Israel To Build Up Settler Homes After UNESCO
11-04-2011 12:51 PM
"Israel says it will speed up Jewish settlement construction in the West Bank and East Jerusalem - and temporarily freeze the transfer of funds to the Palestinian Authority.
The BBC's Kevin Connolly in Jerusalem says the announcement will be seen as a punishment for the Palestinians and a warning to countries that backed their Unesco bid that Israel will react strongly if a similar application for Palestinian membership of the UN itself should prove successful.
Peace talks between the Palestinians and Israel broke down more than a year ago. The Palestinians are demanding an end to settlement building.
Almost 500,000 Jews live in settlements on occupied territory. The settlements are illegal under international law, although Israel disputes this."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-15548585
Boomer Sooner
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Re: Israel To Build Up Settler Homes After UNESCO
11-04-2011 12:55 PM
That is "disputed" land and according to international law is not occupied. The Palestinians can't have it both ways.
Gutsky wrote:
"Israel says it will speed up Jewish settlement construction in the West Bank and East Jerusalem - and temporarily freeze the transfer of funds to the Palestinian Authority.
The BBC's Kevin Connolly in Jerusalem says the announcement will be seen as a punishment for the Palestinians and a warning to countries that backed their Unesco bid that Israel will react strongly if a similar application for Palestinian membership of the UN itself should prove successful.
Peace talks between the Palestinians and Israel broke down more than a year ago. The Palestinians are demanding an end to settlement building.
Almost 500,000 Jews live in settlements on occupied territory. The settlements are illegal under international law, although Israel disputes this."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-15548585
Boomer Sooner
Re: Israel To Build Up Settler Homes After UNESCO
11-04-2011 01:05 PM
Israeli settlements condemned by Western powers
LINK
Earlier, the EU said it was "deeply concerned" by the announcement. The UK, France and Germany said it would hinder efforts for peace.
Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu said it was a "basic right of our people".
'Unjustifiable'
Mr Carney told a White House briefing that Israel's decision did not help bring peace talks any nearer.
"Unilateral actions work against efforts to resume direct negotiations, and they do not advance the goal of a reasonable and necessary agreement between the two parties," Mr Carney said.
"That is the only way to achieve the two-state solution that both sides have as their goal."
Israel doesn't want peace all it wants is MORE!
LINK
The US has joined criticism of Israel's decision to accelerate settlement building in the West Bank and East Jerusalem after Palestinians joined UN cultural agency, Unesco.
White House spokesman Jay Carney said the US was "deeply disappointed".Earlier, the EU said it was "deeply concerned" by the announcement. The UK, France and Germany said it would hinder efforts for peace.
Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu said it was a "basic right of our people".
'Unjustifiable'
Mr Carney told a White House briefing that Israel's decision did not help bring peace talks any nearer.
"Unilateral actions work against efforts to resume direct negotiations, and they do not advance the goal of a reasonable and necessary agreement between the two parties," Mr Carney said.
"That is the only way to achieve the two-state solution that both sides have as their goal."
Israel doesn't want peace all it wants is MORE!
Re: Israel To Build Up Settler Homes After UNESCO
11-04-2011 01:24 PM
BBOY wrote:
Israeli settlements condemned by Western powers
LINK
The US has joined criticism of Israel's decision to accelerate settlement building in the West Bank and East Jerusalem after Palestinians joined UN cultural agency, Unesco.White House spokesman Jay Carney said the US was "deeply disappointed".
Earlier, the EU said it was "deeply concerned" by the announcement. The UK, France and Germany said it would hinder efforts for peace.
Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu said it was a "basic right of our people".
'Unjustifiable'
Mr Carney told a White House briefing that Israel's decision did not help bring peace talks any nearer.
"Unilateral actions work against efforts to resume direct negotiations, and they do not advance the goal of a reasonable and necessary agreement between the two parties," Mr Carney said.
"That is the only way to achieve the two-state solution that both sides have as their goal."
Israel doesn't want peace all it wants is MORE!
Does Israel call for the death of all Palestinians? Yes or no will do.
Re: Israel To Build Up Settler Homes After UNESCO
11-04-2011 01:32 PM
It acts like the answer is yes.
217treat wrote:
BBOY wrote:
Israeli settlements condemned by Western powers
LINK
The US has joined criticism of Israel's decision to accelerate settlement building in the West Bank and East Jerusalem after Palestinians joined UN cultural agency, Unesco.White House spokesman Jay Carney said the US was "deeply disappointed".
Earlier, the EU said it was "deeply concerned" by the announcement. The UK, France and Germany said it would hinder efforts for peace.
Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu said it was a "basic right of our people".
'Unjustifiable'
Mr Carney told a White House briefing that Israel's decision did not help bring peace talks any nearer.
