[ New ]11-09-2011 02:38 PM
They would probably scream domestic violence, but I agree with you. In our society, we seem to have different standards for violence in relation to age and gender.
NoLifeAtAll wrote:
What is really screwed up .. if you switched the daughter with the mother and watched the husband beat his wife with a belt - I bet everyone would be screaming "ABUSE"! But because it is his minor child, it is due punishment for something she did wrong apparently! Like being a teenage child is so much more acceptable to punish with a belt than a grown women spouse! Where do the lines blur???
Strange!
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[ New ]11-23-2011 08:57 AM
Texas High Court Suspends Judge In Beating Video
The Texas Supreme Court suspended a judge Tuesday whose beating of his then-teenage daughter in 2004 was viewed millions of times on the Internet.
Aransas County court-at-law Judge William Adams was suspended immediately with pay pending the outcome of the inquiry started earlier this month by the State Commission on Judicial Conduct, according to an order signed Tuesday by the clerk of the state's highest court.
William Adams has not sat on the bench since the video went viral. It has been viewed more than 6 million times on YouTube.
As Aransas County's top judge, William Adams has dealt with at least 349 family law cases in the past year alone, nearly 50 of which involved state caseworkers seeking to determine whether parents were fit to raise their children. A visiting judge has been handling his caseload.
After reviewing the investigation conducted by local police, the Aransas County district attorney said too much time had passed to bring charges against William Adams.
So, he can't be brought up on charges but can lose his job. I wonder if some lawyer will get the daughter to file in civil court next.
There are many kinds of abuse. What this guy did was pretty mean & I feel sorry for the young lady. I hope she did not post this video for revenge on her father but to prevent the same from happening to her little sister.
The Texas Supreme Court suspended a judge Tuesday whose beating of his then-teenage daughter in 2004 was viewed millions of times on the Internet.
Aransas County court-at-law Judge William Adams was suspended immediately with pay pending the outcome of the inquiry started earlier this month by the State Commission on Judicial Conduct, according to an order signed Tuesday by the clerk of the state's highest court.
William Adams has not sat on the bench since the video went viral. It has been viewed more than 6 million times on YouTube.
As Aransas County's top judge, William Adams has dealt with at least 349 family law cases in the past year alone, nearly 50 of which involved state caseworkers seeking to determine whether parents were fit to raise their children. A visiting judge has been handling his caseload.
After reviewing the investigation conducted by local police, the Aransas County district attorney said too much time had passed to bring charges against William Adams.
So, he can't be brought up on charges but can lose his job. I wonder if some lawyer will get the daughter to file in civil court next.
There are many kinds of abuse. What this guy did was pretty mean & I feel sorry for the young lady. I hope she did not post this video for revenge on her father but to prevent the same from happening to her little sister.
And liberty and justice for all,
FOR THE BORN AND THE UNBORN.
FOR THE BORN AND THE UNBORN.
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[ New ]11-25-2011 12:52 PM
As a teenaged girl from ages 12-16 I was occasionally ( 2-3 times every 6 mo to 1 year) beaten with a belt by my father for disobedience, with a similar scenario/mood of rage, humiliation and recrimination. The experience left me permanently scarred emotionally and has hindered my ability to find and maintain healthy relationships ever since. After 16 he switched to beating me down to the ground with his hands then kicking me in the stomach once I was down, for drinking once and for not showing up to dinner once when I was 20 years old.
In my case my belt-whipping-worthy offense was sneaking cigarettes, a habit my parents practiced daily. Rather than attempt to set a better example, talk to me about the problem or use other methods of punishment, the idea was to "beat me into submission" and thereby negate any future disobedience. However, it was not an effective deterrent because it was so traumatic and I usually never got caught. The violence of the beatings escalated each time.
Unfortunately, the fact that I was forced to strip down to undies and kneel in submission for my beatings in my bedroom, sometimes after just having been wakened early am or late night, made me feel unsafe even in my own home or bed. I wanted more than anything to escape, but when I threatened to run away my parents told me no one would be sympathetic to a disobedient girl and I'd have to be a **bleep** on the street. This would, according to them, also be my fate if I continued to disobey them, when they kicked me out. I didn't understand at the time that suburban kids like me could possibly get help by reporting abuse. I was told the abuse was all my fault, that I made my parents feel terrible for having to do it. I felt so ashamed I hid it from almost everyone until many years later. Many times this happened in the summer when I had more time away from school, where I did well and enjoyed it as my safe place. One time I counted over 50 welts on my backside, and my legs and arms from when I turned around to protect myself as the beating escalated. My father got even more enraged or condescending when I showed terror during or sadness after these assaults.