"Unilateral actions work against efforts to resume direct negotiations, and they do not advance the goal of a reasonable and necessary agreement between the two parties," Mr Carney said.
"That is the only way to achieve the two-state solution that both sides have as their goal."
Israel doesn't want peace all it wants is MORE!
Does Israel call for the death of all Palestinians? Yes or no will do.
Re: Israel To Build Up Settler Homes After UNESCO
11-04-2011 01:33 PM
I believe there are some surviving Indians. We are looking at a much more efficient killing machine.
leecomb wrote:
Well, it's obvious the answer is NO. But, the white man didn't say that about the American Indian either. We'll see.....
Re: Israel To Build Up Settler Homes After UNESCO
11-04-2011 01:43 PM
No, it's not.
217treat wrote:
That is "disputed" land and according to international law is not occupied. The Palestinians can't have it both ways.
Gutsky wrote:
"Israel says it will speed up Jewish settlement construction in the West Bank and East Jerusalem - and temporarily freeze the transfer of funds to the Palestinian Authority.
The BBC's Kevin Connolly in Jerusalem says the announcement will be seen as a punishment for the Palestinians and a warning to countries that backed their Unesco bid that Israel will react strongly if a similar application for Palestinian membership of the UN itself should prove successful.
Peace talks between the Palestinians and Israel broke down more than a year ago. The Palestinians are demanding an end to settlement building.
Almost 500,000 Jews live in settlements on occupied territory. The settlements are illegal under international law, although Israel disputes this."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-15548585
Boomer Sooner
"International law" is only by treaty and international agreement. There is no international treaty or agreement that says it's disputed. Everyone, including thre United States, but Israel acknowledges it as being illegally occupied.
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. - Voltaire
Re: Israel To Build Up Settler Homes After UNESCO
11-04-2011 02:36 PM
http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/MFAArchive/2000_2009/2003/2/DISPUTED%20TERRITORIES-%20Forgotten%20Facts%20About%20the%20We Read this. I like it.
malphilos wrote:
No, it's not.
"International law" is only by treaty and international agreement. There is no international treaty or agreement that says it's disputed. Everyone, including thre United States, but Israel acknowledges it as being illegally occupied.
Re: Israel To Build Up Settler Homes After UNESCO
11-04-2011 02:40 PM
http://www.jcpa.org/jl/vp470.htm Some more info on this matter.
" The international legal system does not outlaw occupation. Rather it uses international conventions and agreements to regulate such situations."
And everyone but Israel says it's an illegal occupation. There's your "international conventions and agreements".
In short the argument of this article is: "They stole it first!".
The irony is that in order for that to be true, the Palestinians must be the legitimate owners, and Israel's occupation is therefor illegal.
Neither of these blurbs supports your "disputed not occupied" complaint. It's not even a legal distinction.
Stealing is still a crime, even if you don't kill anyone. Not that the IDF hasn't killed anyone, mind you.
And the occupation is still illegal, as you now understand.
Re: Israel To Build Up Settler Homes After UNESCO
11-04-2011 03:11 PM
Yes, precisely as I said:
217treat wrote:
http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/MFAArchive/2000_2009/2003/2/DISPUTED%20TERRITORIES-%20Forgotten%20Facts%20About%20the%20We Read this. I like it.
malphilos wrote:
No, it's not.
"International law" is only by treaty and international agreement. There is no international treaty or agreement that says it's disputed. Everyone, including thre United States, but Israel acknowledges it as being illegally occupied.
" The international legal system does not outlaw occupation. Rather it uses international conventions and agreements to regulate such situations."
And everyone but Israel says it's an illegal occupation. There's your "international conventions and agreements".
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. - Voltaire
Re: Israel To Build Up Settler Homes After UNESCO
11-04-2011 03:14 PM
Considering the source the information is a little skewed don't you think?
217treat wrote:
http://www.jcpa.org/jl/vp470.htm Some more info on this matter.
Re: Israel To Build Up Settler Homes After UNESCO
11-04-2011 03:19 PM
That's an intesting bit of twisting. The claim that Jordan illegally occupied the territories pre-supposes that there was a legitimate owner who would be the Palestinians. The article doesn't say that bit though. It would kind of destroy the picture they're trying to paint.
217treat wrote:
http://www.jcpa.org/jl/vp470.htm Some more info on this matter.
In short the argument of this article is: "They stole it first!".
The irony is that in order for that to be true, the Palestinians must be the legitimate owners, and Israel's occupation is therefor illegal.
Neither of these blurbs supports your "disputed not occupied" complaint. It's not even a legal distinction.
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. - Voltaire
Re: Israel To Build Up Settler Homes After UNESCO
[ New ]11-04-2011 03:28 PM
How about a tough question? Are building these settlements killing anybody? You know, like the Palestinian rockets.
malphilos wrote:
That's an intesting bit of twisting. The claim that Jordan illegally occupied the territories pre-supposes that there was a legitimate owner who would be the Palestinians. The article doesn't say that bit though. It would kind of destroy the picture they're trying to paint.
217treat wrote:
http://www.jcpa.org/jl/vp470.htm Some more info on this matter.
In short the argument of this article is: "They stole it first!".
The irony is that in order for that to be true, the Palestinians must be the legitimate owners, and Israel's occupation is therefor illegal.
Neither of these blurbs supports your "disputed not occupied" complaint. It's not even a legal distinction.
Re: Israel To Build Up Settler Homes After UNESCO
[ New ]11-04-2011 03:31 PM
Would that be like your RT links or the great youtube?
BBOY wrote:
Considering the source the information is a little skewed don't you think?
217treat wrote:
http://www.jcpa.org/jl/vp470.htm Some more info on this matter.
Re: Israel To Build Up Settler Homes After UNESCO
[ New ]11-04-2011 03:36 PM
Fixed that for you.
217treat wrote:
How about
malphilos wrote:
That's an intesting bit of twisting. The claim that Jordan illegally occupied the territories pre-supposes that there was a legitimate owner who would be the Palestinians. The article doesn't say that bit though. It would kind of destroy the picture they're trying to paint.
217treat wrote:
http://www.jcpa.org/jl/vp470.htm Some more info on this matter.
In short the argument of this article is: "They stole it first!".
The irony is that in order for that to be true, the Palestinians must be the legitimate owners, and Israel's occupation is therefor illegal.
Neither of these blurbs supports your "disputed not occupied" complaint. It's not even a legal distinction.
a tough questionwe talk about something else? Are building these settlements killing anybody? You know, like the Palestinian rockets.
Stealing is still a crime, even if you don't kill anyone. Not that the IDF hasn't killed anyone, mind you.
And the occupation is still illegal, as you now understand.
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. - Voltaire
Re: Israel To Build Up Settler Homes After UNESCO
[ New ]11-04-2011 03:44 PM
What's wrong with youtube? You watch the news on TV don't you? There's nothing like hearing the lies straight from mouth that spewed them.
217treat wrote:
Would that be like your RT links or the great youtube?
BBOY wrote:
Considering the source the information is a little skewed don't you think?
217treat wrote:
http://www.jcpa.org/jl/vp470.htm Some more info on this matter.
Re: Israel To Build Up Settler Homes After UNESCO
[ New ]11-04-2011 03:59 PM
Not in Israel,and they are the ones that count.
malphilos wrote:
Fixed that for you.
217treat wrote:
How about
malphilos wrote:
That's an intesting bit of twisting. The claim that Jordan illegally occupied the territories pre-supposes that there was a legitimate owner who would be the Palestinians. The article doesn't say that bit though. It would kind of destroy the picture they're trying to paint.
217treat wrote:
http://www.jcpa.org/jl/vp470.htm Some more info on this matter.
In short the argument of this article is: "They stole it first!".
The irony is that in order for that to be true, the Palestinians must be the legitimate owners, and Israel's occupation is therefor illegal.
Neither of these blurbs supports your "disputed not occupied" complaint. It's not even a legal distinction.
a tough questionwe talk about something else? Are building these settlements killing anybody? You know, like the Palestinian rockets.
Stealing is still a crime, even if you don't kill anyone. Not that the IDF hasn't killed anyone, mind you.
And the occupation is still illegal, as you now understand.
Re: Israel To Build Up Settler Homes After UNESCO
[ New ]11-04-2011 05:27 PM
Israel realizes that's not true, they want to live in the community of nations. That's why they strive so hard to portray the occupation as something other than what it is.
217treat wrote:
Not in Israel,and they are the ones that count.
malphilos wrote:
Fixed that for you.
217treat wrote:
How about
malphilos wrote:
That's an intesting bit of twisting. The claim that Jordan illegally occupied the territories pre-supposes that there was a legitimate owner who would be the Palestinians. The article doesn't say that bit though. It would kind of destroy the picture they're trying to paint.
217treat wrote:
http://www.jcpa.org/jl/vp470.htm Some more info on this matter.
In short the argument of this article is: "They stole it first!".
The irony is that in order for that to be true, the Palestinians must be the legitimate owners, and Israel's occupation is therefor illegal.
Neither of these blurbs supports your "disputed not occupied" complaint. It's not even a legal distinction.
a tough questionwe talk about something else? Are building these settlements killing anybody? You know, like the Palestinian rockets.
Stealing is still a crime, even if you don't kill anyone. Not that the IDF hasn't killed anyone, mind you.
And the occupation is still illegal, as you now understand.
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. - Voltaire
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