One hot summer day as I hid, reading in a corner of the swim club wearing long pants and sleeves to cover my welts, a teen acquaintance came to ask me why I wasn't swimming, and didn't believe my lie about my period(again?) I broke down and told her what happened and she encouraged me to report the abuse, that my dad should be arrested for doing that to me. But I still felt so humiliated, afraid the police would do nothing and the abuse would escalate, or that the police would arrest my father and I would then be blamed for destroying the whole family, I did nothing.
I just continued to endure, and graduated early from high school, left home 3 months before I turned 18 & moved in with a boyfriend who emotionally and later, physically abused me. I self medicated with alcohol to excess for many years, but after therapy in my 20's while I put myself through college I learned that the abuse was my parents' fault, not mine. I was able to stop the binge drinking. I also have not been a smoker for most of my adult life.
My mother now claims she was not aware of the beatings, even though she asked him to punish me and I am sure my screams could be heard even outside the house. My father said, years later he was just "spanking" and I made up that he was beating me to make him look bad to his new wife. How did either miss the welts? My father was always proud that he was so controlled in his beatings that he never left any marks on my face since that would be an unfair disadvantage for a girl. I have not seen him for about 20 years and don't even know if he is still alive because he cut off contact with me for bringing up the abuse.
This father and mother did not realize the terrible burden of shame, pain and lonliness they put on me throughout my life. The positive is that I have raised two children free from corporal punishment who are good students and citizens. I also am a teacher and volunteer for education in the community. However, I still struggle with trust and intimacy issues in relationships with adults.
I am glad to see that so many people are seeing this behavior for what it is and speaking out against it. I only wish I had been braver to seek help for myself, if I had only known I deserved it. I hope people will realize that there are other ways to discipline your children that don't permanently endanger their well being and your future relationship.
In my case my belt-whipping-worthy offense was sneaking cigarettes, a habit my parents practiced daily. Rather than attempt to set a better example, talk to me about the problem or use other methods of punishment, the idea was to "beat me into submission" and thereby negate any future disobedience. However, it was not an effective deterrent because it was so traumatic and I usually never got caught. The violence of the beatings escalated each time.
Unfortunately, the fact that I was forced to strip down to undies and kneel in submission for my beatings in my bedroom, sometimes after just having been wakened early am or late night, made me feel unsafe even in my own home or bed. I wanted more than anything to escape, but when I threatened to run away my parents told me no one would be sympathetic to a disobedient girl and I'd have to be a **bleep** on the street. This would, according to them, also be my fate if I continued to disobey them, when they kicked me out. I didn't understand at the time that suburban kids like me could possibly get help by reporting abuse. I was told the abuse was all my fault, that I made my parents feel terrible for having to do it. I felt so ashamed I hid it from almost everyone until many years later. Many times this happened in the summer when I had more time away from school, where I did well and enjoyed it as my safe place. One time I counted over 50 welts on my backside, and my legs and arms from when I turned around to protect myself as the beating escalated. My father got even more enraged or condescending when I showed terror during or sadness after these assaults.
One hot summer day as I hid, reading in a corner of the swim club wearing long pants and sleeves to cover my welts, a teen acquaintance came to ask me why I wasn't swimming, and didn't believe my lie about my period(again?) I broke down and told her what happened and she encouraged me to report the abuse, that my dad should be arrested for doing that to me. But I still felt so humiliated, afraid the police would do nothing and the abuse would escalate, or that the police would arrest my father and I would then be blamed for destroying the whole family, I did nothing.
I just continued to endure, and graduated early from high school, left home 3 months before I turned 18 & moved in with a boyfriend who emotionally and later, physically abused me. I self medicated with alcohol to excess for many years, but after therapy in my 20's while I put myself through college I learned that the abuse was my parents' fault, not mine. I was able to stop the binge drinking. I also have not been a smoker for most of my adult life.
My mother now claims she was not aware of the beatings, even though she asked him to punish me and I am sure my screams could be heard even outside the house. My father said, years later he was just "spanking" and I made up that he was beating me to make him look bad to his new wife. How did either miss the welts? My father was always proud that he was so controlled in his beatings that he never left any marks on my face since that would be an unfair disadvantage for a girl. I have not seen him for about 20 years and don't even know if he is still alive because he cut off contact with me for bringing up the abuse.
This father and mother did not realize the terrible burden of shame, pain and lonliness they put on me throughout my life. The positive is that I have raised two children free from corporal punishment who are good students and citizens. I also am a teacher and volunteer for education in the community. However, I still struggle with trust and intimacy issues in relationships with adults.
I am glad to see that so many people are seeing this behavior for what it is and speaking out against it. I only wish I had been braver to seek help for myself, if I had only known I deserved it. I hope people will realize that there are other ways to discipline your children that don't permanently endanger their well being and your future relationship.
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